Racist street performance

latenia wrote: »

Two Eastern Europeans according to an earlier poster. If you read the news at all you'll understand why that makes the racist aspect of this obvious.



I deliberately said African-American instead of black (which would also make me cringe) because they would perhaps lack the context that those resident here might have of knowing that these guys aren't native Irish. They might only be here for a few days and presume this kind of thing is normal rather than rare and finally the person being compared to an ape would make it especially hurtful.

Why does it mean its racist if the two guys are Eastern European?

You are complaining about racism but have no problem with stereotyping Eastern Europeans?

latenia wrote: »

Two Eastern Europeans according to an earlier poster. If you read the news at all you'll understand why that makes the racist aspect of this obvious.



I deliberately said African-American instead of black (which would also make me cringe) because they would perhaps lack the context that those resident here might have of knowing that these guys aren't native Irish. They might only be here for a few days and presume this kind of thing is normal rather than rare and finally the person being compared to an ape would make it especially hurtful.

Oh go away, you just hit so many nails of rascist thinking in that last post, (generalisation being my key word)

I will give you one twig though who seemed to be hurt by it, and that is you saying it was hurtful

latenia wrote: »

Two Eastern Europeans according to an earlier poster. If you read the news at all you'll understand why that makes the racist aspect of this obvious.



I deliberately said African-American instead of black (which would also make me cringe) because they would perhaps lack the context that those resident here might have of knowing that these guys aren't native Irish. They might only be here for a few days and presume this kind of thing is normal rather than rare and finally the person being compared to an ape would make it especially hurtful.

You have difficulty with describing someone as black, you associate black people with gorillas and you think all Eastern Europeans are racist.

And I'm sure you love to think that you are an open minded, tolerant person defending the poor oppressed races of the world. You are patronising to black people and racist to Eastern Europeans.

GoldenLight wrote: »

Are we not slightly leaning towards going off topic, everyones gentics are very similar to a gorillias. Which I guess begs the question if you where sitting by a gorillia what would you think people, where thinking about you?

Where the f*ck did Ush get that gorilla?

GoldenLight wrote: »

Are we now slightly leaning towards going off topic, everyones gentics are very similar to a gorillias.

Which I guess begs the question if you where sitting by a gorillia what would you think other people, would thinking about you?

If I was sitting beside a gorilla people would be thinking "who shaved that other gorilla?"

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

Bears sitting round a table smoking cigars and supping betterness.

I read that as, and I was going prity cute, and I would love to be a fly on the wall at that table, awwww so cute and lovely. Back on topic though time for someone to post the OP orginal post I do be thinking (shame really)


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Racist street performance
I was walking down Grafton Street this morning and spotted the usual activities on the street: musicians setting up and a few of those other performers. However one really got my attention. I had to do a double take when I saw this I haven't been down the street in a while so I don't know if this thing is a regular feature on Grafton street but to me it seemed quite a strange thing to have on the street. Firstly it seems overtly racist and secondly how do they expect people to give them money for doing this? It seemed quite unusual. Nobody others seemed to be paying much attention to it but thats often the case with these buskers that people ignore them. As far as I know buskers need permission to perform, I'm not sure if that applies to non music acts but it seems completely inappropriate to me.
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GoldenLight wrote: »

I read that as, and I was going prity cute, and I would love to be a fly on the wall at that table, awwww so cute and lovely. Back on topic though time for someone to post the OP orginal post I do be thinking (shame really)


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Racist street performance
I was walking down Grafton Street this morning and spotted the usual activities on the street: musicians setting up and a few of those other performers. However one really got my attention. I had to do a double take when I saw this I haven't been down the street in a while so I don't know if this thing is a regular feature on Grafton street but to me it seemed quite a strange thing to have on the street. Firstly it seems overtly racist and secondly how do they expect people to give them money for doing this? It seemed quite unusual. Nobody others seemed to be paying much attention to it but thats often the case with these buskers that people ignore them. As far as I know buskers need permission to perform, I'm not sure if that applies to non music acts but it seems completely inappropriate to me.
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Sorry to make you post off topic to the in topic, the rest of your post has no gaps, I need some more wine to break it up.

Armelodie wrote: »

BTW... And back on AH topic...."Could someone please think of the swans"... Those poor swans that are getting so scarce on grafton street...(I noticed a poster mentioned the guys were eastern european)

Not to mention the African-American lamp post with a tatoo on it's chest....will Dublin City Council have to rethink their attitude to painting street-furniture ?

Difference Engine wrote: »

Two people dressed up, sitting there not doing much and no one understands what's going on.

That's just called a sh!t street performance.

Even if they were trying to offend someone they have failed miserably. What's the story with the Gestapo coats?

Are you thinkin what I'm thinkin?

wonderfulname wrote: »

For the people who don't understand why this could be considered racist; http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/index.html

Even if unintentional it is unacceptable and fairly stupid on the part of the "performers", I know people who would have a pretty violent reaction to seeing that.

Only a lunatic would have a violent reaction to something which may not be intended as racist without first working out if it is intended that way or not. Add idiot to lunatic.

wonderfulname wrote: »

For the people who don't understand why this could be considered racist; http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/index.html

Even if unintentional it is unacceptable and fairly stupid on the part of the "performers", I know people who would have a pretty violent reaction to seeing that.

And they would be wrong to react violently because they misinterpreted something.

You can't say something is unacceptable because someone gets upset over it without taking the time to inform themselves what it means.

This could be anything from (poor admittedly) street performance to a political protest.

Its not fair to expect others to curb their freedom of expression because of one persons uninformed opinions.

wonderfulname wrote: »

For the people who don't understand why this could be considered racist; http://www.authentichistory.com/diversity/african/3-coon/6-monkey/index.html

Even if unintentional it is unacceptable and fairly stupid on the part of the "performers", I know people who would have a pretty violent reaction to seeing that.

Fair Enough, so do I, and they would be very silly in reacting to something we have no idea , of what was really happening from a pic, as I pointed out we have a picture, somebody asked if it was racist, I'm assume myself that it was satire, others are automatically assuming it's racist, throwing in the racist card based on a picture, makes your assumption that gorillia and people who are tanned are actually linked (what is that about?)

As I said before maybe that is what the performers where implying and they where successful, because you just implied that.