Was the Ira really that popular in the 70s,80s or 90s

flutered · 06-01-2013 11:34PM

gallag wrote: »

Only popular with people that seen no problem with killing women and children to get "the brits out" they actually set the Republican movement back decades, look how easy Scotland got to vote for independence and not a single dead child. All paramilitaries committed crimes against humanity and should be despised equally.

all this recent talk about killing women and children, who started it, it is been used very frequently to tar people who gave up their lives for their beliefs, has any armed resistance ever managed not to kill innocent civilens, look at nam, how many were killed there, iraq, just too many, how any died the night dresden was bombed, can people speak of how badly catholics were treated in the north, or how about bloody sunday, maybe about the number of catholic houses that were torched, as i said, this they killed women and kids is growing tireing, what is the next bit of propaganda to be unvieled.

Father Damo · 06-01-2013 11:36PM

FlawedGenius wrote: »

ahh the days when writing ira on desks and walls in estates was the fashion

LOL :pac: I wonder are the kids still doing that.

mikemac1 · 06-01-2013 11:36PM

I was new to the pub scence in the 90's

And there would be an old guy calling around to pubs selling An Phoblacht to drunk people

That was in the midlands

I have never ever seen that in Dublin or Galway

Maybe some pubs have sellers but I've never seen them

I bought the paper once, load of ****e

kfallon · 06-01-2013 11:37PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

I was new to the pub scence in the 90's

And there would be an old guy calling around to pubs selling An Phoblacht to drunk people

That was in the midlands

I have never ever seen that in Dublin or Galway

Maybe some pubs have sellers but I've never seen them

I bought the paper once, load of ****e

It's still sold in pubs

barney 20v · 06-01-2013 11:38PM

flutered wrote: »

all this recent talk about killing women and children, who started it, it is been used very frequently to tar people who gave up their lives for their beliefs, has any armed resistance ever managed not to kill innocent civilens, look at nam, how many were killed there, iraq, just too many, how any died the night dresden was bombed, can people speak of how badly catholics were treated in the north, or how about bloody sunday, maybe about the number of catholic houses that were torched, as i said, this they killed women and kids is growing tireing, what is the next bit of propaganda to be unvieled.

Unfortunately not propaganda.... Just facts..... Omagh for example.
I'm sorry it bores you.... People like you are why sf are growing in support.

mikemac1 · 06-01-2013 11:40PM

kfallon wrote: »

It's still sold in pubs

Have been in most /well plenty of pubs in Galway city and never saw it

Would not claim to be in most pubs in Dublin but a fair few and never saw a seller

You couldn't go out on a Friday night in a midlands town without seeing a seller

I thought it was gone

ejmaztec · 06-01-2013 11:40PM

flutered wrote: »

all this recent talk about killing women and children, who started it, it is been used very frequently to tar people who gave up their lives for their beliefs, has any armed resistance ever managed not to kill innocent civilens, look at nam, how many were killed there, iraq, just too many, how any died the night dresden was bombed, can people speak of how badly catholics were treated in the north, or how about bloody sunday, maybe about the number of catholic houses that were torched, as i said, this they killed women and kids is growing tireing, what is the next bit of propaganda to be unvieled.

Didn't the IRA admit that the pub bombings, and bombings of civilian targets in general in the UK, were wrong?

That part of the campaign did absolutely nothing for any cause.

OCorcrain · 06-01-2013 11:46PM

Which IRA are we talking about here?

Dont call me Shirley · 06-01-2013 11:48PM

OCorcrain wrote: »

Which IRA are we talking about here?

The Artist Formerly Known as The IRA.

kfallon · 06-01-2013 11:51PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Have been in most /well plenty of pubs in Galway city and never saw it

Would not claim to be in most pubs in Dublin but a fair few and never saw a seller

You couldn't go out on a Friday night in a midlands town without seeing a seller

I thought it was gone

Couple of guys do it in Drumcondra, think it's on a Thurs or Fri evening

Dont call me Shirley · 06-01-2013 11:54PM

Dont call me Shirley wrote: »

The Artist Formerly Known as The IRA.

That's Sinn Fein just in case anyone's getting confused.

kilograms · 06-01-2013 11:56PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

It was widespread enough for the people that I knew.

up to 10 of my relatives lived and worked and some still do live and work in england in the 40s up to the present day and they have never been victimized. i have had this discussion many times with them.

harry Bailey esq · 06-01-2013 11:57PM

i can confirm its sold in certain pubs in drumcondra. also a few pubs in finglas,cabra and blanch. id imagine its being sold all over the country. a lot of newsagents even stock it now

Super-Rush · 06-01-2013 11:59PM

There used to be a fair few IRA sympathisers down here when i was growing up. Mainly older men and women from my grandparents generation. My parents generation never carried on with it thankfully.

Cathal Goulding who was chief of staff of the IRA during the 60's lived up the road from me for a long time and was often in my house when i was a kid. He was close friends with my grand uncle.

brummytom · 07-01-2013 12:05AM

kilograms wrote: »

Although victimization did occur, it wasn't as widespread as people think

My mom went to a Catholic Girls' School in Birmingham, where 99% of the students would have been 2nd generation Irish. After the pub bombings, police guarded the school for fear of revenge attacks. My mom lived in a relatively English area and my nan (from Dublin) wasn't treated well at all.

Incredible anti-Irish feeling was very common in much of Britain at the time, and there are still plenty of places/people that have intensely anti-Irish views.

padd b1975 · 07-01-2013 12:13AM

Where To wrote: »

You know of a guy?

I'm far from the RA's biggest fan but that sounds like bollocks to me.

Its a true story, the guys occupation probably had a lot to do with the level of extortion.

He was a prison officer at the time.

Basil Fawlty · 07-01-2013 12:22AM

Ive been drinking in pubs all over south county dublin for years and I have never seen an phoblacht for sale.

Chuck Stone · 07-01-2013 12:28AM

gallag wrote: »

Only popular with people that seen no problem with killing women and children to get "the brits out"

The murder of innocent civilians only ever hurt support for the IRA.

On the whole the IRA were a professional, dedicated, highly skilled and resilient force that the British Army failed to defeat.

kilograms · 07-01-2013 12:28AM

ciarancapri wrote: »

Ive been drinking in pubs all over south county dublin for years and I have never seen an phoblacht for sale.

it gets sold in some pubs in Ballyfermot now and again

gallag · 07-01-2013 12:37AM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

The murder of innocent civilians only ever hurt support for the IRA.

On the whole the IRA were a professional, dedicated, highly skilled and resilient force that the British Army failed to defeat.

What nonsense, they were murders like the rest ofthem, killing their own to line their pockets, murdering work men because of their religion, killing women and children, planting bombs in civilian areas. And they were defeated, not by the army but by the will of the people.

barney 20v · 07-01-2013 12:39AM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

The murder of innocent civilians only ever hurt support for the IRA.

On the whole the IRA were a professional, dedicated, highly skilled and resilient force that the British Army failed to defeat.

Omagh.... Nothing more needs to be said.

kilograms · 07-01-2013 12:39AM

gallag wrote: »

What nonsense, they were murders like the rest ofthem, killing their own to line their pockets, murdering work men because of their religion, killing women and children, planting bombs in civilian areas. And they were defeated, not by the army but by the will of the people.

here here

harry Bailey esq · 07-01-2013 12:40AM

south county Dublin is not an area sf would enjoy a lot of support traditionally,go to tallaght clondalkin crumlin or ballyer as another poster mentioned and im sure you'd find it on sale

Itsdacraic · 07-01-2013 12:40AM

gallag wrote: »

Only popular with people that seen no problem with killing women and children to get "the brits out" they actually set the Republican movement back decades, look how easy Scotland got to vote for independence and not a single dead child. All paramilitaries committed crimes against humanity and should be despised equally.

Christ that's a retarded post.

barney 20v · 07-01-2013 12:41AM

Itsdacraic wrote: »

Christ that's a retarded post.

In what way?

Chuck Stone · 07-01-2013 12:43AM

gallag wrote: »

What nonsense, they were murders like the rest ofthem, killing their own to line their pockets, murdering work men because of their religion, killing women and children, planting bombs in civilian areas. And they were defeated, not by the army but by the will of the people.

Now you're making up nonsense.

But hey, don't listen to me sure.

An internal British army document examining 37 years of deployment in Northern Ireland contains the claim by one expert that it failed to defeat the IRA.

It describes the IRA as "a professional, dedicated, highly skilled and resilient force", while loyalist paramilitaries and other republican groups are described as "little more than a collection of gangsters".

http://news.bbc.co.uk

kilograms · 07-01-2013 12:44AM

barney 20v wrote: »

Omagh.... Nothing more needs to be said.

Omagh, Saturday 3pm, busiest time of the day, families out shopping on the main street, not a british soldier in sight. BOOM!!! sophisticated and professional IRA my arse

barney 20v · 07-01-2013 12:45AM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Now you're making up nonsense.

But hey, don't listen to me sure.

Omagh chuck.... Omagh.

northernpower · 07-01-2013 12:46AM

barney 20v wrote: »

In what way?

You can't see the difference between how the minority population was treated in the north compared to Scotland?

gallag · 07-01-2013 12:46AM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Now you're making up nonsense.

But hey, don't listen to me sure.

What was made up? And I can find news articles that say the ira were murderous cowards.

Was the Ira really that popular in the 70s,80s or 90s

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