Gallagher to sue RTÉ

Biggins · 06-01-2013 04:18PM

I genuinely don't see what he's trying to gain by this latest course of action.
Is it money? Publicity for himself?
Dunno!

Its his right to challenge something he feels is wrong - but right now, I really don't see what else he might be gaining from rehashing this matter all over again.

He might be further opening his own 'Pandora box' and it might come back to haunt him.
Still, its his right to try hold someone accountable.

expectationlost · 06-01-2013 04:24PM

Happyman42 wrote: »

RTE and Kenny in cahoots with Sinn Fein? that's quite a stretch. The only mistake here was not verifying the tweet, if Kenny believed it to be true and accurate (and I think he did) he was right to use it. I, for one, want to see an interrogative and investigative media in this country, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in if the media remembered that that is their primary function.

no rte frontline were wrong not to check it, it wasn't merely a genuine mistake, it was journalistic f up of the highest order not to double check it

Happyman42 · 06-01-2013 04:25PM

Biggins wrote: »

Is it money? Publicity for himself?

He's short of one and has too much of the other?.

donegal_road · 06-01-2013 04:27PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Whatever else he did this is a new one on me!

apologies, I meant smuggler

sure joe · 06-01-2013 04:31PM

LordChessington wrote: »

Fcuk him.

That election involved an elderly gentleman who was a political veteran with firm grasp of Irish culture and history, and six chancers. The six chancers lost, and rightly so.

does anybody know if said elderly gentleman has passed away. Its just that he hasnt been seen since that telly debate where nobody asked him any difficult questions.

Happyman42 · 06-01-2013 04:31PM

expectationlost wrote: »

no rte frontline were wrong not to check it, it wasn't merely a genuine mistake, it was journalistic f up of the highest order not to double check it

Nobody denies that. Gallagher damaged himself in his response to it. McGuinness could claim that his campaign was damaged too as there was a backlash of criticism.

nokia69 · 06-01-2013 04:39PM

why is Gallagher doing this now

he can't need the money, a great "an-tra-pun-our" like him must have billions by now

expectationlost · 06-01-2013 04:44PM

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Hi Biggins,
Don't see any mention of fuel laundering there, as Morgans are the biggest fuel card company in Ireland I would reckon they would be far from happy to be associated with fuel laundering, which wreck cars!
That said I wasn't voting for Gallagher anyway!

Newry businessman Morgan pleaded guilty to fuel smuggling and tax evasion at Belfast Crown Court in June 1998. He received a suspended 18-month jail sentence. He paid £500,000 in excise duties and VAT and was ordered to pay £25,000 prosecution costs.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1356555/Gerry-Adams-fuel-smuggler-Sinn-Fein-leader-rents-election-office-firm-owned-convicted-criminal.html#ixzz2HD7fezrz

2007 morgan fuels delivering fuel to border depot with no license to trade oil rte primetime http://www.rte.ie/news/av/2007/1217/primetimeinvestigates.html#page=3

suicide_circus · 06-01-2013 04:45PM

Biggins wrote: »

I agree.
Passing himself off an a supposedly independent - when in fact he was wrapped up in the cloak of Fianna Fail all along.

exactly.
Sean gallagher didnt lose the election because of the tv debate or RTE. He lost the election because he was running as an independent and was exposed as a Fianna Fail bagman.
That said, RTE are a disgrace

ilovesleep · 06-01-2013 04:45PM

And yet we probably won't be as lucky to see RTE go to the wall and we'll still be forced into supporting the farce that is rte with the outdated tv licensing laws soon to be broadcasting charge.

gifted · 06-01-2013 04:47PM

Just wondering if he wins his case against RTE, would the No Campaigners in the childrens referendum have a good chance against the Government if they decide to bring them to court over the result over the use of public funds?

Fromthetrees · 06-01-2013 04:48PM

Gallagher is a cretin. The Irish public are worse.

Sure it's the fela off the dragon den there isn't he a great lad, nothing to do with fianna fail no, no, sure it'd be up on the poster if he was, lovely fela.

The Muppet · 06-01-2013 04:50PM

Kess73 wrote: »

Maybe if he had been able to disprove the claim against him then his campaign would not have been so damaged.

The dirty trick on Frontline handed him a shovel alright, but he was the one that dug the hole with his responses that night and in the days that followed.

RTE or to be more precise Pat Kenny dug the hole, he just fell into it. Our National Broadcaster really let themselve down on this one and it's going to cost us all dearly.

Biggins · 06-01-2013 04:50PM

Fromthetrees wrote: »

Gallagher is a cretin. The Irish public are worse.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

Pappa Charlie · 06-01-2013 04:52PM

Theres an arrogance within RTE that has led to this, they think they are the ones who shape the country and that we owe them big time and that they know best, they clearly thought the public were going to elect Gallagher and that they knew better, they set out to scupper him and they did, that attitude and action is contrary to democracy and for a national broadcaster to engage in such actions is in my opinion criminal/treason and not just a disgrace. The station should be disbanded and top brass sacked. Gallagher should be compensated for the loss of revenue for wages and pension lost through their action and damages. I was one of the people who changed my vote following the broadcast and I was misled, RTE's credibility is zero and the wages paid to their presenters and insult to citizens of theis country!!

Fromthetrees · 06-01-2013 04:54PM

Biggins wrote: »

Don't be so hard on yourself.

Crap.

I meant people who would vote for a fianna fail bagman not long after they sent the country into ruination for a generation.

Me, I only vote for candidates that are of the highest moral standing.

jjf1974 · 06-01-2013 05:07PM

If something like this happened in the uk there would be fellas getting thee p45,s

c_man · 06-01-2013 05:12PM

Fromthetrees wrote: »

sure it'd be up on the poster if he was, lovely fela.

No fan of the guy, but fair play to him for not using posters during the election. It was a nice touch and one i hope will be repeated in other elections.

Biggins · 06-01-2013 05:17PM

Fromthetrees wrote: »

...Me, I only vote for candidates that are of the highest moral standing.

Shane Ross? Stephen Donnelly types?

I only select the above 'cos I can't see any in the other mainstream elected parties.
(But I'm sure they are in there somewhere)

cml387 · 06-01-2013 05:24PM

It was the tweet that done it.

If PK had let the SF do all the dirty work and stand aloof it would have been ok.

Reading out the (bogus) tweet about Gallagher was crass stupidity and will probably cost us the licence fee payers a few bob.

GRMA · 06-01-2013 05:25PM

You have to laugh at the fools who think RTE would conspire with Sinn Féin against a Fianna Fáiler. What are you people on?

It was great that the bagman didn't worm his way in and was revealed as what he is, a no good FF scumbag

GRMA · 06-01-2013 05:26PM

Biggins wrote: »

Shane Ross? Stephen Donnelly types?

I only select the above 'cos I can't see any in the other mainstream elected parties.
(But I'm sure they are in there somewhere)

You gotta be laughing, Shane Ross?

Stinicker · 06-01-2013 05:27PM

jjf1974 wrote: »

If something like this happened in the uk there would be fellas getting thee p45,s

I don't see anyone getting P45's for covering up the Jimmy Saville Paedophilia case which is a hell of alot more serious than this.

RTE were right to read the tweet which Gallagher himself admitted, his lies blew up in his face live on TV and he was exposed as Fianna Fail cronie. I'm glad he lost and Michael D. is a supreme gentleman and a credit to this country. For Michael D. to lose to this cretin would have been a national disgrace and shame on the deluded eejits who actually supported and voted for Gallagher.

Michael D. has been a credible president and forced the Government to hold the Fiscal compact treaty referendum and let the people decide. The previous Fianna Fail traitor Mary McAleese signed bill after bill for her FF paymasters and had the power to veto the 2010 bailout which bankrupted the country which would have forced a general election before the budget and let FG in who would have opposed the bailout and corrected finances quicker.

The presidency maybe largely ceremonial but it has important powers too and Michael D. has shown he maybe from Labour but is not biased to the Government when he scuppered Gov attempts to get the fiscal compact through without a referendum. The people voted for it afterwards but that was fair democracy.

Gallagher by contrast is a Fianna Fail slimeball and who could trust anybody from that background with all the cronyism, corruption and criminality attached to that party of national traitors?

I hope he loses the case and ends up with millions in legal fees!

My name is URL · 06-01-2013 05:30PM

Stinicker wrote: »

I hope he loses the case and ends up with millions in legal fees!

I'd wager that there's very little chance of him losing. RTE, as an impartial body, and Pat Kenny as moderator of the debate should have ensured that the tweet was legitimate. They obviously failed to do so. All Gallagher needs to show is that his character was tarnished because of that, regardless of anything else that happened on the night.

expectationlost · 06-01-2013 05:32PM

Stinicker wrote: »

I don't see anyone getting P45's for covering up the Jimmy Saville Paedophilia case which is a hell of alot more serious than this.

RTE were right to read the tweet

no they weren't they should have double checked it and then got a official sinn fein comment on the issue

Biggins · 06-01-2013 05:35PM

GRMA wrote: »

You gotta be laughing, Shane Ross?

It was just an alternative name from the usual shower I wouldn't trust with me plants, never mind my vote.

Stinicker · 06-01-2013 05:35PM

Yes they were right to read and they did the country a great favour, Gallagher was a lier and RTE exposed this.

Biggins · 06-01-2013 05:37PM

expectationlost wrote: »

no they weren't they should have double checked it and then got a official sinn fein comment on the issue

To be fair, I'm sure the show got loads of tweets alone that night.
Would they have time/staff to check all or even some of them?

Richard Hillman · 06-01-2013 05:38PM

Stinicker wrote: »

Yes they were right to read and they did the country a great favour, Gallagher was a lier and RTE exposed this.

You really dont get why it was wrong do you?

What happens when it happens to the guy that you want to win and the allegations are untrue?

sure joe · 06-01-2013 05:52PM

gallagher was way ahead in the polls and took a nose dive after this show. the least he is entitled to is loss of earning for seven years on his arus. the only good thing about his non election is that some oul codger who spent his entire life wasting taxpayers money visiting every country in the world has now retired and not left the house since

Gallagher to sue RTÉ

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