Restaurant bans children...

gingernut125 · 21-01-2013 12:32PM

hooradiation wrote: »

I didn't think that we'd have so many precious little flowers for whom the existence of children is simply intolerable.

How awful life must be for them.

It's not so bad, some restaurants don't let bratty kids in so that's one way to avoid them.

hooradiation · 21-01-2013 12:55PM

Allyall wrote: »

Or easy going, scream free, tidy... :pac:

Well, if they can't tolerate the existence of children, one can only imagine what other minor things cause them to wring their hands endlessly.

Junco Partner · 21-01-2013 12:55PM

I work in fast food, family friendly so most of the customer base is kids and parents.
Eight out of ten families who come in are great.
They come in, one parent sits down with the kids and the orders. They get their food, sit down. Kids get their complimentary toys, we blow up some balloons for them, they get dessert, we may even chat with them if the shops quite. Everyone has a great time and then they go.

And then on the other side there are the kids who run up and down the shop singing and screaming. While we try to carry trays full of coffees, teas, hot food. Things that the kid really doesn't want falling on their head but doesn't realise because they're too busy having the sun shine out of their arse to not watch where they're going and trip me up. There are the kids who throw chips at each other or other customers, There's the kids who paint the table with ketchup and the floor, the seat, the wall. There's the kid who demands money for the claw machine while his Dad orders the food and keeps demanding and gets louder as his demands aren't met. This makes an order of a kids nugget meal and a chicken burger take five minutes to take. Does the kid care that he's delaying me, the person in kitchen , the four customers behind waiting to order? No he doesn't care he just wants his teddy now. There's the kid who decides that the balloon ,which mammy should mind before he finishes his meal but doesn't, needs to be played with now and proceeds to run around with it hitting other customers. There's the kids with the radar ability to spot the one chair that squeaks as they walk in. They spend the next thirty minutes spinning blissfully while me, other staff and the other customers wince at the noise.

And it's a shame to see these brats because most of the time kids are great. My cousins baby daughter, my ex's nepew, Most of the kids who come in, they're great and wonderful. They behave well because they were taught how to behave in public. Most of the parents don't tolerate any bad behaviour from their kids, they teach them that all the things I mentioned aren't appropriate for social places like that. It's not the kid's fault that Mam and Dad have a "my child is perfect" and expect them to become functional people without being taught how to.

It's a shame that the majority of parents, who can actually do their job will be affected by this policy because the minority won't learn to carry out one of the basic parts of parenthood, teaching and preparing.

Frank Black · 21-01-2013 01:34PM

Reactions on both sides of the debate are hysterical at this stage.
You'd imagine from reading the posts that restaurants refusing entry to peope with children were rampant - they're not.
You'd also imagine that almost every child in a restaurant environment spends the whole time running around, knocking things off tables while screaming at an ear-piercing volume - they don't in general.

Feathers · 21-01-2013 02:44PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

The point you made was that most parents agree that restaurants can make their own decision on this. Restaurants can make their own decision on this- there's no law against it at present. This doesn't mean that parents like or are happy with the decision- they just have to put up with it unfortunately.

Yes it does — Most parents on here, have said that they're happy for a restaurant to have a no child policy: some said that they'd go there when they don't have children in tow as a break. The question is, are you happy for restaurants to set their own policy on this.

AGAIN, no-one is saying that all restaurants should be like this.

mr kr0nik wrote: »

Have they said how they define a child. Is it anyone under 18?

The particular restaurant in the OP is saying under 12s.

spookwoman · 21-01-2013 03:28PM

Grayson wrote: »

Trolls have children?

Yes they unfortunately do. This one was conceived with a thought and when He Who Was Anointed At The Holy Urinal spoke Golgothan was born.

B0jangles wrote: »

I just have to ask; are you a first-time father in his mid-to-late thirties?

Looking like someone who is not enjoying his role as father of a "little angel". Seems to not like a lot of things like having to pay up to register again with Medical Council.

Also Ireland is not the only place where some restaurants don't allow kids at certain times. The Grove in Auckland Children allowed before early dinner.

MrCreosote · 21-01-2013 07:31PM

Feathers wrote: »

Yes it does — Most parents on here, have said that they're happy for a restaurant to have a no child policy: some said that they'd go there when they don't have children in tow as a break. The question is, are you happy for restaurants to set their own policy on this.

Saying you agree that restaurants can have their own policy is not the same thing as saying you think that policy is fair.

Restaurants can set their own policy regardless of whether I like it or not. And I can feel insulted by them if they ban me.

gingernut125 · 21-01-2013 07:35PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

Saying you agree that restaurants can have their own policy is not the same thing as saying you think that policy is fair.

Restaurants can set their own policy regardless of whether I like it or not. And I can feel insulted by them if they ban me.

I think that policy is fair

awec · 21-01-2013 07:40PM

hooradiation wrote: »

I didn't think that we'd have so many precious little flowers for whom the existence of children is simply intolerable.

How awful life must be for them.

Who in this thread has said the existence of children is simply intolerable?

Why are you making things up?

Poor attempt at being controversial too. Must try harder.

MrCreosote · 21-01-2013 08:06PM

gingernut125 wrote: »

I think that policy is fair

It's never fair. Even someone who agrees with the policy couldn't argue that it's "fair". It's based purely on exclusion, that's why some people like it.

oldyouth · 21-01-2013 08:08PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

Saying you agree that restaurants can have their own policy is not the same thing as saying you think that policy is fair.

Restaurants can set their own policy regardless of whether I like it or not. And I can feel insulted by them if they ban me.

Of course YOU have the right to feel insulted. At least you have accepted that you are not the representative of a non-existent silent minority on this issue

MrCreosote · 21-01-2013 08:24PM

oldyouth wrote: »

Of course YOU have the right to feel insulted. At least you have accepted that you are not the representative of a non-existent silent minority on this issue

It's a silent majority. And they're still there, silently giving me the thumbs up.

Allyall · 21-01-2013 08:30PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

It's a silent majority. And they're still there, silently giving me the thumbs up.

Is this them? - http://www.julienlevesque.net/pertinence.jpg

oldyouth · 21-01-2013 08:36PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

It's a silent majority. And they're still there, silently giving me the thumbs up.

I just hit the Thumbs Up button for you there too

The Big Red Button · 21-01-2013 08:43PM

hooradiation wrote: »

I didn't think that we'd have so many precious little flowers for whom the existence of children is simply intolerable.

How awful life must be for them.

I don't have kids, but I tend to get on quite well with most children, and enjoy spending time with them.

However, going out for dinner in a nice restaurant is a treat for me, a time for me to enjoy a quiet relaxing conversation with other adults. Listening to kids screaming in the background really disrupts the experience. So I'll make sure to pick a restaurant which is marketed towards adults, not families.

Similarly, if I'm minding kids or if I'm out with young relations etc, I'll make sure to pick a child-friendly restaurant. (Always bearing in mind that, just because a restaurant is child-friendly, it is NOT an excuse to allow the kids to behave like animals!) This means that the adults will enjoy the meal, and so will the children (and there'll be age-appropriate meal options), and we won't affect other diners' enjoyment of their meals.

MrCreosote · 21-01-2013 08:44PM

Looks like I've pretty much convinced people here anyway!

All that remains is to head to Belluci's tomorrow with Iseult and cause a scene when we're refused...

Allyall · 21-01-2013 08:46PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

Looks like I've pretty much convinced people here anyway!

All that remains is to head to Belluci's tomorrow with Iseult and cause a scene when we're refused...

And achieve what exactly?

Sierra 117 · 21-01-2013 08:48PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

Looks like I've pretty much convinced people here anyway!

All that remains is to head to Belluci's tomorrow with Iseult and cause a scene when we're refused...

What will you do when you're escorted off the premises for acting like a child?

Sofiztikated · 21-01-2013 08:53PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

It's a silent majority. And they're still there, silently giving me the thumbs up.

There's a majority sticking something up at you all right, but it's not a thumb.

:P

I jest.

MrCreosote · 21-01-2013 08:56PM

Allyall wrote: »

And achieve what exactly?

Sierra 117 wrote: »

What will you do when you're escorted off the premises for acting like a child?

Funny isn't it. I'm sure these are the same questions Rosa Parks had to answer when she decided to take that seat on the bus.

Lumen · 21-01-2013 08:57PM

Kids can be a bit of a distraction, but I've had far more lunchtime meals ruined by **** talking business on nearby tables.

Really, I don't want to hear about you leveraging your synergies and re-envisioning your customer focus whilst I'm munching on my fois gras.

Sofiztikated · 21-01-2013 09:03PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

Funny isn't it. I'm sure these are the same questions Rosa Parks had to answer when she decided to take that seat on the bus.

You'd have a point if ALL restaurants were like that. Funny how we've pointed out a number of alternatives that you can go to, that you have ignored, time and time again.

MrCreosote · 21-01-2013 09:04PM

Lumen wrote: »

Kids can be a bit of a distraction, but I've had far more lunchtime meals ruined by **** talking business on nearby tables.

Really, I don't want to hear about you leveraging your synergies and re-envisioning your customer focus whilst I'm munching on my fois gras.

They should probably ban everyone in suits because of the risk of them saying "Going forward", and spoiling everyone's day.

Sofiztikated · 21-01-2013 09:04PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

They should probably ban everyone in suits because of the risk of them saying "Going forward", and spoiling everyone's day.

This also, I wouldn't have a problem with.

MrCreosote · 21-01-2013 09:07PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

You'd have a point if ALL restaurants were like that. Funny how we've pointed out a number of alternatives that you can go to, that you have ignored, time and time again.

And yet again- McDonald's, Supermac's etc etc are NOT alternatives.

Have you seen the horror on a child's face when you tell them the burger they're eating is probably half horsemeat?

Junk food is no solution.

Sofiztikated · 21-01-2013 09:16PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

And yet again- McDonald's, Supermac's etc etc are NOT alternatives.

Have you seen the horror on a child's face when you tell them the burger they're eating is probably half horsemeat?

Junk food is no solution.

http://www.menupages.ie/dublin/south_dublin/ballsbridge

As has been posted more than once, and not a McDonalds in sight.

Grayson · 21-01-2013 09:23PM

awec wrote: »

Who in this thread has said the existence of children is simply intolerable?

Why are you making things up?

Poor attempt at being controversial too. Must try harder.

MrCreasote is far better at trolling. He's spent at least 30 pages whinging about a restaurant in Dublin, when his location says Kerry.

Feathers · 21-01-2013 09:26PM

MrCreosote wrote: »

And yet again- McDonald's, Supermac's etc etc are NOT alternatives.

Posted around 10 pages ago:

Feathers wrote: »

Allyall wrote: »

Okay, okay..

Screw McDonalds.

What about Burger King, KFC, Supermacs, Abrakebabra, Domino's Pizza, Pizza Hut, Wimpy's, Four Star Pizza, Apache Pizza? And many many more.. :rolleyes:

& before someone mentions they're all fast-food, here's a list of over 120 restaurants in or around Dublin that have been marked as 'child-friendly' without a Burger King or Eddie Rockets in sight.

Grayson · 21-01-2013 09:32PM

Allyall wrote: »

Is this them? - http://www.julienlevesque.net/pertinence.jpg

No, this is the silent majority who want more kids.

MrCreosote · 21-01-2013 09:33PM

Grayson wrote: »

MrCreasote is far better at trolling.

There's a difference between trolling and arguing what you believe in.

Sofiztikated wrote: »

http://www.menupages.ie/dublin/south_dublin/ballsbridge

As has been posted more than once, and not a McDonalds in sight.

I want to eat in one restaurant-Belluci's- with my child between 12 and 2. Is it to make a point? Of course it is

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