Dublin Bus Wan*ers

Jimmy Garlic · 12-01-2013 04:24AM

Dublin bus - transport for posh dinner jacket wearing asshats.

Annasopra · 12-01-2013 11:17AM

TheBikeGuy wrote: »

Far from it. 33000 euro a year is average for a dublin bus driver. Average industrial wage is about 24000/25000. Since your fond of your percentages that about 33% more :P lol

What now?

The average industrial wage is about 42,000!!!!!!!!!

http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/average-industrial-wage-in-ireland-576846-Aug2012/

Ghandee · 12-01-2013 12:26PM

Maybe he stopped the bus cause he 'had to wee-wee' ?

jonsnow · 12-01-2013 01:39PM

The public transport system in this country is a joke. The bus unions are threatening to strike if their very generous pay and conditions are cut even though the govt just gave them a €36 million emergency funds on top of their annual €278 million subsidy when the numbers using the services are plummeting. When paying customers are treated with such contempt it has to contribute to only people who have to using the services continuing to do so.

I have to say I have been amazed at the attacks on the OP who pointed out a ludicrous situation whereby a worker on the clock with passengers who need to go places (or they wouldn't be on that bus at that time otherwise) sees fit to get off and go to the shop for 10 minutes.

In Vancouver and Berlin (two cities in which I had to rely on the public transport system) buses run to the second and it would be beyond the comprehension of people living in that city that the bus driver who is paid very well to drive the bus would see fit to give himself unscheduled pit stops, fag breaks etc.In Ireland government institutions and semi states paid for by the taxpayer are run for the benefit of the employees with the needs of the public ranked a very distant second.This mindset has contributed massively to the mess the country is now in.

I don't understand the attacks on the poster.His occupation has nothing to do with his critique of DB which is valid and should stand or fall on its own merits.Students actually depend on public transport more than most.Most students I know also worked "in the real world" as well (when there were part-time jobs to be had) and if the OP has then he has paid doubly for the privilege for such a crappy service through his fare and his taxes.

The OP has stated that he is going to complain to the DB customer section which is actually the adult (if useless given the strength of the unionised workforce) way to lodge a complaint as opposed to getting in the bus drivers face which wouldn't achieve much especially if you are going to be seeing the guy every day for the foreseeable.The OP has a valid complaint here I,m sure there are bigger issues in the world and in the OPs life too but this is certainly a legitimate gripe by AH standards.

12-01-2013 01:43PM

TheBikeGuy wrote: »

You can see from the other comments that this isnt a isolated incident. And all you sarcastic posters are problaby lucky enough not to have to deal with this behaviour when your simple trying to go about your daily business. I doubt yous are paying 40% of your weekly income to commute and excuse me if i sound a little like Michael Douglas from falling down but its incredible annoying. Maybe I should just follow the typical Irish attitude of keeping my mouth shut and keep putting up with with whatever pathetic level of customer service I am lucky enough to receive. Grow up people, If no one ever holds poor performers to account they will never improve. No wonder this countries in a mess with people like you abusing someone for daring to questioning atrocious levels of customer service.

Exactly. In what other first world country is it normal for the bus driver to get off the bus, leave the passengers sitting their for ten minutes and come back after getting a few bits from the shop? Why should OP have walked or waited patiently? It wasn't a free lift, ffs, he had paid for the ticket! Some of the comments on here are so immature. God forbid anyone should ever complain about paying money for a sh1t service.

jonsnow · 12-01-2013 01:52PM

Damon Loud Vegetable wrote: »

Exactly. In what other first world country is it normal for the bus driver to get off the bus, leave the passengers sitting their for ten minutes and come back after getting a few bits from the shop? Why should OP have walked or waited patiently? It wasn't a free lift, ffs, he had paid for the ticket! Some of the comments on here are so immature. God forbid anyone should ever complain about paying money for a sh1t service.

Heh Damon Loud Vegetable great to see we are finally on agreement about something:D

Jester252 · 12-01-2013 01:55PM

The worst bus has to be JJ Limerick to Dublin. The change drivers every trip and the new guy is never on time. Most of the time they change the bus. The buses are never on time and I heard one of the drivers say that the timetable was made based on a trip at 4 a.m. They never have enought buses on and a coulpe of times I had to stand the longest being from UL to Roscrea. So glad I don't use that bus anymore.

wow sierra · 12-01-2013 01:58PM

TheBikeGuy wrote: »

Hi

Just had another blood boiling day with Dublin bus. Got the bus home from town and was nearing the end (im the final stop) when at the second last stop (near a supervalu) the bus driver turns off the engine after letting a few people off. He then comes upstairs and says he'l be back in a minute as he has to 'go in there'. HE then returns TEN minutes later (I timed (previous experience with DB))

He then finally completes the journey after hes good and ready.

Am I the only one who finds this pathetically amateurish? A well paid driver stopping to most likely do his personal shopping while transporting commuters?? Could any of you see this happening in another European country? Pathetic

Incredibly frustrating after a very long day. What planet are they living on??

This isnt my only bad experience with drivers, in fact its not even my first time with this experience as another driver pulled this exact stunt previously.

I calculate I'm paying 700euro a year on buses, ( a huge amount of money for me, 40% of my weekly cash (im a student)) and they act like this??

Especially while theres 400,000 unemployed who im sure would be very happy to be a bus driver.

Its time the government took a hard line with CIE as there drivers simply aren't up to the job at this stage, another case of strong unions protecting incapable workers

I'd love to hear your opinions

If you are a student I assume it is your Mammy who is paying the €700 a year in bus charges not you. When you have been 10 or 20 years in the workforce come back and criticise this guy. I am not here to defend all bus drivers but I reckon even the worst of them work harder than students. Could you not have used the 10 minutes to study your notes? Oh and out of this bus drivers average enough pay he also pays your college fees through his PAYE. Just saying.......

nbar12 · 12-01-2013 02:03PM

This happened to me not so long ago, there was a car crash and a big queue of cars at a standstill, the driver asked us did we want to make a diversion but would miss some bus stops but everyone agreed, we thought this was sound of him until he pulled up to a bus stop, shut off the engine and ran into a paddypower to make a bet, he came back around ten minutes later with a handful of betting slips with a chuffed face on him and some old lady asked him what he was playing at, he told her that he was doing us a favour by taking a diversion and that he had to make a bet for a "friend" before a race started

12-01-2013 02:04PM

wow sierra wrote: »

If you are a student I assume it is your Mammy who is paying the €700 a year in bus charges not you. When you have been 10 or 20 years in the workforce come back and criticise this guy. I am not here to defend all bus drivers but I reckon even the worst of them work harder than students. Could you not have used the 10 minutes to study your notes? Oh and out of this bus drivers average enough pay he also pays your college fees through his PAYE. Just saying.......

Why? I paid my own way through college and so did most people I know. And anyway, so what? Bus drivers work harder than students so that means sh1tty service is OK and OP has to put up with it because he's a student?

Wow.

CatFromHue · 12-01-2013 02:07PM

wow sierra wrote: »

If you are a student I assume it is your Mammy who is paying the €700 a year in bus charges not you. When you have been 10 or 20 years in the workforce come back and criticise this guy. I am not here to defend all bus drivers but I reckon even the worst of them work harder than students. Could you not have used the 10 minutes to study your notes? Oh and out of this bus drivers average enough pay he also pays your college fees through his PAYE. Just saying.......

Wow! Sierra!

miller50841 · 12-01-2013 02:11PM

This thread is so stupid who cares if the op was held for a few minutes what would he do if there was traffic or a crash or whatever that could have held him up for more time.
The way I look at things are sh1t happens and maybe the driver thought there was nobody left on the bus.

WhatNowForUs? · 12-01-2013 02:14PM

wow sierra wrote: »

If you are a student I assume it is your Mammy who is paying the €700 a year in bus charges not you. When you have been 10 or 20 years in the workforce come back and criticise this guy. I am not here to defend all bus drivers but I reckon even the worst of them work harder than students. Could you not have used the 10 minutes to study your notes? Oh and out of this bus drivers average enough pay he also pays your college fees through his PAYE. Just saying.......

What's your problem with students? Comes across as a very childish post.

miller50841 · 12-01-2013 02:16PM

WhatNowForUs? wrote: »

What's your problem with students? Comes across as a very childish post.

It's after hours so rip the pis* out of everything.;)

SparkySpitfire · 12-01-2013 02:21PM

What's this assumption that students don't hold jobs? You know every student in the country, yeah? Or did you never get to be one so you begrudge us?

Dublin Bus get away with murder and I am just after lodging my own complaint to them on a separate issue.

In all fairness OP, you're in the right, but you definitely posted in the wrong forum. Too many people waiting to rip the piss and argue for argument's sake.

PogMoThoin · 12-01-2013 02:31PM

It's not just in Ireland. Last Oct I waited for an 8.30 bus from Philly to NY. It was 20 mins late and then they announced that the driver has been driving for X amount of hours and must take a 20 min break

sfwcork · 12-01-2013 02:33PM

I woder what % of complaints to DB are from students?

Annasopra · 12-01-2013 02:36PM

PogMoThoin wrote: »

It's not just in Ireland. Last Oct I waited for an 8.30 bus from Philly to NY. It was 20 mins late and then they announced that the driver has been driving for X amount of hours and must take a 20 min break

Yeah and there'd be absolute murder if tired bus drivers caused crashes cause they don't get enough breaks. Sorry but moaning about health and safety is ridiculously stupid when the alternative to health and safety is lots of accidents

SparkySpitfire · 12-01-2013 02:37PM

sfwcork wrote: »

I woder what % of complaints to DB are from students?

I couldn't answer that, but the reasoning is perhaps because we are not as complacent as the rest of the lackadaisical population represented on this thread.

12-01-2013 02:37PM

PogMoThoin wrote: »

It's not just in Ireland. Last Oct I waited for an 8.30 bus from Philly to NY. It was 20 mins late and then they announced that the driver has been driving for X amount of hours and must take a 20 min break

That's not the same as a driver popping into the shop for a pint of milk or to chat to his mate.

SparkySpitfire · 12-01-2013 02:39PM

mango salsa wrote: »

Yeah and there'd be absolute murder if tired bus drivers caused crashes cause they don't get enough breaks. Sorry but moaning about health and safety is ridiculously stupid when the alternative to health and safety is lots of accidents

+1

This complaint is also totally different to the one the OP has, the bus driver in question here had himself and others in danger if he didn't take a break. They shouldn't have had the man driving for so long, every worker is entitled to breaks while working a certain period of time.

PogMoThoin · 12-01-2013 02:43PM

Damon Loud Vegetable wrote: »

That's not the same as a driver popping into the shop for a pint of milk or to chat to his mate.

Maybe he was required to take a break

repsol · 12-01-2013 02:44PM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

What's this assumption that students don't hold jobs? You know every student in the country, yeah? Or did you never get to be one so you begrudge us?

Dublin Bus get away with murder and I am just after lodging my own complaint to them on a separate issue.

In all fairness OP, you're in the right, but you definitely posted in the wrong forum. Too many people waiting to rip the piss and argue for argument's sake.

Its fairly obvious the OP does not work by his disclosure that 700 euros per year is 40% of all his money.You and the OP are not exactly shining examples of academic prowess if this thread is anything to go by.His mistakes have already been highlighted by others and you appear to be unable to read through a thread and pick up on an obvious piece of contradictory information without jumping in with both feet.I don't think anyone begrudges you being a student but as has been clearly shown the bar to becoming one is quite low.

davetherave · 12-01-2013 03:11PM

Since you seem fond of percentages; if a ten minute break is 25 % of a 40 minute bus journey, what percentage is 10 minutes of a full shift?

Gumbo · 12-01-2013 03:12PM

jonsnow wrote: »

I have to say I have been amazed at the attacks on the OP who pointed out a ludicrous situation whereby a worker on the clock with passengers who need to go places (or they wouldn't be on that bus at that time otherwise) sees fit to get off and go to the shop for 10 minutes..

The OP will not confirm that he seen bags of shopping after being asked directly a few times, so we have no proof that the driver was shopping. He may well just of been taking a pee.

Staff Infection · 12-01-2013 03:22PM

A mate of mine was getting the Bus Eireann bus up from Ballina to Dublin. Two stops into the journey the driver pulls over at a butchers and says he'll just be a minute. So he pops into the butchers and true to his word left a minute later with a plastic bag full of sausages, rashers etc. Then he hops into his seat and drives on up with no other odd stops. My mate thought it was gas and presumed he was going to do a fry for himself and the other drivers when he got to Dublin.
Moral of the story, just say how long you'll be if you're the driver. He said he'd only be a minute and he was so nobody minded at all, likewise if you'll be five minutes etc. as long as they're upfront about it, what harm sure they'll human at the end of the day with.......... needs the same as the rest of us.

jonsnow · 12-01-2013 03:23PM

repsol wrote: »

.I don't think anyone begrudges you being a student but as has been clearly shown the bar to becoming one is quite low.

Who are you kidding.From your earlier posts you obviously do begrudge the OP being a student and seem to believe that that somehow nullifies him being a paying customer with a right to expect reasonable service.

mconigol · 12-01-2013 03:25PM

Did the bus arrive on time or was is 10 minutes late?

If it was on time they you have nothing to complain about.

12-01-2013 03:27PM

TheBikeGuy wrote: »

Hi

Just had another blood boiling day with Dublin bus. Got the bus home from town and was nearing the end (im the final stop) when at the second last stop (near a supervalu) the bus driver turns off the engine after letting a few people off. He then comes upstairs and says he'l be back in a minute as he has to 'go in there'. HE then returns TEN minutes later (I timed (previous experience with DB))

He then finally completes the journey after hes good and ready.

Am I the only one who finds this pathetically amateurish? A well paid driver stopping to most likely do his personal shopping while transporting commuters?? Could any of you see this happening in another European country? Pathetic

Incredibly frustrating after a very long day. What planet are they living on??

This isnt my only bad experience with drivers, in fact its not even my first time with this experience as another driver pulled this exact stunt previously.

I calculate I'm paying 700euro a year on buses, ( a huge amount of money for me, 40% of my weekly cash (im a student)) and they act like this??

Especially while theres 400,000 unemployed who im sure would be very happy to be a bus driver.

Its time the government took a hard line with CIE as there drivers simply aren't up to the job at this stage, another case of strong unions protecting incapable workers

I'd love to hear your opinions

Ha ha ha was this man the driver by any chance?
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01115/varney-460_1115033c.jpg

mitosis · 12-01-2013 03:30PM

Driver was taken ill on the bus. Was one stop from home so, instead of emptying the bus and leaving passengers stranded or waiting for the next one, he went into a shop and got straightened out. No evidence he was "doing his shopping".

Hail to the bus driver who braved the storm in his pants to get his passengers to their destination, albeit a little late. Boo to the OP whose post is so self-obsessed he cannot see beyond a ten minute inconvenience.

Dublin Bus Wan*ers

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