Is Lance Armstrong a psychopath?

parc · 18-01-2013 11:47PM #1

We had a thread back a while about psychopaths and a few people mentioned that being a psychopath doesn't mean you go round killing people, it's just specific character traits, and many exist in business and every day life

No remorse or empathy. No connection with other people's feelings. Manipulative, a fantastic liar, and an unwavering conviction that they are right

Lance seemed to have the traits in abundance. Could he be a psychopath (not a sociopath)?

Max Power · 18-01-2013 11:48PM

Sociopath maybe?

tigger123 · 18-01-2013 11:49PM

All signs point to yes.

On a serious note, he's not sorry, he's just sorry he got caught.

Scumbag.

goz83 · 18-01-2013 11:49PM

No. He is a terrible Liar. He convinced nobody he was innocent.

Praetorian Saighdiuir · 18-01-2013 11:49PM

I thought he was a Psychalist (sp?) ... I think.

parc · 18-01-2013 11:49PM

I think the people mentioned psychopath though. It surprised me too, I would have thought sociopath but they said psychopath

tigger123 · 18-01-2013 11:49PM

FionnMcCool87 wrote: »

Sociopath maybe?

Same thing, no?

endacl · 18-01-2013 11:49PM

parc wrote: »

We had a thread back a while about psychopaths and a few people mentioned that being a psychopath doesn't mean you go round killing people, it's just specific character traits, and many exist in business and every day life

No remorse or empathy. No connection with other people's feelings. Manipulative, a fantastic liar, and an unwavering conviction that they are right

Lance seemed to have the traits in abundance. Could he be a psychopath?

Well,by the traits you describe, yes he could.

Easier just to think of him as a lying, cheating, bullying pr1ck though.

Lollipops23 · 18-01-2013 11:50PM

I don't think anyone here is qualified or know him well enough to give an informed opinion on this.

I did have a conversation about this kind of thing recently with my father (he's a counselor), and it's true that the world is full of sociopaths and psychopaths. In fact we're pretty sure my uncle is an actual sociopath.

Frank Black · 18-01-2013 11:50PM

Total cyclepath.

areyawell · 18-01-2013 11:50PM

Leave him along, he only has one nut.

sfwcork · 18-01-2013 11:50PM

He did what the vast majority of people would do imo

DEFTLEFTHAND · 18-01-2013 11:51PM

A sociopath might be a more accurate term for him. They share the same traits and personality disorder but don't act out in a violent or perverse manner.

Lollipops23 · 18-01-2013 11:52PM

sfwcork wrote: »

He did what the vast majority of people would do imo

Ah now-it's one thing to participate in the doping thing, many athletes have done the same.

It was the way he went after people who accused him of doping over the years that really pissed me off. The arrogance was the kicker.

Biggins · 18-01-2013 11:53PM

sfwcork wrote: »

He did what the vast majority of people would do imo

The vast majority of the people?

Did the vast majority of fellow racers even do what he did - then you claim that the vast majority of people would do the same?

I suspect not.
I wouldn't and I know a great deal of people that I trust, would not.

You must know a lot of dodgy people to make that assumption.

My name is URL · 18-01-2013 11:54PM

I think the people talking non-stop about him and his poxy interview are psychopaths.

mitosis · 18-01-2013 11:55PM

I think the correct label is "cúnt"

racso1975 · 18-01-2013 11:55PM

What piss's me off is the amount of publicity this thief and cheat and pr!ck is getting!!!!

He doped and tried to destroy peoples life's and the only fluckin reason he is doing this god for saken confession is that he needs too. Not so he can sleep easy at night but so that he can compete in tri-athlons!!!

Total BS and Oprah is an idiot to go along with it too. Convenient that they are on the board of his charity together

The King of Moo · 18-01-2013 11:57PM

sfwcork wrote: »

He did what the vast majority of people would do imo

Win the Tour de France a record seven consecutive times??

I think you're overestimating the general public's cycling ability.

Timmyctc · 18-01-2013 11:57PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

A sociopath might be a more accurate term for him. They share the same traits and personality disorder but don't act out in a violent or perverse manner.

Psychopathy and Sociopathy are the same thing.

del88 · 18-01-2013 11:57PM

In fairness he was calm and collected during the interview.....he's got some ball.

Faith · 18-01-2013 11:58PM

FionnMcCool87 wrote: »

Sociopath maybe?

tigger123 wrote: »

Same thing, no?

Very little difference between the two terms, except psychopathy is an innate personality disorder (you were born that way, ain't nothing going to change it) and sociopathy is caused by your environment, usually while growing up.

sfwcork · 18-01-2013 11:58PM

Just because others dont get caught doesnt mean others dont do it

My name is URL · 18-01-2013 11:58PM

racso1975 wrote: »

What piss's me off is the amount of publicity this thief and cheat and pr!ck is getting!!!!

He doped and tried to destroy peoples life's and the only fluckin reason he is doing this god for saken confession is that he needs too. Not so he can sleep easy at night but so that he can compete in tri-athlons!!!

Total BS and Oprah is an idiot to go along with it too. Convenient that they are on the board of his charity together

Yeah, a real idiot for making tens of millions of dollars out of it!

How anyone was expecting Armstrong to give an honest account is beyond me.. do people really believe that he would give such interviews if it didn't serve him a purpose?

He should be allowed to disappear into obscurity like the disgraced wanker he is.

Stheno · 18-01-2013 11:59PM

del88 wrote: »

In fairness he was calm and collected during the interview.....he's got some ball.

It's all that testosterone he took:pac:

gurramok · 18-01-2013 11:59PM

He's just a junkie like those who trot thru our streets looking for their fix. Just so happens this is a junkie who had a severe addiction to win "at all costs"and had fame to hide his druggie cheating.

Pottler · 19-01-2013 12:03AM

Lance my boil. Who gives a shyte what a bike racer does or doesn't do. It's hardly life changing for the world. More celebrity hand wringing. Get a fcuking job Armstrong. Do somthing useful.

doolox · 19-01-2013 12:04AM

This all boils down to hero worship and adoring physical effort and physical feats. All of which can now be attained by chemical and physical enhancements which people call "cheating".

Sports is no longer a gift of birth or a chance phenomenon. Those who try to play it straight are doomed to "lose". Those who "cheat" by enhancing their performance will win.

Society in general needs to concentrate its search for scarcity on something else besides sports.

This is the reason for the cheating. Loads of MONEY can be got from being the first in some sporting feat. Even 1/100 of second puts you in 2nd place and 100's of millions poorer...its no wonder that all sorts of risks are taken to "ensure" 1st place.

Similar things are happening with music....autotune and other computer driven abominations such as sampling etc are devaluing musical art and making a joke of what used to be a really valid art form.

The planet needs to re-examine the idolatrous fixation with sports "stars"and "celebrities" who in a previous age would be laughed at as trivial and untalented non-entities.

Biggins · 19-01-2013 12:05AM

My name is URL wrote: »

...He should be allowed to disappear into obscurity like the disgraced wanker he is.

...But thats exactly what he might want - to get away with it now. Why should he get what he wants still?
Hasn't he gotten a lot his way already - including even his cowardly cosy interview!

Well the Times alone it appears is not going to let the sod rest, they are further going to counter-sue him now, if only for committing purgery in the court case he had against them.
What was the amount he won (in the total wrong from them) - 1.5 million?

Frank Black · 19-01-2013 12:05AM

sfwcork wrote: »

Just because others dont get caught doesnt mean others dont do it

You mean there may be others?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 19-01-2013 12:06AM

Biggins wrote: »

The vast majority of the people?

Did the vast majority of fellow racers even do what he did - then you claim that the vast majority of people would do the same?

I suspect not.
I wouldn't and I know a great deal of people that I trust, would not.

You must know a lot of dodgy people to make that assumption.

The sport was/is rife with it though, many of the top riders may have been corrupted by the sport itself. The need for the support riders to use EPO wasn't there so hence the majority of riders were clean.

Is Lance Armstrong a psychopath?

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