Restaurant bans children...

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Of course, I've already learned on this thread that I'm not fit to be a parent.....

Well, at least your day hasn't been totally wasted. :pac:

Killer Wench wrote: »

I have put on a jacket when I notice people's gaze returning again and again to my breasts.

Expected, no?

If you walk around in a hipster thong, do you expect people not to stare?
If you walk around in a see-through top, do you expect people not to stare?

You whip out your tit, i respectfully reserve my right to leer lasciviously.

themadchef wrote: »

Old people are quite cranky too. They complain. gotta keep them out too.
People in wheelchairs take up alot of room, yeah, fúck them out as well.
Fat people need to go, make the place look untidy.
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Why the fook would a restaurant want to turn away a fat person?
Well unless they were on a diet maybe I guess, but even then all the food and the smell would tempt them back.

true-or-false wrote: »

Of course they should be allowed to ban children. Especially considering how badly behaved a lot of kids are nowadays. I'm only 22 but I remember when I was younger there was a lot less tolerance for kids. Maybe it's just my perspective, but I think careless parenting is on the rise. Not bad parenting, just that some people seem like they're picking their battles a bit too carefully. Plus the mad prams and buggies people are hauling around with them these days. Everything used to be foldable or able to be disassembled for restaurants or buses. Now it seems to be a case of, "well yes my buggy is massive and no one can get by, but I have kids so deal with it".

And yes, I am disproportionately angry about this. I've no idea why.

All I will say is come back when you have kids if you ever do.

xLexie wrote: »

Not everybody finds the sound of a screaming child to be cute. Nobody is going to pay to sit somewhere to get a headache. Have no idea why parents bring small kids to restaurants for anyway.

Well here is a nugget of information.
You are a family out away from home and guess what people get fooking hungry.
And hungry kids get really narky just like a hungry adult.
And then rather than going into a supermarket and sitting back in the car eating sh**e sandwiches like a bunch of gobdaws, you go into a restaurant.
Perish the fooking thought people with kids shouldn't tie them like a horse outside the doors of restaurants to keep gobsh**es like you happy.

Ficheall wrote: »

How indignant would you be if they had to ask you to leave half-way through your meal, though?

Well then they could go fook themselves for the money.

I have kids and I am sorry to say they have on the odd occassion played up in a restaurant, for instance after being at a kids concert.
I was embarassed and apologising to people that they may have been inconveniencing.
I could have slapped two shades of blue into one of them I was that angry with him.
Of course if I had the same people who would complain about their behaviour would then be complaining about mine.

We finsihed our meal quickly and left a nice tip for the understanding staff.

Now if the restaurant had asked us to leave, there is no way I would have paid and there is no way I would ever go back with or without kids.

I know of one restaurant who made it apparent they didn't like kids, and these were perfectly behaved that day.
The outcome of that is I would never go in there with or without kids and I advise other people (kids or not) not to bother with it.

As for funaerals or other ocassions.
I have quickly gotten up and left a funeral, a wedding and a christianing when a baby started to cry or a toddler started to get uppidy.
And if it is a family ocassion one cannot leave then at home so that is why they are there.

And if we want to talk about people bringin kids to funerals, etc what then about the peope who let their mobile phones ring during these services.

The thing a lot of people don't appear to get is that you get inconsiderate and ignorant people with and without kids.
The kids often just highlight it more.

reap-a-rat wrote: »

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I've spent an inordinate amount of time with children of all ages so I don't see why I am not qualified to voice my opinion. ...

Well unless you work with children I wouldn't be going round boasting about that.

true-or-false wrote: »

I was once at a restaurant where there was only two tables occupied, mine and another with 4 adults and a baby in a high chair. The baby was really bored, spent about half an hour crying and finally settled down. After a while of being quiet the adults completely ignored it, and it eventually started reaching around for things. It was dangerously close to knocking over a wine glass when I leaned over and said to one of the adults "Sorry, he's about to get a hold of that there". It was just a heads up but I got a seriously dirty look for saying anything. The glass was moved and about 5 mins later he had actually picked up a knife. A knife for god's sake. I pointed it out to my father who was there at the time, because I honestly didn't know how they'd take me advising them to remove the knife from their child's hand. He said it to them himself and they just took the knife off the kid and carried on their meal, no thanks, no shock, nothing. But it's things like:

that make people apprehensive to point out when they see something they think is wrong.

You don't need to have kids to be able to see when something's amiss.

And have you ever met ignorant people who haven't kids ?

I'm a parent and I approve this message. I think people should be able to choose to be away from kids if they wish.

true-or-false wrote: »

Hmm, I don't get either of your comments about my posts (which is a pity because I love a good argument). In the first you don't explain what you mean, and in the second you make a comment completely unrelated to the post you quoted.

Ok in the first you mentioned about mad prams and buggies parents haul about with them.
The thing is if you have two young kiddies, much like if you have twins, you need a buggy to handle that.
That is one reason why parents don't have a small buggy one can easily fold away.
Another reason is that parents go out walking, hills and forests, with the kids and they have a large buggy trike that can go on rough paths, etc.
Also the large buggies do allow the carrying of all the baggage like the change bag (nappies, clothes), the milk and water bottles, the baby food, and the toys to keep them happy if they do happen to be in restaurant God forbid.

Parents, or at least us or our friends, haven't gone out to get the biggest buggy they can get so that they can pi** people off.
Trust me we drag a small one on holidays, even though it means we can;t carry as much, because the big fecking one takes up half the boot.

When you have kids and are dealing with this you will soon understand that parents aren't for the vast majority of the time trying to be annoying anyone.
Some may but then they are spanners, kids or no kids.

true-or-false wrote: »

I never said that all parents are ignorant or that all people without kids aren't ignorant. I only wanted to point out that it's a great shame that you often see kids getting up to things that they shouldn't and you can't say or do anything about it because the parents are so defensive they'd almost commend the kid for getting up to trouble and berate you for saying anything.

As an example that I'm sure many people have experienced, you're sitting on a train/standing in a queue and a kid sitting across from you/sitting in a buggy behind you starts kicking the life out of your legs. You look around at the parent, in an attempt to prompt a reaction, and get none. I don't need to have kids to be allowed to complain that that shouldn't be allowed. Oh sure, little Bobby is exhibiting anti-social behaviour and your legs are getting sore (not to mention you feel quite embarrassed), but sure kids will be kids. It's not like he needs to learn not to hurt people, or that he'd ever be around anyone that that behaviour might be more hurtful to, like, I don't know, other kids. I couldn't possibly comment on a situation like that, because I don't have kids?

My point was that often the same people that would allow their kids do that sort of stuff and even berate you for saying anything would be the same sort that would have a go at you if you complained they banged your car as they opened their car door when in the carpark.
If people are ignorant in one aspect then I bet it happens in others.

And yes I do agree that some parents have a blind spot where their little darling can do no wrong and perish the thought someone should say anything to the contrary.

LifesgoodwithLG wrote: »

ps everyone this is not an attack on your children, we were all children once and liked to run around and generally be children. Its stating that restaurants are more often adult environments which bore the hell out of children therefore they are more likely to act up.

And all I am saying is that as a parent, sometimes I and my kids need to eat.
And by eating I don't mean eating a sandwich or the cr**, which makes our horse brugers positively appetising, they serve in fast food establishments.
Thus we end up in a restaurant.

Pubs and non-family restaurants just aren't places kids should be.

Great way to make more money in this economic climate - alienate half the population.

Unless im mistaken, we where all children once, im sure your parents would have been delighted to be told "hit the road".

So being a parent means you should be seen as some type of leper when it comes to eating in resturants. Why not ban all children from public view, so those poor people who dont have or dont want kids have to suffer them.

Get a grip, everyone was a child once, you dont like kids, then go to the drive-thru.

I dont think you should ban kids from a restaurant but some parents need to realise their kids shouldnt be allowed to run riot.

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Yes, we were all children once. But some of us were taught how to behave in public. However, lately, more and more people are letting children run riot.

Sucks for people that actually parent their children, it really does.

But there are restaurants that are more child friendly than others. Why not frequent these restaurants if you have your kids in tow, and let those that don't want to be bothered by kids, go to the child free restaurant?

It's not a hard concept. For example, Curves don't allow male members join their gyms. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. I have other options.

Now if I go to a child friendly restaurant, and start cribbing and crying about kids annoying me, well, that's my own tough luck.

And there are more options to feed children than going to fast food joints, or go home.

So if you have a child/children and your bringing them out for the day (as good parents do), you should have to go in and check if your allowed to bring them into the resturant first at 2pm during the day....!

I have children and work in the the industry. And think its insane to even attempt that.

I didnt have my first child till i was 33. I didnt particulary like unsupervised kids running around, but did realise its a fact of life. Maybe we should start a referendum and ban everything we dont like about life in general.

Im sure everyone here was always on their best behaviour when they went out with their parents as children and never had any of those "moments".

Just remember, you where probably at one stage during your childhood the subject of the "tsks" and glares.

Fact is i dont care, ill not be dining there with or without the kids now. That and ill be sure to tell my friends and family to avoid like the plague. Im sure they wont have to worry about kids for much longer, they wont have to worry about having the buisness much longer either:rolleyes:.

steddyeddy wrote: »

Unsupervised kids certainly doesnt have to be a fact of life.

Dont have to be, but they are. Kids will be kids, they get bored if not properly entertained. Im really not a huge fan off bringing them to resturants anyway, but at family get togethers, with no one to babysit, whats my options? Ask the person organising to ring around and see who will take us?

I dont like bringing my kids to pubs either for the same reason, pub time for me is about relaxing and not looking after the kids.

Night time is for going for a relaxing meal in a resturant without the kids for me.

StinkyMunkey wrote: »

So if you have a child/children and your bringing them out for the day (as good parents do), you should have to go in and check if your allowed to bring them into the resturant first at 2pm during the day....!

I have children and work in the the industry. And think its insane to even attempt that.

I didnt have my first child till i was 33. I didnt particulary like unsupervised kids running around, but did realise its a fact of life. Maybe we should start a referendum and ban everything we dont like about life in general.

Im sure everyone here was always on their best behaviour when they went out with their parents as children and never had any of those "moments".

Just remember, you where probably at one stage during your childhood the subject of the "tsks" and glares.

Fact is i dont care, ill not be dining there with or without the kids now. That and ill be sure to tell my friends and family to avoid like the plague. Im sure they wont have to worry about kids for much longer, they wont have to worry about having the buisness much longer either:rolleyes:.

maybe we should have a referendum for drama queens? And Don't worry anywhere that bans kids will have queues lining up. Just because you like your little darlings doesn't mean the rest of the world has to and just because you can put up with their screeches doesn't mean we have to.
There are plenty of family restaurants, go there. But don't get annoyed when everyone else says they want to go somewhere quiet and have a quiet meal.