Company wins their own Facebook competition

Dodge · 09-01-2013 02:17PM

swiftman wrote: »

what if a guy wanted to set up time and date to get an engagement ring, he'd do it threw private mail, or if someone want to get necklace for the women he was having an affair with.
i think people would use it and with that the company would break private laws giving her admin to the page

Of course he could do it, but for stuff like engagement rings, do you not think he'd rather use 'regular' email or simply telephone them?

I'm sure most would, but as I said earlier its obviously possible that facebook is used that way

Biggins · 09-01-2013 02:25PM

Seems the word has spread of an attempted possible con:

* http://fecktv.com/skillens-fak-competition-revealed-through-facebook/

* http://loveniamh.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/how-not-to-run-a-social-media-competition-skillens-jewellers/

* http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=58415075

* http://panicdots.com/2013/01/skillens-of-castlewellan-win-their-own-competition-massive-fail/

* http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?p=13625249#13625249

Even on the David Icke's forum (yep, THAT nut-job!):
* http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232738

Madam_X · 09-01-2013 02:46PM

Deleted User wrote: »

"Marketing experts" who advise on running such competitions? The competitions are run against facebook's rules for a start so any "marketing expert" suggesting such a competition straightaway isn't too worried about things being done properly.

I was referring to competitions in general, not just Facebook ones. To be fair, many people LOVE when stuff like this happens (a few have even said so on this thread) so claims that it happens all the time is partially based on wanting it to happen all the time.
It does happen though - I'm not disputing that; it would be silly to. It's irritating though when people are just cynical for the sake of it and decide so, so many competitions aren't legit. There aren't THAT many ***** in the world. Despite the claims of "People are assholes wa wa wa" how many of us know lots and lots of truly horrible people?

Morph the Cat · 09-01-2013 04:13PM

Madam_X wrote: »

Why? In fairness I don't believe it *never* happens but to believe... with no evidence and just for the sake of being a malcontent, that it happens really regularly... what's the point of that? Just smacks of teenage "Man, all businesses are out to get us" kinda thinking. Real "edgy" stuff.

Another one:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Country-Belle-Boutique/264172237019502?fref=ts

And another:
http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/05/04/so-how-did-7-ups-minister-for-the-craic-competition-go/

And these are just ones that have been busted for it.

johnwest288 · 09-01-2013 04:19PM

Biggins wrote: »

Seems the word has spread of an attempted possible con:

* http://fecktv.com/skillens-fak-competition-revealed-through-facebook/

* http://loveniamh.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/how-not-to-run-a-social-media-competition-skillens-jewellers/

* http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=58415075

* http://panicdots.com/2013/01/skillens-of-castlewellan-win-their-own-competition-massive-fail/

* http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?p=13625249#13625249

Even on the David Icke's forum (yep, THAT nut-job!):
* http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232738

not sure how to embed sorry...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NMGsRmZTFQ

ThreeLineWhip · 09-01-2013 04:45PM

Police are now investigating.

BobLoblaw77 · 09-01-2013 05:49PM

Nice to see they are dealing with the real issues on our streets..

Allyall · 09-01-2013 05:49PM

ThreeLineWhip wrote: »

Police are now investigating.

Are they?

EDIT. Removed blurb..

It would be easy enough to prove i'd imagine..

Morph the Cat wrote: »

Another one:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Country-Belle-Boutique/264172237019502?fref=ts

And another:
http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/05/04/so-how-did-7-ups-minister-for-the-craic-competition-go/

And these are just ones that have been busted for it.

7up Free cheated? Or a guy marketing the comp?

runawaybishop · 09-01-2013 06:12PM

BobLoblaw77 wrote: »

Nice to see they are dealing with the real issues on our streets..

I heard a rapist was released without charge due to the police investigating this.

ronan45 · 09-01-2013 06:42PM

ThreeLineWhip wrote: »

Police are now investigating.

Excellent news. Nothing like a bit or Retribution :cool:
Heads NEED to ROLL

*Grabs popcorn and becomes overcome with Smugness*

mikom · 09-01-2013 06:44PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

I heard a rapist was released without charge due to the police investigating this.

Yeah, he made a large cash donation to the victim.......

Lyaiera · 09-01-2013 06:53PM

There's often irregularities in competitions like this, but moreso due to incompetence than outright fraud.

A lot of the time the winners of big competitions will be decided by someone on staff with the business. When these competitions are things like, "Tell us a joke/tell us a time you were embarrassed" the people who win are the biggest fans of the business and have some social connections with the place. That's because the person who wins will know enough about the people picking the winners that their humour or storytelling works for the person picking the winner. It happened all the time with gaming magazines. The guys who'd turn up to the magazines parties and talk to the staff on forums always ended up the winners because they knew what the writers were looking for. And often it wasn't even a deliberate attempt to do that, it was just because they themselves were influenced by the magazine writers' writing and aped it. This is why it's recommended a third party judges the winner.

Another example is with really low-level competitions with relatively unimportant prizes. The word gets out, there's a bit of advertising of the competition done, but no-one could give a crap about the competition or the prize. So the only people who actually enter the competition are the hardcore fans who are probably involved with the business.

There's also a bit of psychology involved. For years big competitions had a "Tell us in 15 words why..." And there are people who enter every competition they can to win any prize. A few people would always enter tonnes of competitions and they'd often come out as winners. And part of that is that there were books dedicated to how to win those tie-breakers. Explaining what judges and businesses were looking for from a marketing perspective, what they'd want from a 15 word sentence when they go to publish it.

Another example is in office raffles at company parties and that. The person organising the raffle tells the hired DJ, the hired DJ forgets to pick a winner, and they just decide to give it to the first straggler they pass at the end of the night. And the people usually left hanging around are the people waiting for the person who organised the party to be free.

Loads of competitions end up dodgy, but often it's not maliciousness or fraud that causes it, rather incompetence.

MadsL · 09-01-2013 07:40PM

This thread lacks the necessary brand new account posting support for the company that gets outed as the son of the owner.

Therefore thread disappoints.

Madam_X · 09-01-2013 08:09PM

Lyaiera wrote: »

There's often irregularities in competitions like this, but moreso due to incompetence than outright fraud.

A lot of the time the winners of big competitions will be decided by someone on staff with the business. When these competitions are things like, "Tell us a joke/tell us a time you were embarrassed" the people who win are the biggest fans of the business and have some social connections with the place. That's because the person who wins will know enough about the people picking the winners that their humour or storytelling works for the person picking the winner. It happened all the time with gaming magazines. The guys who'd turn up to the magazines parties and talk to the staff on forums always ended up the winners because they knew what the writers were looking for. And often it wasn't even a deliberate attempt to do that, it was just because they themselves were influenced by the magazine writers' writing and aped it. This is why it's recommended a third party judges the winner.

Another example is with really low-level competitions with relatively unimportant prizes. The word gets out, there's a bit of advertising of the competition done, but no-one could give a crap about the competition or the prize. So the only people who actually enter the competition are the hardcore fans who are probably involved with the business.

There's also a bit of psychology involved. For years big competitions had a "Tell us in 15 words why..." And there are people who enter every competition they can to win any prize. A few people would always enter tonnes of competitions and they'd often come out as winners. And part of that is that there were books dedicated to how to win those tie-breakers. Explaining what judges and businesses were looking for from a marketing perspective, what they'd want from a 15 word sentence when they go to publish it.

Another example is in office raffles at company parties and that. The person organising the raffle tells the hired DJ, the hired DJ forgets to pick a winner, and they just decide to give it to the first straggler they pass at the end of the night. And the people usually left hanging around are the people waiting for the person who organised the party to be free.

Loads of competitions end up dodgy, but often it's not maliciousness or fraud that causes it, rather incompetence.

Spot on. Of course there's unscrupulousness out there, but the whole world of business isn't out to get us.

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Cungi · 09-01-2013 08:31PM

The most important question is why has Lynda got a face like a slapped arse?

ThreeLineWhip · 09-01-2013 08:39PM

Cungi wrote: »

The most important question is why has Lynda got a face like a slapped arse?

Indeed, for someone who has just won a £2000 ring she does not look very happy.

bigbluesquid · 10-01-2013 02:16PM

Some of the articles saying Skillens committed fraud are starting to be withdrawn. Apparently someone also posted the winners details like home address and phone number so the police had to get involved but she didn't work for Skillens after all. Still a whopper of an admin / communication mess though.

ThreeLineWhip · 10-01-2013 02:20PM

bigbluesquid wrote: »

Some of the articles saying Skillens committed fraud are starting to be withdrawn. Apparently someone also posted the winners details like home address and phone number so the police had to get involved but she didn't work for Skillens after all. Still a whopper of an admin / communication mess though.

Surprised it took so long for a company person to create a new account just to say it is not their fault.

Police are involved for different reasons.

ITS_A_BADGER · 10-01-2013 02:26PM

MadsL wrote: »

This thread lacks the necessary brand new account posting support for the company that gets outed as the son of the owner.

Therefore thread disappoints.

bigbluesquid wrote: »

Some of the articles saying Skillens committed fraud are starting to be withdrawn. Apparently someone also posted the winners details like home address and phone number so the police had to get involved but she didn't work for Skillens after all. Still a whopper of an admin / communication mess though.

*cough*

TheUsual · 10-01-2013 02:27PM

Cungi wrote: »

The most important question is why has Lynda got a face like a slapped arse?

Like a bulldog chewing a wasp.

Dodge · 10-01-2013 02:28PM

bigbluesquid wrote: »

Some of the articles saying Skillens committed fraud are starting to be withdrawn. Apparently someone also posted the winners details like home address and phone number so the police had to get involved but she didn't work for Skillens after all. Still a whopper of an admin / communication mess though.

First post or did you press the wrong button?

mikom · 10-01-2013 02:28PM

bigbluesquid wrote: »

Some of the articles saying Skillens committed fraud are starting to be withdrawn. Apparently someone also posted the winners details like home address and phone number so the police had to get involved but she didn't work for Skillens after all. Still a whopper of an admin / communication mess though.

Try to keep to one account on boards if you can, M'kay.

TheUsual · 10-01-2013 02:31PM

I know that raffles/lottos are all fixed, because I never won anything in my life.

BUBBLE WRAP · 10-01-2013 02:36PM

Cungi wrote: »

The most important question is why has Lynda got a face like a slapped arse?

A face on her like a battered crunchy.

bigbluesquid · 10-01-2013 02:41PM

Right button, first post. I've been following the story on a couple of sites but this one was local.

Panrich · 10-01-2013 02:49PM

bigbluesquid wrote: »

Right button, first post. I've been following the story on a couple of sites but this one was local.

Just like the competition winner

MagicSean · 10-01-2013 02:54PM

bigbluesquid wrote: »

Some of the articles saying Skillens committed fraud are starting to be withdrawn. Apparently someone also posted the winners details like home address and phone number so the police had to get involved but she didn't work for Skillens after all. Still a whopper of an admin / communication mess though.

I don't think she does work for them. I find the claim that some of her family share the company name to be interesting.

johnwest288 · 10-01-2013 04:26PM

bigbluesquid wrote: »

Some of the articles saying Skillens committed fraud are starting to be withdrawn. Apparently someone also posted the winners details like home address and phone number so the police had to get involved but she didn't work for Skillens after all. Still a whopper of an admin / communication mess though.

Welcome to Boards stranga

Thanks for creating an account to let us know :rolleyes:

Skillens · 10-01-2013 04:52PM

johnwest288 wrote: »

Welcome to Boards stranga
Thanks for creating an account to let us know :rolleyes:

Thanks for the welcome johnwest

Been following this story since it broke and thought people were too quick to presume that the company had committed fraud, so I thought I would give my opinion on the matter.

Company wins their own Facebook competition

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