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Gambling problem in Ireland

  • 11-01-2013 05:24PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭


    Ok so I done a quick search on this and there's threads from 5 years ago so I decided to start another one.

    Has anyone noticed how crazy Ireland has gone on gambling?

    I gamble on a regular basis (once or twice a week) on football. When I first started gambling I would back horses, dogs, virtuals etc.

    I quickly realised how dangerous it was to get caught up in so I stopped gambling on all sports except football, which I wouldn't spend more than 10e a week on.

    I know people who gamble all their wages on a regular basis and borrow money just to gamble. Now thats their own business but recently i've noticed a lot of the bookmakers shops that have kids (15+) in them placing bets.

    Also you can't walk 100 yards through town without walking past a bookies, arcade or a casino.

    My main problem with all this is that its too easy to get caught up in a gambling addiction, especially when people will eventually turn to crime to feed their addiction.

    Does anyone else think that Ireland has gone overboard with gambling?


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Fishooks13


    If you're stupid enough to gamble more than you can afford you don't deserve the money anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    I say this from costly experience: A gambling addiction is the addicts own fault. If they have the money to gamble they need to think before handing it over. There's no-one else to blame, try as they might.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I bet you there isn't any gambling problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭gobnaitolunacy


    Get this: the house always wins.
    Bookies aren't charities.

    I just ignore them. I did dabble with a roulette wheel in a casino once, made a few small wins.
    Had another go and back to square one and walked away.

    Edit: I think it's worse in Australia, its really in your face there, seemed like everyone betted on the AFL in the pubs.
    And massive fcuk off casinos, not the little farty ones like here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    Confab wrote: »
    I say this from costly experience: A gambling addiction is the addicts own fault. If they have the money to gamble they need to think before handing it over. There's no-one else to blame, try as they might.

    I know what you mean but surely making it so easy to gamble isnt helping, having casinos open all night and bookies on every corner etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭rgmmg


    If I woke up tomorrow and no one could gamble I wouldn't grumble. If nothing else, it would get horse racing off the tv!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    I started to get the shakes christmas day because the bookies
    was closed.

    Luckily l talked my granny into a game of texas holdem and all was grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,060 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    I know plenty who gamble, but only know of one person who had gambling problems. He ran up tons of debt by using about 20 credit cards and skipped the country. Nobody knows where he is now.

    Online gambling can be dangerously easy to get into, but the online gambling firms only facilitate it. It's up to the person who makes the bets to hand their money over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Hippies!


    Caveman1 wrote: »
    I know what you mean but surely making it so easy to gamble isnt helping, having casinos open all night and bookies on every corner etc.

    Actually it helps quite a bit, makes life so much more convenient :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I bet you there isn't any gambling problems.

    It was a dead cert that someone was going to say that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Caveman1 wrote: »
    I know what you mean but surely making it so easy to smoke isn't helping, having shops/kiosks/vending machines open all night and shops selling cigarettes on every corner etc.

    Tbh you could apply the same analogy to smoking...

    Is it up to the state to step in and regulate people's lives to such a degree?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod


    Caveman1 wrote: »
    .

    Does anyone else think that Ireland has gone overboard with gambling?

    Gone to the dogs so it has. Seriously though, titty bars would be a lot less of a problem. They'd create more jobs and we'd have less people littering the street with betting slips.

    We need a titty bar campaign. Who's with me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    I know plenty who gamble, but only know of one person who had gambling problems. He ran up tons of debt by using about 20 credit cards and skipped the country. Nobody knows where he is now.

    Online gambling can be dangerously easy to get into, but the online gambling firms only facilitate it. It's up to the person who makes the bets to hand their money over.

    The thing is though, not every person with a gambling problem is going to tell you, more times or not you'd never expect it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    pithater1 wrote: »
    Tbh you could apply the same analogy to smoking...

    Is it up to the state to step in and regulate people's lives to such a degree?

    Suppose thats true but as bad as smoking is, I don't think you'd have people out stealing just to get 20 smokes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    My brother works in the Paddy Power call centre, he once had a customer place a €15k bet on a horse race, he lost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    My brother works in the Paddy Power call centre, he once had a customer place a €15k bet on a horse race, he lost.

    I'm sure someone like that must have a lot of money to be able to do bets like that. Although it could be someone just using a credit card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    Caveman1 wrote: »
    Suppose thats true but as bad as smoking is, I don't think you'd have people out stealing just to get 20 smokes.

    I think the sort of people who go out steeling are feeding a different sort of habit than gambling .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    Outside of my work, the next six doors are pub-bookie-pub-bookie-shop-pub.

    I never go into the shop, there's always some eejit buying scratchcards.

    There are always the same people hanging outside the bars/bookies.

    If I was Paddy Power I'd by lobbying to allow bookies to sell alcohol, you could run the bar at a loss but then you've got a completely captive audience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,291 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    My brother works in the Paddy Power call centre, he once had a customer place a €15k bet on a horse race, he lost.

    Which means he had 15k in his account. So its his money to lose...

    There's certainly a gambling culture in Ireland. I don't see it as a problem. People with addictive personalities will find something else to latch on to and I don't think we should take away something that millions enjoy responsibly (and provides thousands with employment) to appease them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    robbie1977 wrote: »
    I think the sort of people who go out steeling are feeding a different sort of habit than gambling .

    Not necessarily true, I'm sure someone who has lost all their wages and needs to pay bill, rent etc would contemplate stealing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Caveman1 wrote: »
    I know people who gamble all their wages on a regular basis

    How many?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    It was a dead cert that someone was going to say that.


    I'd have thought there was an evens chance at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    Dodge wrote: »
    Which means he had 15k in his account. So its his money to lose...

    There's certainly a gambling culture in Ireland. I don't see it as a problem. People with addictive personalities will find something else to latch on to and I don't think we should take away something that millions enjoy responsibly (and provides thousands with employment) to appease them

    I wouldn't be in favour of completely banning gambling, the main problem I have with it is the amount of young people you now see in bookies & casinos. I'd be more in favour of just having certain times you can open up, and not having places open 24/7.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    This thread has reminded me about gambling.

    Just stuck a few bets on the Oscars, the football and the Spanish U-21 handball championships.

    I wasn't using that 2k in my savings account anyway, it might as well be out in the world earning me money!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    How many?

    I know quite a few, I used to work in a pub so I'd see people gambling all their money every day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    i actually enjoy horse racing and betting on them, if im bored on a weekday off work ill always check the racing, id never never gamble more than i could afford though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,278 ✭✭✭x43r0


    Homer:Remember when I let that escaped lunatic in the house 'cause he
    was dressed like Santa Claus?
    Marge: Hmm.
    Homer: Well, that's nothing, because YOU have a gambling problem!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭SirDelboy18


    I'll throw something serious in here.

    Very dangerous addiction because there are no obvious physical ill effects. With a drug addict you can tell, with an alcoholic you can tell - Gambling addiction can easily go very unnoticed.

    It is also the only addiction where a person thinks doing it more is the only way to stop.

    In addition, it is much easier to do than other vices with various shops, lotterys, online betting etc.

    The gamblers own fault it may be, but it is easy to be so judgmental.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    I feel so sorry for anyone with a gambling problem.

    Not just the bookies or casino scene either. It's very easy to play online now. And harder to detect, no smell of alcohol, tell tail sign of drugs.

    Hopefully none of your families are ever touched by the destructiveness of gambling because its horrifically addictive and very hard to beat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Caveman1


    I'll throw something serious in here.

    Very dangerous addiction because there are no obvious physical ill effects. With a drug addict you can tell, with an alcoholic you can tell - Gambling addiction can easily go very unnoticed.

    It is also the only addiction where a person thinks doing it more is the only way to stop.

    In addition, it is much easier to do than other vices with various shops, lotterys, online betting etc.

    The gamblers own fault it may be, but it is easy to be so judgmental.

    Exactly, there's only so much drink someone can have or drugs someone can take, but if a gambler has access to funds he could gamble till there's nothing left.

    I actually seen a doc about gambling in Las Vegas, Theres people who leave their jobs on Friday afternoon & drive straight to Vegas to gamble non-stop till Monday morning when they're back in work.


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