Unpopular Opinions.

brandon_flowers · 17-01-2013 07:45AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Of course it is. You go to any famine area, or just some dirt poor hell hole and start handing out big macs and buckets of kfc - Do you honestly think you'll get a lot of vegans opting out on ethical grounds?
You don't need to be lord muck to turn vegan, but you need to be able to readily access and afford an alternative source of food. A large percentage of the world have no choice whatsover in what they eat, they have to eat what's available to survive.

+1,000,000,000.

You are rich enough to have the choice. At least 1 billion people on this planet don't have that choice.

geeky · 17-01-2013 05:22PM

I f*cking hate horse racing.

Also not a fan of the national ploughing championships.

geeky · 17-01-2013 05:22PM

I f*cking hate horse racing.

Also not a fan of the national ploughing championships.

Speak Now · 17-01-2013 06:01PM

I f*cking hate double posts.

Opps new page....epic fail

Dostoevsky · 17-01-2013 06:29PM

Television, generally, is awful - I can't help but feel companies and spindoctors want to use me via their incessant adverts etc.
Radio, generally, is awful - for the same reason as above.
Cinema - well, you reach a stage in life when you've seen most/all of the plots and it's predictable, and what with cinema owners raising the volume in a cinema and teenagers chatting loudly at the back, well it's just more of the same imposition.
Pubs - with their blaring televisions and loud music, they lost me long ago. I used to like pubs where I could have a quiet chat with friends.

Internet discussion fora as alternatives are awfully overrated because they revolve around ego and this is, long term, poisonous to the healthy development of most people. It will take a while for this to be generally appreciated.

I'd have no objection to paying for a tv channel that was advertisement free and offered me documentaries or fact-based programmes. I'm just utterly tired of having formulaic commercial television or radio or pub cultures, adverts and blandness foisted upon me.

General rule: if people look down on you for not being into the latest trend, you're probably on the right track long-term in life.

old hippy · 17-01-2013 07:02PM

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Television, generally, is awful - I can't help but feel companies and spindoctors want to use me via their incessant adverts etc.
Radio, generally, is awful - for the same reason as above.
Cinema - well, you reach a stage in life when you've seen most/all of the plots and it's predictable, and what with cinema owners raising the volume in a cinema and teenagers chatting loudly at the back, well it's just more of the same imposition.
Pubs - with their blaring televisions and loud music, they lost me long ago. I used to like pubs where I could have a quiet chat with friends.

Internet discussion fora as alternatives are awfully overrated because they revolve around ego and this is, long term, poisonous to the healthy development of most people. It will take a while for this to be generally appreciated.

I'd have no objection to paying for a tv channel that was advertisement free and offered me documentaries or fact-based programmes. I'm just utterly tired of having formulaic commercial television or radio or pub cultures, adverts and blandness foisted upon me.

General rule: if people look down on you for not being into the latest trend, you're probably on the right track long-term in life.

Well, at least you still like books, right?

Neeson · 17-01-2013 07:03PM

It is possible to get aroused by your own scent.

Dostoevsky · 17-01-2013 07:07PM

old hippy wrote: »

Well, at least you still like books, right?

Yes, until they too are being rammed down my throat à la what happens when I switch on the TV or Radio or go to the Cinema or Pub.

old hippy · 17-01-2013 07:13PM

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Yes, until they too are being rammed down my throat à la what happens when I switch on the TV or Radio or go to the Cinema or Pub.

Here's my recommendation; set your machine to record only the shows/programmes/documentaries you actually want to see.

Listen to commerical free stations like R3 or R4.

Only go to the cinema if it's on at the IFC, subtitled or in black and white.

Browse for books in your local charity and second hand book stores.

Go to a pub without a telly, sound system or, crucially, punters.

I too am assailed by popular culture and mass media moronics on a regular basis but I can screen them out, if I wish.

Reekwind · 17-01-2013 07:17PM

brandon_flowers wrote: »

Vegans and Vegetarians only exist because they are rich enough to have the choice.

There are approx 400m vegetarians in India alone. The staple diet of most pre-industrial European societies was grain, with meat making very occasional appearances. Care to revisit your ignorant opinion?

Cienciano · 17-01-2013 07:20PM

MickFleetwood wrote: »

led zeppelin aren't that great a band

You must like being wrong :pac:

BusyMum12 · 17-01-2013 07:29PM

I think Adele is over rated. Her voice and music seem fairly average to me.

Czarcasm · 17-01-2013 07:55PM

Reekwind wrote: »

There are approx 400m vegetarians in India alone. The staple diet of most pre-industrial European societies was grain, with meat making very occasional appearances. Care to revisit your ignorant opinion?

Probably best not to mention either the one billion Chinese whose diet consists primarily of rice and vegetables!

Czarcasm · 17-01-2013 07:57PM

BusyMum12 wrote: »

I think Adele is over rated. Her voice and music seem fairly average to me.

:eek:

NegativeCreep · 17-01-2013 08:30PM

BusyMum12 wrote: »

I think Adele is over rated. Her voice and music seem fairly average to me.

Best of a bad lot these days thought it seems.

brandon_flowers · 17-01-2013 09:06PM

Reekwind wrote: »

There are approx 400m vegetarians in India alone. The staple diet of most pre-industrial European societies was grain, with meat making very occasional appearances. Care to revisit your ignorant opinion?

Care to read the thread title.

Reekwind · 17-01-2013 09:19PM

'Unpopular' doesn't necessarily mean 'stupid' or 'wrong'. You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts

NegativeCreep · 18-01-2013 04:41AM

I couldn't care less of lance Armstrong doped or not. Seriously, why does anyone care??

NIMAN · 18-01-2013 06:02AM

The Big Bang Theory TV show is seriously unfunny.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 18-01-2013 07:17AM

The whole point of western edcation systems is to confrom and indoctrinate kids rather than to actually educate them.

The King of Moo · 18-01-2013 09:12AM

IrishExpat wrote: »

Final thought before I log off: Some people are only alive because it's illegal to shoot them.

That's such a cliched expression that it could hardly represent an unpopular opinion.

Czarcasm · 18-01-2013 09:35AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

The whole point of western edcation systems is to confrom and indoctrinate kids rather than to actually educate them.

There are vast differences between the education system in Ireland and the UK, let alone France, Sweden, or the US. There's unpopular opinion, and then there's just being silly.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 18-01-2013 09:43AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

There are vast differences between the education system in Ireland and the UK, let alone France, Sweden, or the US. There's unpopular opinion, and then there's just being silly.

My point was referring more to the ultimate goal of said systems rather than the quality.

Beyond that, you'll need to elaborate on these "vast differences".

Czarcasm · 18-01-2013 09:59AM

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

My point was referring more to the ultimate goal of said systems rather than the quality.

Beyond that, you'll need to elaborate on these "vast differences".

And I'll do just that, when you elaborate upon your assertion that the ultimate goal of western education is indoctrination and conformity. If you could give examples based on your experience that'd be great. Otherwise we can just leave it here with all the other throwaway populist opinions.

mark renton · 18-01-2013 01:59PM

Requesting somebody to "elaborate" is really a form of denial.

Madam_X · 18-01-2013 03:11PM

mark renton wrote: »

Requesting somebody to "elaborate" is really a form of denial.

Well it depends of course.

Making wild, unsubstantiated, inaccurate, short claims (for attention) like on this thread, is piss-boiling... but then again that's not an unpopular opinion.

mark renton · 18-01-2013 04:02PM

Madam_X wrote: »

Well it depends of course.

Making wild, unsubstantiated, inaccurate, short claims (for attention) like on this thread, is piss-boiling... but then again that's not an unpopular opinion.

Opinions dont require elaboration, that is why they are opinions. Requesting elaboration on an opinion defeats the point to having an opinion, unpopular or not.

Czarcasm · 18-01-2013 04:35PM

mark renton wrote: »

Requesting somebody to "elaborate" is really a form of denial.

mark renton wrote: »

Opinions dont require elaboration, that is why they are opinions. Requesting elaboration on an opinion defeats the point to having an opinion, unpopular or not.

Requesting elaboration on an opinion doesn't at all defeat the point of having an opinion. Everyone has opinions, popular and unpopular, but they should at least be able to elaborate on the reasons for the basis of their opinions, otherwise they're just doing what I call entering a crowded room, farting, and then walking out, leaving everyone else to deal with the smell.

It's just downright ignorant, as is the idea of having an opinion with no evidence to support that opinion, unpopular or not.

gbee · 18-01-2013 05:26PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

It's just downright ignorant, as is the idea of having an opinion with no evidence to support that opinion, unpopular or not.

My opinion would not agree. Now, it would be great if we had evidence for everything, wouldn't it?

We'd have no need of discussion, would we, there's the evidence and one cannot dispute it, it's there in black n white.

So I'd be more inclined to put the "It's just downright ignorant, as is the idea of having an opinion with no evidence to support that opinion, unpopular or not" in the ignorance section rather than an opinion with no evidence.

Rasheed · 18-01-2013 05:42PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

It's just downright ignorant, as is the idea of having an opinion with no evidence to support that opinion, unpopular or not.

Well it depends what constitutes as evidence. If you wanted hard details and numbers, it wouldn't be an opinion, it'd be a fact. Or if you took anecdotal evidence to support the opinion, which I suppose is how most people form opinions.

If I said, in my opinion, people from Mayo are lovely and you asked for facts, I wouldn't have any! But you'd be perfectly entitled to ask why I thought this.

I also completely agree that it's pointless saying something without having something to back it up, be it popular or unpopular.

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