At Least 25,000 Attend Anti-Abortion Vigil

LivelineDipso · 20-01-2013 06:48PM #1

Let's fact reality here, the turnout was fairly spectacular while 100 Pro-Choice folks held a counter demonstration shows that abortion in Ireland will remain a choice between Aer Lingus and Ryanair for decades to come.

I am Pro-Choice myself, and it seems so are most posters on here. However, the prediction from some here that a handful of holy rollers would show up demonstrates how people on the net really are not representative of the general population.

Ireland is foreign place in many ways.

triple-M · 20-01-2013 06:50PM

+1 for pro choice

lazygal · 20-01-2013 06:51PM

Abortions for everyone!!! Or just the women who no longer wish to be pregnant, like most normal countries.

meoklmrk91 · 20-01-2013 06:51PM

Pro-choice myself, Jesus did that many people really turn up? Any links OP?

GalwayGuy2 · 20-01-2013 06:53PM

That is depressing:(

LivelineDipso · 20-01-2013 06:54PM

Might be as high as 40,000 from some estimates.

triple-M · 20-01-2013 06:55PM

I reckon abortion would be positive for the country as less babies = less welfare payments for unwanted babies

seven_eleven · 20-01-2013 06:55PM

Yep, and if you look at all the pictures of it 90% of them are old bitter religious people, some even brought kids a long and made them hold up signs etc. Disgusting.

MagicMarker · 20-01-2013 06:56PM

In a country of 4 million, 25k gobshítes is unsurprising.

Look at the polls, and you'll see where the majority of people in this country stand on abortion.

otto_26 · 20-01-2013 06:57PM

Well done people of Ireland

COYVB · 20-01-2013 06:59PM

Sure it's not like religious zealots have anything better to be doing than telling everyone else how to live their lives. A high turnout is hardly a surprise. It was that or mass

LivelineDipso · 20-01-2013 06:59PM

triple-M wrote: »

I reckon abortion would be positive for the country as less babies = less welfare payments for unwanted babies

It's middle class people who have abortions. Skangers never would as the get extra mickey money and moved up the housing lists more kids they have.

My name is URL · 20-01-2013 07:02PM

A good 25% of the protestors yesterday aren't even citizens of the RoI. They'd be better off protesting against abortion in their own country, where it's legal already.

otto_26 · 20-01-2013 07:03PM

seven_eleven wrote: »

Yep, and if you look at all the pictures of it 90% of them are old bitter religious people, some even brought kids a long and made them hold up signs etc. Disgusting.

Yep, and if you look at the pro choice march in all the pictures of it 90% of them are old and young bitter non-religious people, some even brought kids a long and made them hold up signs etc. Disgusting. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Am Chile · 20-01-2013 07:05PM

seven_eleven wrote: »

Yep, and if you look at all the pictures of it 90% of them are old bitter religious people, some even brought kids a long and made them hold up signs etc. Disgusting.

Plus 1-the other day I got a leaflet in the letterbox about yesterdays rally and contact number to book a place on a bus to travel to dublin for the rally-when I looked outside to see who was doing the leaflet drop in my estate-a neighbour in the street around the corner from me, a fellow in his mid 50s whos in a bible study group was doing the leaflet drop go figure-as for the turnout for yesterdays rally while its impressive-the rally for savita in Novemebr drew about 20.000 to 30.000 out that day-anyone who was there will know that.

PseudoFamous · 20-01-2013 07:07PM

The financial backing was actually disgusting, imo. Printed signs for the protesters, gigantic TV things, buses to bring people from distant towns to the city for free. Rotten. All of this **** is paid for by Americans via the Iona instutute, it's sickening.

Grayson · 20-01-2013 07:10PM

My name is URL wrote: »

A good 25% of the protestors yesterday aren't even citizens of the RoI. They'd be better off protesting against abortion in their own country, where it's legal already.

Really? Links?

My name is URL · 20-01-2013 07:11PM

PseudoFamous wrote: »

The financial backing was actually disgusting, imo. Printed signs for the protesters, gigantic TV things, buses to bring people from distant towns to the city for free. Rotten. All of this **** is paid for by Americans via the Iona instutute, it's sickening.

The pro-choice side doesn't go without funding either tbh... Isn't Chuck Feeney a financial backer for them?

maringo · 20-01-2013 07:12PM

Referendum results stand - that's unless they want another one. Roll on the legislation and get it sorted for once and for all. Looked to me that most of the heads in that demo wouldn't need to worry about having a heathy pregnancy/baby :rolleyes:

galwayrush · 20-01-2013 07:12PM

Freedom of speech, no harm done. Majority will win, a lot of people who would be pro life personally are also pro choice because common sense tells them that they don't have a right to dictate someone's life choices, which can be traumatic and difficult due to personal circumstances.

otto_26 · 20-01-2013 07:14PM

galwayrush wrote: »

Freedom of speech, no harm done. Majority will win, a lot of people who would be pro life personally are also pro choice because common sense tells them that they don't have a right to dictate someone's life choices, which can be traumatic and difficult due to personal circumstances.

Freedom of speech!! only if it's pro choice on here!! this site stinks of hypocrites...

krudler · 20-01-2013 07:15PM

amazing what lies and free buses can do

shruikan2553 · 20-01-2013 07:15PM

Who did the counting? A pro life person may include babies on their side while ignoring them on the other or leave out a group of people standing over somewhere else, also this event was publicised as pro life so many pro choice wouldn't be paying attention. Ive seen both sides try to make themselves look better so dont take these numbers too seriously.

Polls show pro choice is the majority ad that is what will matter in the end, not how many people a side could gather up and offer a free trip to dublin for when they had nothing better to do. Im starting to get fed up of these gatherings/pissing contests and wish we would just vote and shut up both sides.

Biggins · 20-01-2013 07:15PM

Considering (despite the personal feelings of Enda Kenny on the matter) FG will probably bring in the smallest amount of legislation possible so that abortions can happen in limited circumstances - how will FG handle Terence Flanagan, a Dublin North East TD?

What about him?

He was part of that rally.
He objects (religious reasons) to what FG is doing - but yet he is going to have to vote with the government - and if he don't will we see him kicked out, equally as punished as others previous that have defied the government?

My name is URL · 20-01-2013 07:16PM

Grayson wrote: »

Really? Links?

No official links on the numbers, but that's from talking to people who were present yesterday. Buses were running from a few towns in the North.

COYVB · 20-01-2013 07:17PM

otto_26 wrote: »

Freedom of speech!! only if it's pro choice on here!! this site stinks of hypocrites...

I think you'll find freedom of speech is fine, it's people dictating how others should live their lives based on their religious beliefs where the line gets drawn.

McSheez · 20-01-2013 07:21PM

seven_eleven wrote: »

Yep, and if you look at all the pictures of it 90% of them are old bitter religious people, some even brought kids a long and made them hold up signs etc. Disgusting.

From the photos I saw there was still a decent turnout of young girls, I can only hope that it's a lack of balanced information that brought them there and that they'll eventually realise what decade we're living. I think anyone who turns up to an Anti abortion rally with their kids needs a good slap. At least most of em will be dead in 20 years and our kids won't have to worry about this ****e.

galwayrush · 20-01-2013 07:24PM

otto_26 wrote: »

Freedom of speech!! only if it's pro choice on here!! this site stinks of hypocrites...

Pro choice does not necessarily mean pro abortion, it means people can make up their own mind , make a choice that suits personal circumstances.
Abortion won't be compulsary so no need for the millitant pro lifers to worry about it.

mikom · 20-01-2013 07:26PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDyUhI1ArPo

Biggins · 20-01-2013 07:28PM

There is one small bit of good news:

Organisers of the rally are planning to collect 100,000 signatures for a pledge never to vote again for Fine Gael if abortion legislation is introduced.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/ireland/article1198096.ece

So assuming that there will be legislation of some kind, where there be that many or even half not voting for FG?

Great news!

COYVB · 20-01-2013 07:29PM

galwayrush wrote: »

Pro choice does not necessarily mean pro
Abortion won't be compulsary so no need for the millitant pro lifers to worry about it.

This is the most baffling thing about it. Bringing in a Pro Choice law for abortion would in no way change anything about the way Pro Life people go about their day to day lives. They'd still be against abortion, and that's absolutely fine, because nobody would force or encourage them to have them - that's where the CHOICE bit comes in. It's always really confused me how they don't get that.

Allowing other people to do things that your religion doesn't allow doesn't have any affect on those who follow that religion. None at all.

At Least 25,000 Attend Anti-Abortion Vigil

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