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David Quinn spouting nonsense again. See Mod Warning post #249.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal



    Oh ****ee.. Now youve asked for it. here comes the waffle
    And the copious bible quotes and fake earnest concern, all wrapped up in a desire to evangelise based on a favourite 2,000 year old book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭CommanderC


    squod wrote: »
    Lunatic?

    How many abortions would you like OP? 1,000 per year? 2,000 per year? Italy currently has a rate of near 10% of pregnancies ending in abortions. US & Russias rates could be 20%. Massive numbers of people. Last year in Ireland 9,000 people were born and about 1,000 Irish people had abortions, 30 of which were carried out in this country (Ireland).

    So, thousands of deaths OP. You're calling for thousands of deaths.

    Thanks for the figures. Its obviously what the people want. I vote YES on abortion !!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    lazygal wrote: »
    And the copious bible quotes and fake earnest concern, all wrapped up in a desire to evangelise based on a favourite 2,000 year old book.

    How do you know that?:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    squod wrote: »
    Lunatic?

    How many abortions would you like OP? 1,000 per year? 2,000 per year? Italy currently has a rate of near 10% of pregnancies ending in abortions. US & Russias rates could be 20%. Massive numbers of people. Last year in Ireland 9,000 people were born and about 1,000 Irish people had abortions, 30 of which were carried out in this country (Ireland).

    So, thousands of deaths OP. You're calling for thousands of deaths.

    What are you calling for? Thousands of women to be forced to complete unwanted pregnancies against their will?:mad:


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Ariadne Dry Skit


    I call for thousands of deaths every time I wash my hands


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  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭Methody


    What are you calling for? Thousands of women to be forced to complete unwanted pregnancies against their will?:mad:

    No politicians (save for the likes of Ivana Bacik) in this country are calling for abortion-on-demand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Methody wrote: »
    No politicians (save for the likes of Ivana Bacik) in this country are calling for abortion-on-demand.

    So in standard English that would be some politicians (you can be a politician without being in the Oireachtas) are calling for termination on request for women who want it.


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭Methody


    So in standard English that would be some politicians (you can be a politician without being in the Oireachtas) are calling for termination on request for women who want it.

    Thankfully none of them get elected by the people of Ireland. They are rejected by their constituents and have to resort to getting in under the "University of Dublin" banner... lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Methody wrote: »
    No politicians (save for the likes of Ivana Bacik) in this country are calling for abortion-on-demand.


    According to the latest Red-C poll 29% of the electorate support abortion on demand:

    http://cdn.thejournal.ie/media/2013/01/paddy-power-10th-jan-political-poll-2013.pdf

    (see page 4)


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭Methody


    B0jangles wrote: »
    According to the latest Red-C poll 29% of the electorate support abortion on demand:

    http://cdn.thejournal.ie/media/2013/01/paddy-power-10th-jan-political-poll-2013.pdf

    (see page 4)

    I would take such results with a pinch of salt.

    Anyway, even if this figure were true, it's still a minority of people. That's democracy for ya, eh?

    So what elected representatives support abortion-on-demand (Down's syndrome, cleft palette, gender selective abortions, etc.)?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Methody wrote: »
    Thankfully none of them get elected by the people of Ireland. They are rejected by their constituents and have to resort to getting in under the "University of Dublin" banner... lol

    You're funny, I like funny people:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Methody wrote: »
    I would take such results with a pinch of salt.

    Anyway, even if this figure were true, it's still a minority of people. That's democracy for ya, eh?


    If you read the poll results you'll see that a further 35% support legalising abortion along the lines of the X case, leaving a minority (26%) in favour of excluding suicide as a possible reason to allow abortion, and only 8% opposed to abortion in all circumstances.

    But if you don't accept data as evidence, there's nothing much left to say, is there?


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭Methody


    B0jangles wrote: »
    If you read the poll results you'll see that a further 35% support legalising abortion along the lines of the X case, leaving a minority (26%) in favour of a new referendum to exclude suicide as a possible reason to allow and abourtion, and only 8% opposed to abortion in all circumstances.

    But if you don't accept data as evidence, there's nothing much left to say, is there?

    So you're in favour of allowing sex-selective abortions? Nice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Methody wrote: »
    So you're in favour of allowing sex-selective abortions? Nice.

    Wow! A perfect 10 in Gymnastics for that!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Methody wrote: »
    So you're in favour of allowing sex-selective abortions? Nice.


    No, I'm in favour of Irish women being allowed to choose what happens to their own bodies - as they currently do if they have the means to travel to the U.K. and are well enough to do so.

    Ireland's regressive abortion law only prevents very ill or very poor women from deciding whether or not they wish to proceed with pregnancy.

    That's messed up.


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭Methody


    B0jangles wrote: »
    No, I'm in favour of Irish women being allowed to choose what happens to their own bodies - as they currently do if they have the means to travel to the U.K. and are well enough to do so.

    Ireland's regressive abortion law only prevents very ill or very poor women from deciding whether or not they wish to proceed with pregnancy.

    That's messed up.

    Ha! You're a contradiction in terms. Might as well add Down's syndrome and cleft palette to the catch-all that is "women being allowed to choose what happens to their own bodies".

    Would expect nothing better from a probort.

    Good afternoon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Methody wrote: »
    No politicians (save for the likes of Ivana Bacik) in this country are calling for abortion-on-demand.


    Do please tell me - what do you mean by "the likes of Ivana Bacik"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Methody wrote: »
    Ha! You're a contradiction in terms. Might as well add Down's syndrome and cleft palette to the catch-all that is "women being allowed to choose what happens to their own bodies".

    Would expect nothing better from a probort.

    Good afternoon.

    You maded a new word up! You get a star for that, well done!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    What do you expect from a strawmanning Nobort?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Nodin wrote: »
    Do please tell me - what do you mean by "the likes of Ivana Bacik"?

    Uppidy wimmin!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭TomoBhoy


    Methody wrote: »

    Ha! You're a contradiction in terms. Might as well add Down's syndrome and cleft palette to the catch-all that is "women being allowed to choose what happens to their own bodies".

    Would expect nothing better from a probort.

    Good afternoon.
    where would I start ?
    Maybe you should read a few stories from TFMR and their experiences
    i don't believe a womans sole purpose in life is to be an incubator and in the case of no viability outside the womb just carrying a baby for the funeral is a terrible thing to have to do.


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭Methody


    Down's Syndrome Ireland would be honoured to hear the opinions of you guys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Methody wrote: »
    Down's Syndrome Ireland would be honoured to hear the opinions of you guys.


    That's nice. Would you mind explaining what you mean by "the likes of Ivana Bacik"?


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭Methody


    Nodin wrote: »
    That's nice. Would you mind explaining what you mean by "the likes of Ivana Bacik"?

    Ivana Bacik is pro-abortion. Her opinions disgust me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Methody wrote: »
    Ivana Bacik is pro-abortion. Her opinions disgust me.


    Yes, well I'm sure some of yours wouldn't do her any favours either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Methody wrote: »
    Down's Syndrome Ireland would be honoured to hear the opinions of you guys.

    Why?
    Nobody is discussing euthanising those Down Syndrome, more gymnastics!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Methody wrote: »

    Ivana Bacik is pro-abortion. Her opinions disgust me.
    Why? Do you support forced pregnancy, regardless of the impact on a woman? Or are you pro choice, supporting termination in the cases where a woman will die if a pregnancy continues or other cases?


  • Site Banned Posts: 51 ✭✭Methody


    lazygal wrote: »
    Why? Do you support forced pregnancy, regardless of the impact on a woman? Or are you pro choice, supporting termination in the cases where a woman will die if a pregnancy continues or other cases?

    Any woman who wishes to kill her own flesh and blood needs help, not encouragement.

    FYI: Ivana Bacik is pro-abortion-on-demand. That includes aborting for any reason the mother wishes: Down's Syndrome, cleft palette, sex, lifestyle, financial, etc. Her opinions are disgusting.

    How she continues to get into the Oireachtas is beyond me. The woman needs to be outed from office. She is a left-wing extremist; a remnant of the feminist era, and has no place in civilised public life in Ireland of 2013.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Methody wrote: »
    FYI: Ivana Bacik is pro-abortion-on-demand. That includes aborting for any reason the mother wishes: Down's Syndrome, cleft palette, sex, lifestyle, financial, etc. Her opinions are disgusting. 2013.

    And 29% of the Irish population agree with her that the decision about whether to continue with a pregnancy should ultimately belong to the woman carrying that pregnancy.

    Yours is now a minority opinion, a minority which is shrinking in every poll that has been taken in the last 20 years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Methody wrote: »

    FYI: Ivana Bacik is pro-abortion-on-demand. That includes aborting for any reason the mother wishes: Down's Syndrome, cleft palette, sex, lifestyle, financial, etc. Her opinions are disgusting.

    How she continues to get into the Oireachtas is beyond me. The woman needs to be outed from office. She is a left-wing extremist; a remnant of the feminist era, and has no place in public life in Ireland of 2013.
    What's your position on abortion? I support abortion on demand and I'm glad my view is represented in parliament. Not everyone thinks like you, you know. Some of us feminists (its not an insult BTW) believe women should be able to have autonomy over our reproductive system. Like how men do. I want my daughter to be able to avail of an abortion in her own country should she so wish.


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