Story horse? Mega Thread.

gowley · 15-01-2013 07:58PM

Zab wrote: »

Did he say this on the radio? It doesn't say that in the report (no mention of the source) and it doesn't say it in the articles I've read (some did come from the UK, I assume the Moordale ones).

the tesco 29% ARE made in ireland

wolfeye · 15-01-2013 08:01PM

kneemos wrote: »

If they can sell burgers for a euro it ain't prime cut is it?

I heard straight from the horses mouth it's not prime cut.
A bit of a night mare they say.

kneemos · 15-01-2013 08:03PM

gowley wrote: »

the tesco 29% ARE made in ireland

Only trace amounts in the Irish plants according to the food authority.

Thrill · 15-01-2013 08:05PM

Gives a new meaning to flogging a dead horse.

gowley · 15-01-2013 08:07PM

kneemos wrote: »

Only trace amounts in the Irish plants according to the food authority.

they were all made in irish factories for tesco lidl aldi and dunnes. The only ones made in the uk were for iceland. the two companies were liffey meats and silvercrest. the most found was 29% in tesco everyday valu burgers produced in ireland factory code IE565EC.

Boombastic · 15-01-2013 08:08PM

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Liffey Meats Quality bull horse shit page

More than likely the products weren't under their own brand name.

Supermarkets sometimes negotiate with producers to create supermarket branded / cheaper versions of their products.

So a "Value brand" wouldn't have the same standards.
That's why I rarely buy supermarket branded goods.

I'd a mate in college ( 20 years ago ) who used to work in a well known Irish meat processing factory.
They were picking the maggots off the production line for a well known Irish supermarkets branded products.

Looking at the table of results, there is a huge flaw in that argument as most own brands tested negative

B.A._Baracus · 15-01-2013 08:09PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Horse DNA doesn't mean horse meat.. it could be semen for all anyone knows!

Maybe its just me but I'd rather eat horse meat than horse jizz :pac:

gowley · 15-01-2013 08:10PM

kneemos wrote: »

Only trace amounts in the Irish plants according to the food authority.

It is made by Silvercrest foods in monaghan and is part of abp. just checked the factory codes

Dostoevsky · 15-01-2013 08:11PM

gowley wrote: »

they were all made in irish factories for tesco lidl aldi and dunnes. The only ones made in the uk were for iceland. the two companies were liffey meats and silvercrest. the most found was 29% in tesco everyday valu burgers produced in ireland factory code IE565EC.

If true, it is the equivalent of treachery by Larry Goodman (Silvercrest) and Frank Mallon (Liffey Meats). There are so many jobs based on the Irish food industry these people are undermining Irish livelihoods and should, theoretically of course, be prosecuted by the Irish state. Ha. Not likely.

Perhaps an employee of one of these firms could prosecute them and we could donate to a legal fund?

Zab · 15-01-2013 08:12PM

gowley wrote: »

they were all made in irish factories for tesco lidl aldi and dunnes. The only ones made in the uk were for iceland. the two companies were liffey meats and silvercrest. the most found was 29% in tesco everyday valu burgers produced in ireland factory code IE565EC.

You're right, I missed the Plant Number column. The 29% horse Tesco burgers are Irish. keemos, either you or the guy on the radio must have got this one wrong.

gowley · 15-01-2013 08:13PM

Boombastic wrote: »

Looking at the table of results, there is a huge flaw in that argument as most own brands tested negative

dont know where you are getting your info but EVERY product that tested positive for equine were own brand bar flamehouse in dunnes. moordale is an supermarket brand as is natures isle as is st bernard as is tesco and everyday valu

Boombastic · 15-01-2013 08:14PM

gowley wrote: »

dont know where you are getting your info but EVERY product that tested positive for equine were own brand bar flamehouse in dunnes. moordale is an supermarket brand as is natures isle as is st bernard as is tesco and everyday valu

From the fsai

Birds eye aren't own brand neither are big al's,

Edit opps your right, they had the pig not horse

Moneygall · 15-01-2013 08:14PM

Every little ( bit of horse meat, from Larry Goodmans Silvercrest plant) helps!!!

allthedoyles · 15-01-2013 08:14PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Horse DNA doesn't mean horse meat.. it could be semen for all anyone knows!

One sample was 29% horse meat

kneemos · 15-01-2013 08:15PM

Zab wrote: »

You're right, I missed the Plant Number column. The 29% horse Tesco burgers are Irish. keemos, either you or the guy on the radio must have got this one wrong.

Only know what the bloke said,take it up with him.

Judgement Day · 15-01-2013 08:17PM

Given that burgers are one of the simplest things to make at home - even I can do it - it's madness to buy them from a supermarket. Just another reason why I continue to only buy organic meat wherever possible or do without.

gowley · 15-01-2013 08:20PM

kneemos wrote: »

Only know what the bloke said,take it up with him.

lol just correcting your post.dont know what he said so can only comment on what you said

Zab · 15-01-2013 08:23PM

Judgement Day wrote: »

Just another reason why I continue to only buy organic meat wherever possible or do without.

I don't think this has anything to do with how the animals are fed.

I'd be curious to see them do the same for mince. I suspect there will be at least pork traces in a lot of the pre-packaged mince, possibly even the same for a butcher.

Procasinator · 15-01-2013 08:24PM

Zab wrote: »

I don't think this has anything to do with how the animals are fed.

I'd be curious to see them do the same for mince. I suspect there will be at least pork traces in a lot of the pre-packaged mince, possibly even the same for a butcher.

Probably even more likely in the butchers, if they only have one mincer, and serve pork/lamb mince as well.

B.A._Baracus · 15-01-2013 08:24PM

Judgement Day wrote: »

Given that burgers are one of the simplest things to make at home - even I can do it - it's madness to buy them from a supermarket. Just another reason why I continue to only buy organic meat wherever possible or do without.

As quoted on one of the links MadsL posted:

A study last year found one in five pubs and restaurants was selling beef from South America as 'British' or 'local'. Much of the beef was part Zebu, a breed found in Brazil which is tougher and of poorer quality than British beef. It is also profitable to substitute cheap alternatives for products such as free-range eggs, organic vegetables, basmati rice, virgin olive oil, mozzarella cheese and arabica coffee beans.

A spokesman for the consumer group Which? said: 'The level of food fraud in the UK has been estimated at about £7billion a year but the true extent is impossible to gauge. It is not easy to spot when a premium product has been substituted or mixed with a cheaper one or when a label lies about its origin.

Being honest, I reckon half of the food products out there arent really organic. No way for a consumer to know. Geez, you really cant trust anything in this world

hedzball · 15-01-2013 08:26PM

so no one took the the horse to france after all....

Zab · 15-01-2013 08:26PM

Procasinator wrote: »

Probably even more likely in the butchers, if they only have one mincer, and serve pork/lamb mince as well.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I don't know if they have guidelines on cleaning them in between meats. I guess horse is less likely though!

Arciphel · 15-01-2013 08:27PM

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monkeypants · 15-01-2013 08:28PM

o1s1n wrote: »

I'd still rather eat horse than go vegan.

I'd eat the jockey, the trainer and the wheels off the horsebox before I'd make that move.

Pal · 15-01-2013 08:28PM

Tesco statement
"Our customers have the right to expect that food they buy is produced to highest safety and quality standards".

Everything's all right then.
Assuming the statement that means that its thoroughbred burgers.
Was worried sick the family might be eating donkey or Shergar !

Fritzl Funderland · 15-01-2013 08:29PM

i wondered what had happened to the horse i left outside...

15-01-2013 08:29PM

StormWarrior wrote: »

Yuck. Another good reason to go vegan. You don't know what you are getting in animal products.

Ha no.

irishgeo · 15-01-2013 08:30PM

The supermarkets will have to put a warning on their beef burgers, saying may contain traces of beef.

BattleCorp · 15-01-2013 08:30PM

kneemos wrote: »

Only trace amounts in the Irish plants according to the food authority.

It doesn't matter if it's only trace amounts. The meat shouldn't have gotten into the burgers. You wouldn't be saying it's only trace amounts if it was salmonella or ecoli in the meat.

We are supposed to have some sort of tracability of meat in this country. Clearly the system isn't working.

You could get a small amount of horse meat in a beef burger if you used the same mincing machine for doing both horse and beef and didn't wash the machine in between. I fail to see how that could be as high as 29% though.

Would adding horse meat reduce the cost of producing the burgers?

JustAddWater · 15-01-2013 08:30PM

Fritzl Funderland wrote: »

i wondered what had happened to the horse i left outside...

Meh! ... Just tape a bunch of cats together

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