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Israel_Dagg · 10-01-2013 09:06PM

BusyMum12 wrote: »

Fat women are unattractive and not 'curvy' - they're fat.

Find me a quote where the opposite is said.

Madam_X · 10-01-2013 09:15PM

Israel_Dagg wrote: »

Find me a quote where the opposite is said.

Oh it's said all right on those naff women's magazines like Take A Break, and you know those Facebook quotes and updates about "real women", and then shows like Loose Women. But these hardly represent society in general. Most people know the above stuff is just deluded silliness.
I'm not referring to women who have just a bit of extra weight by the way, but having stones to lose isn't anything to celebrate.

Czarcasm · 10-01-2013 09:16PM

Israel_Dagg wrote: »

Find me a quote where the opposite is said.

NSFW: Article contains pictures of naked ladies, morbidly obese naked ladies. Don't say you weren't warned!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4707120/Photographers-uses-obese-models-for-new-collection.html#ixzz2FgtRI1sn

faccid · 10-01-2013 09:16PM

My OH won't be breast feeding and thats for sure. I wouldn't take the chance! I'd rather she got c section but thats up to docs I guess.

Israel_Dagg · 10-01-2013 09:16PM

Madam_X wrote: »

Oh it's said all right on those naff women's magazines like Take A Break, and you know those Facebook quotes and updates about "real women", and then shows like Loose Women. But these hardly represent society in general. Most people know the above stuff is just deluded silliness.
I'm not referring to women who have just a bit of extra weight by the way, but having stones to lose isn't anything to celebrate.

I agree.

But I don't think the majority of people describe obese people as curvy. Hence his opinion wouldn't be an unpopular one. :pac:

GLaDOS · 10-01-2013 09:19PM

This is curvy

Czarcasm · 10-01-2013 09:23PM

Israel_Dagg wrote: »

But I don't think the majority of people describe obese people as curvy. Hence his opinion wouldn't be an unpopular one. :pac:

BusyMum12 wrote: »

Fat women are unattractive and not 'curvy' - they're fat.

BusyMum is a "he" now? That's certainly going to be an unpopular opinion!

NegativeCreep · 10-01-2013 09:30PM

ScienceNerd wrote: »

This is curvy

And airbrushed to bits. I'd say in real life she's less than impressive.

Czarcasm · 10-01-2013 09:32PM

faccid wrote: »

My OH won't be breast feeding and thats for sure. I wouldn't take the chance! I'd rather she got c section but thats up to docs I guess.

faccid you have some seriously strange ideas!

When you have half an hour to spare, I'd suggest you inform yourself-

http://www.breastfeedingbasics.com/articles/breastfeeding-after-a-cesarean

1ZRed · 10-01-2013 09:37PM

faccid wrote: »

My OH won't be breast feeding and thats for sure. I wouldn't take the chance! I'd rather she got c section but thats up to docs I guess.

What chance? I wouldn't worry unless your OH had HIV that she could pass on through it. Breast feeding is far better for the baby in terms of nutrition, bonding and developing their immune system.

Cienciano · 10-01-2013 09:49PM

faccid wrote: »

Bottle feedimg is best opotion. Why should the women ruin her boobs when she can just bottle. Man happy, baby happy and mammy doesn't need to wear clothes during sex to cover saggy boobs. Win win

I'd say either your trolling or an ignorant 16 years old with that opinion.
And women lose baby fat really quickly if they breast feed

PopePalpatine · 10-01-2013 09:54PM

I'm totally OK with abortion-on-demand, up to 18 weeks.

BusyMum12 · 10-01-2013 10:02PM

Didn't Dove have to withdraw one of their 'Real women' ad campaigns. They were criticised for using overweight women to promote their beauty products while marketing them as 'real', 'curvy' etc.
If I were to call any of those women unattractive it would be an unpopular opinion, among women anyway. Trust me!

@the poster who said they didn't want their OH breast feeding. Breast feeding is the best method of feeding for mum and baby but will also save YOU doing nightfeeds, washing, sterilising and preparing bottles.
A c-section is major abdominal surgery. She will not be able to lift, bend or drive for several weeks. You might want to think about that too

mark renton · 10-01-2013 10:10PM

PopePalpatine wrote: »

I'm totally OK with abortion-on-demand, up to 18 weeks.

For others or yourself?

PopePalpatine · 10-01-2013 10:13PM

mark renton wrote: »

For others or yourself?

Considering that I'm a man, the former.

faccid · 10-01-2013 10:22PM

Cienciano wrote: »

I'd say either your trolling or an ignorant 16 years old with that opinion.
And women lose baby fat really quickly if they breast feed

It's called unpopular opinions for a reason. I was just sharing my thoughts. Maybe my opinion will change in the future, who knows. If u don't like my opinions then start a popluar opinion thread and I won't post there!

Czarcasm · 10-01-2013 10:29PM

BusyMum12 wrote: »

Didn't Dove have to withdraw one of their 'Real women' ad campaigns. They were criticised for using overweight women to promote their beauty products while marketing them as 'real', 'curvy' etc.
If I were to call any of those women unattractive it would be an unpopular opinion, among women anyway. Trust me!

I knew about the campaign to have one of their adverts withdrawn on the grounds of subliminal racial stereotyping, but I hadn't known about the overweight women one!

Some more interesting info here-

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dove_Campaign_for_Real_Beauty

The campaign has been criticized on the grounds that Unilever also produces Fair and Lovely, a skin-lightening product marketed at dark-skinned women in several countries. It was also widely noted that Unilever brand Lynx's advertising campaign would seemingly contradict the sentiment of the Campaign for Real Beauty.

Moreover, Unilever owns and markets their AXE brand of hygiene products, where overtly sexualized women are its campaigning staple. This strategy is starkly hypocritical in contrast to Dove's campaign for "Real Beauty", as AXE utilizes "idealized" female sexuality to market AXE products towards young men.

Cienciano · 10-01-2013 10:30PM

faccid wrote: »

It's called unpopular opinions for a reason. I was just sharing my thoughts. Maybe my opinion will change in the future, who knows. If u don't like my opinions then start a popluar opinion thread and I won't post there!

It's also a discussion forum and people can disagree with your opinion if they think its idiotic.

faccid · 10-01-2013 10:44PM

Cienciano wrote: »

It's also a discussion forum and people can disagree with your opinion if they think its idiotic.

Lets just agree to disagree.

mix_up · 10-01-2013 10:48PM

pensioners have unjustly been shielded since the rescession began and are over indulged , the latest is this nonesense about them having to buy their own house alarms , big deal i say , thats what money is for , spend it

im watching a discussion on newsnight right now about how britian spends too much on pensioners , the old age pension in the uk is half what the elderly get here , its 102 pound per week for a single person and 169 for a couple , here its 230 for a single person and 460 for a couple

Madam_X · 10-01-2013 11:38PM

Whatever about younger pensioners, most elderly people deserve protection and appreciation. We'll all be them one day - find it strange when people decades younger than them have a problem with provisions for them. No empathy at all.

faccid wrote: »

My OH won't be breast feeding and thats for sure. I wouldn't take the chance!

"You'd" rather not take what chance? What if she wants to? Her choice surely.

mix_up · 10-01-2013 11:44PM

Madam_X wrote: »

Whatever about younger pensioners, most elderly people deserve protection and appreciation. We'll all be them one day - find it strange when people decades younger than them have a problem with provisions for them. No empathy at all.

"You'd" rather not take what chance? What if she wants to? Her choice surely.

do you think a thirty something in 2013 will unconditionally recieve what those in their late sixties and seventies get today ?

they wont

ninety thousand pensioners are on the non contributory ( 219 per week ) , they concievabley never paid any contribution during their working lives

even those on the contributory will draw down farm more than they put in , the threshold for prsi payments was very low and only needed to be paid for a relativley short number of years

mackg · 11-01-2013 12:01AM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

And airbrushed to bits. I'd say in real life she's less than impressive.

Definitely. If they need a hot girl in a T.V. show they use one that isn't that hot. Then if they need a girl that isn't that hot they usually just tape a bunch of cats together.

Czarcasm · 11-01-2013 12:23AM

mix_up wrote: »

pensioners have unjustly been shielded since the rescession began and are over indulged , the latest is this nonesense about them having to buy their own house alarms , big deal i say , thats what money is for , spend it

im watching a discussion on newsnight right now about how britian spends too much on pensioners , the old age pension in the uk is half what the elderly get here , its 102 pound per week for a single person and 169 for a couple , here its 230 for a single person and 460 for a couple

Mmhmm... The BBC clearly haven't done their homework again. I knew those figures didn't sound right-

Single person state pension in Ireland: €92 - €230 p/w, depending on how many PRSI contributions they've made.

Additional dependents: €61 - €153 p/w

So that'd be a max of €383 for a couple, both over 66, by my calculations. That's a long way short of €460.

Source: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/older_and_retired_people/state_pension_contributory.html

The UK system works way differently, but the least you'll get as a single person is £142 p/w, and a couple will get £217.

Source: https://www.gov.uk/pension-credit/what-youll-get

That's not even taking into account the vast economic differences between Ireland and the UK, nor the additional benefits available to pensioners in both countries, but suffice to say I for one wouldn't deny them a cent nor a penny, plus I find it a ridiculous anomaly that if you are a single pensioner you are entitled to an alarm installation, but a pensioner couple is not entitled to an alarm installation even though they would be just as vulnerable.

Czarcasm · 11-01-2013 12:33AM

mix_up wrote: »

do you think a thirty something in 2013 will unconditionally recieve what those in their late sixties and seventies get today ?

they wont

ninety thousand pensioners are on the non contributory ( 219 per week ) , they concievabley never paid any contribution during their working lives

even those on the contributory will draw down farm more than they put in , the threshold for prsi payments was very low and only needed to be paid for a relativley short number of years

You may want to check those figures again. It was all re-jigged in the 2013 budget.

Paddy Cow · 11-01-2013 12:52AM

faccid wrote: »

Bottle feedimg is best opotion. Why should the women ruin her boobs when she can just bottle. Man happy, baby happy and mammy doesn't need to wear clothes during sex to cover saggy boobs. Win win

Madam_X wrote: »

Breastmilk is considered the most beneficial form of sustenance for a newborn, and if a mother can provide it (a lot of women find it too difficult/painful - but yay, at least their boobs stay looking good... ish... after the effect of pregnancy and birth on them) she's going to be more concerned about her newborn baby's diet than how her boobs look. Crazy, I know.
Women often express their breastmilk into bottles for feeds later on but they're not always going to have the time and energy to perform that rather gruelling and longwinded task, so instead... just lob it in. Handy when you haven't had a proper sleep in weeks.

Breastmilk is better than formula milk, no questions there but breastfeeding is not always the better option. Plenty of mothers struggle to breastfeed, have PND, find it easier if other people can take turns feeding the baby etc. The fanatical stances both sides take is really mind boggling. If you breastfeed, brilliant. Don't expect a medal. You still have roughly 18 years to get through before your little bundle of joy becomes an emotionally stable, functioning member of society and breastfeeding isn't the only thing you are going to have to do. If you don't breastfeed, it's not the end of the world. Feeding your child formula milk is not like forcing battery acid down their throats. They will survive, unless they are allergic and you still have other options. BTW, the happy medium where women express milk doesn't always work either. Don't sweat it. If the breastappo give you a hard time, tell them to mind their own business. If you do manage to raise an emotionally secure, productive member of society, whether or not you breastfeed or bottle feed them, well done

faccid · 11-01-2013 12:57AM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Breastmilk is better than formula milk, no questions there but breastfeeding is not always the better option. Plenty of mothers struggle to breastfeed, have PND, find it easier if other people can take turns feeding the baby etc. The fanatical stances both sides take is really mind boggling. If you breastfeed, brilliant. Don't expect a medal. You still have roughly 18 years to get through before your little bundle of joy becomes an emotionally stable, functioning member of society and breastfeeding isn't the only thing you are going to have to do. If you don't breastfeed, it's not the end of the world. Feeding your child formula milk is not like forcing battery acid down their throats. They will survive, unless they are allergic and you still have other options. BTW, the happy medium where women express milk doesn't always work either. Don't sweat it. If the breastappo give you a hard time, tell them to mind their own business. If you do manage to raise an emotionally secure, productive member of society, whether or not you breastfeed or bottle feed them, well done

You are awesome. Said what I wanted but in a good way

Madam_X · 11-01-2013 07:14AM

faccid wrote: »

You are awesome. Said what I wanted but in a good way

You said nothing of the sort - all you went on about was the woman keeping her boobs looking good for her fella...

Paddy Cow, I acknowledged there are women who are unable to breastfeed and that there's nothing wrong with that.
But if a woman wants to breastfeed and is able for it, but her partner won't "allow" her because it'll ruin her boobs? Wo... disturbing.

mikemac1 · 11-01-2013 07:25AM

The Tom Cruise haters can feck off

Saw his new film and he is still the man :cool:

But he's a creep? But his religion?
I'm watching the actor, you must be buying celebrity magazines and gossiping in the hairdressers if you care about such things

faccid · 11-01-2013 07:29AM

Madam_X wrote: »

You said nothing of the sort - all you went on about was the woman keeping her boobs looking good for her fella...

Paddy Cow, I acknowledged there are women who are unable to breastfeed and that there's nothing wrong with that.
But if a woman wants to breastfeed and is able for it, but her partner won't "allow" her because it'll ruin her boobs? Wo... disturbing.

Sshh

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