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What Are The 5 Most Important Strategic Targets In Ireland?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    The Iodine tablet factory..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    doulikeit wrote: »
    So what's the plan boss
    Use drunk-driving kilgarvan OAPs to block the roads
    Wait? what thread am I on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    doulikeit wrote: »
    oh i like u ur a lil .marine killing people and blowing things up if an invasion force seen all these posts they would be so scared they would run for their lives
    go chairbourne hu ahhh

    1. You have a full keyboard and a mostly unlimited character count... use it so my eyes don't get annoyed.

    2. That's what would happen, a lot of people would engage the invaders in guerilla warfare. You don't win wars anymore like in WW2 where you beat an enemy in open conflict and then call a truce, you win it by demoralising the enemy so much that their people demand they quit. The Americans would have won Vietnam if it wasn't for the public opinion of the war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭doulikeit


    crockholm wrote: »
    Use drunk-driving kilgarvan OAPs to block the roads
    Wait? what thread am I on?
    that'll do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Surely though the Brits would come down from their Army Bases in the North to help us out should we come under attack.

    Although if you are talking strategic targets in Ireland, surely we're including ones on both sides of the border.

    <runs and hides after opening tin of worms>


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Personally I'm going with the "Temple Bar" option as most liky to succeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Surely though the Brits would come down from their Army Bases in the North to help us out should we come under attack.

    Although if you are talking strategic targets in Ireland, surely we're including ones on both sides of the border.

    <runs and hides after opening tin of worms>

    I think it would be either them invading us, or the Yanks invading as a prelude to invading Europe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    doulikeit wrote: »
    oh i like u ur a lil .marine killing people and blowing things up if an invasion force seen all these posts they would be so scared they would run for their lives
    go chairbourne hu ahhh

    He's right though. Sporadic guerilla warfare is all we could offer, and thats how ya do it.

    Where is your suggestion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Gmol


    Lady of Lourdes hospital


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭doulikeit



    He's right though. Sporadic guerilla warfare is all we could offer, and thats how ya do it.

    Where is your suggestion?

    Don't worry bud we are a warrior nation we were born to fight

    oh and a big tube of lube


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    doulikeit wrote: »
    Don't worry bud we are a warrior nation we were born to fight

    oh and a big tube of lube

    Thanks for the education.

    Keep the lube, real men go in dry :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭Fox_In_Socks


    Thanks for the education.

    Keep the lube, real men go in dry :pac:

    They go in dry pacmen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    They go in dry pacmen?

    Yeah don't they? well that's what yo daddy said!

    Heeeeeyyyyoooooo :pac::P:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    newmug wrote: »
    If a group of Irish farmers and construction workers can hold off the British Army for 30 years and get them out, then our trained, professional soldiers would have an excellent chance.

    When & where was this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    yeppydeppy wrote: »
    Can't we do this anyway?

    do the Irish militray have any planes big enough to carry bombs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    What Are The 5 Most Important Strategic Targets In Ireland?

    1) The Pub.

    2) The Club.

    3) The Takeaway.

    4) The Taxi Rank.

    5) The Leaba.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    yeppydeppy wrote: »
    Can't we do this anyway?

    We could get des kelly to do it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,069 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    1/ Garda HQ in the Pheonix park.
    2/ Michael D Higgins pad in the park.
    3/ RTE Studios Donnybrook.
    4/ Curragh Army barracks.
    5/ Dublin Airport.

    But like why would we be targets, and who would be doing the attacking :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭bluecode


    Cork actually as mentioned. You need somewhere for the invasion fleet and Shannon airport so you land your planes. After that it's the command and control sites probably in Dublin and the Curragh. Once you blind the army they can't respond. Then knock out any radar installations and mobile phone masts.

    No point in attacking the barracks or Baldonnel aerodrome. The Air Corps has very little military capability and if you attack on a weekend most of the army will be at home.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,589 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    1. Shannon Airport. It's the only airport we have which is capable of landing large transport Aircraft

    an Antanov 124 needs 900m to land.
    and that can be on grass / hard packed snow / frozen marshes
    Phoenix Park, probably even Leopardstown Race Course

    for a C-17 it's 1,064m (27.4 m wide, and that includes turning)


    at the worst they'd have to chemically prepare a grass strip by spraying it with stuff to stabilise the ground.



    I can remember when the talk was about the land mines embedded under the Naas road so we could prevent it being used as a runway and make ourselves less attractive.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Ryu Hayabusa


    RAF Aldergrove
    Dublin Airport
    Shannon Airport
    Curragh
    Foynes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    mconigol wrote: »

    How did they lay them so straight?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭gallag


    I can not imagine a situation where ireland would be under attack and the UK not get involved, I would imagine we neighbours could protect our islands quite well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Where Tipperary leads, Ireland follows :cool:

    Tipp is the key to Ireland, always was, always will be

    First shots in War of Independance & seat of power for Brian Boru for just two examples


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Where Tipperary leads, Ireland follows :cool:

    Tipp is the key to Ireland, always was, always will be

    First shots in War of Independance & seat of power for Brian Boru for just two examples

    true for ya
    i heard that during the cold war both the Russians and the Americans had the majority of their ICBM targeted on tipp, due to its strategic importance
    both side were afraid that if the other took tipp, the game would be up

    retired chief of staff chag mc luvandstuuf is quoted " if mary macs chipper in Kilsheelan falls, europe will be doomed "

    let the rest of the country fall , hold kilsheelan at ALL COSTS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Blay wrote: »
    Air assets wouldn't even be needed to seize Ireland bar a few transport planes. Ground attack fighters and choppers would be a waste of fuel because we have no armour for them to engage so it would come down to numbers on the ground and who knows the place better. The barracks around Dublin would move to hold the city, gather themselves and then if possible push out into Kildare, Meath, Wicklow if they could. The invaders would need to land thousands on the coast of Dublin and have them push inland to hold the edges of the city and stop an advance by Irish troops. Plus assuming the UK aren't the one's invading us..it would be in their interests to aid us.

    The DF aren't just going to fall over like chess pieces..I'm confident that at least some of them would have the balls to do something..if a load of sheep herders can harass US troops in Afghanistan for 12 years I think trained men could put up some sort of fight.

    You generally don't invade a country without enough troops to control the entirety.

    That said, any invasion large enough to hold the country would be many, many times larger than the defence forces.
    Also, any country capable of launching such an invasion would have air/long range support that we have no real way of countering.
    An invasion capable of holding the country would result in a automatic loss for the defence forces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    bluecode wrote: »

    No point in attacking the barracks or Baldonnel aerodrome. The Air Corps has very little military capability and if you attack on a weekend most of the army will be at home.

    And will call in sick on the monday :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I heard that the spire is actually a giant intercontinental nuke in disguise, so when we are invaded, we just launch the spire at their capital.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭An Coilean


    Kirby wrote: »
    I think people sometimes get confused as to the difference between an occupation and a massacre.

    We see the distinction in how we describe these conflicts. It's described as "War" when both sides adhere to rules. It's described as "Genocide" when they don't.

    The reason why we were successfull in ousting the british is because they didn't want to kill us, merely control us. The reason why small civilian forces have succeeded in defeating larger armies throughout history is not tactical....it's moral. The americans defeating the british, us defeating the british, you mentioned america's failure to stop Al Qaeda. Guerilla warfare only works when the oppressors refuse to kill the population.

    If an enemy force merely wanted to capture the country, then the things you suggest would have some merit. But if they wanted to kill us and just started wiping out civilians....than our tiny and paltry armed forces could do nothing to stop it. That's just the reality of it.


    Thats not necessarily true, have a look at the Polish Home Army during the German occupation of Poland during WWII. They were able to recuit and train new members and maintain tens of thousands of troops in the field and carry out opporations against the enemy effectivly.
    Even after five years of one of the most brutal occupations in history they were still capable of launching a rising in Warsaw that saw their forces take on and beat German Army and SS units in the city and hold out against sustained German attacks for months.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    if you parked a few burnt out buses across the m50 the country would grind to a halt for at least two days.

    after that, if I was a loyalist or a bane type villain, I would then scatter leaves on the dublin to belfast/galway and cork railway lines. Try to do it on the same day as the buses but in reality you could give it days before anyone knows what to do with the buses.

    You've basically shut down the country.

    I would then rip videos from RTE and put them all over youtube, that would throw them into a chaos and all their time will be spent trying to block them and then releasing embarrassing statements.

    During hte confusion I would infiltrate RTE HQ and release a fake report telling the state that foreigners are thinking of campaigning to the EU to prevent the sale of alcohol on st. patrick's day.

    I reckon by day 8 you're talking about the whole place flung back about 600 years. People would be eating muck and setting fire to the airport.


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