Today I saw a classic and took a pic thread!

Capri · 04-01-2013 01:14AM

Marty McFly wrote: »

:rolleyes: I was pointing out the time because I dont know about you but I wouldnt park a car like that on the side of the street with a soft top for fear of some scumbag deciding it was an easy target. But hey roll your eyes all you want :cool:.

Totally agree - saw about 20 cars near the park at Harold's Cross with their windows smashed at 9am on Jan 1 :mad::mad:

Dades · 04-01-2013 06:06PM

Marty McFly wrote: »

Sorry for the poor quality pic took a quick pic sitting at a red light. Seen in Dun Laoighre parked on the side of the street at 3a.m

That might live in Dun Laoghaire - often see one parked along the coast road between Monkstown and the Purty Kitchen.

w124man · 04-01-2013 09:36PM

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Does anyone else think that the day has come where by you should be able to tax your "large engined car that's not quite a classic yet" just for weekend use at a reduced rate? It seems crazy that so many luxury cars are worthless here due to the ludicrous road tax here in Ireland. Isn't it about time that a restricted road tax was brought in at a reduced rate so you could use the car for weekends only? What do ye think?

I do for one as I have a low miler 300SE sitting in a garage ..... It would never work because we are Irish and fiddling the system is what we are about I'm afraid !!

Capri · 04-01-2013 11:12PM

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Does anyone else think that the day has come where by you should be able to tax your "large engined car that's not quite a classic yet" just for weekend use at a reduced rate? It seems crazy that so many luxury cars are worthless here due to the ludicrous road tax here in Ireland. Isn't it about time that a restricted road tax was brought in at a reduced rate so you could use the car for weekends only? What do ye think?

Singapore have a 'system' - but not sure I'd like to live there. They're big into tax by any means so you'd be paying it somewhere along the line

Off-peak Vehicles
An offpeak white on red number plate
An offpeak white on red number plateVehicles registered as "Off-peak Vehicles", affectionately known as "Weekend Cars", pay a cheaper road tax as compared to normal private cars, although COE charges apply as usual. They display number plates with white characters on a red background. These vehicles are only allowed to run on the roads in Singapore after office hours (7pm-7am) on weekdays, full day on Saturday, Sunday and Public Holidays.

In the case where owners of private vehicles choose to run on the roads on weekdays during office hours, they are required to buy an e-licence for $20 either online or through major post offices. Car owners have up to 24 hours on the following day to purchase the e-licence. Failure to do so first time offenders may be fined up to $5,000 for failing to display a valid day coupon or using an invalid day coupon, and fined up to $10,000 for using an altered day coupon when the OPC is used during the restricted hours.

Off-peak vehicles pay a relatively lower road tax (a discount of up to $500) as compared to other private vehicles and are also given rebate of $17,000 which can be offset against COE and ARF.

Even so, the majority of the people in Singapore do not use Off-peak vehicles.

http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/buy_a_new_vehicle/vehicle_licence_plate.html

"Classic Car" collectors' vehicles display a normal registration but with white lettering on a half-red over half-yellow background, with seal affixed on number plate by an authorised inspection centre. Motorcycles registered as these vehicles also use these

Having said that, look at the £'s / $'s the UK /US make from personalised plates - people ARE willing to pay (tax :rolleyes: ) for certain privilages . In Ireland the govt just say 'We're penalising you for using your 20 y.o. car on the road' = people just sell/don't use them and the govt gets € 000 , whereas IF the govt said 'get it NCT'd, use it at weekends only and we'll issue a special 'R' plate to you at a €200/yr - if you feck about the fine is €1000 !' then they'd EARN money :eek: - IT'D NEVER HAPPEN HERE

:p

okistag · 05-01-2013 12:27PM

w124man wrote: »

I do for one as I have a low miler 300SE sitting in a garage ..... It would never work because we are Irish and fiddling the system is what we are about I'm afraid !!

I agree it is unlikely that it would work, weekend tax!!that is.

However if they added it to the fuel it would make more sense. The heavier a vehicle is on fuel the more one pays and lighter on fuel the less you pay. High mileage / low mileage etc. everyone wins !!

I lived abroad for a few years and insurance 3rd party only was built into the fuel. So every vehicle on the road was covered in event of an accident.

Tax is our issue so why not build tax into fuel!

mb1725 · 05-01-2013 01:25PM

okistag wrote: »

Tax is our issue so why not build tax into fuel!

It would never be that straightforward in Ireland, if it happened we would end up with two taxes - one on the windscreen and one on fuel.

okistag · 05-01-2013 01:47PM

mb1725 wrote: »

It would never be that straightforward in Ireland, if it happened we would end up with two taxes - one on the windscreen and one on fuel.

LOL, yes here we just can not be straightforward can we.. but it would be a simple solution to a big problem.

1 disc on the windscreen insurance and if its got fuel in it, its taxed simple as.. this way every vehicle pays its share of roadtax.

Carson10 · 05-01-2013 02:06PM

1986 Ford Fiesta. spotted in Deansgrange Dublin. Elderly man driving it. Looks like its used daily.

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junkyarddog · 05-01-2013 05:40PM

Fiat 131,on the outskirts of limerick city this morning:)

red sean · 05-01-2013 06:32PM

Fiat 131,on the outskirts of limerick city this morning

LHD ?

68deville · 05-01-2013 09:22PM

rare color! a load of those yokes parked at same location ,at least ten of em!red dmc.JPG

junkyarddog · 05-01-2013 09:51PM

red sean wrote: »

LHD ?

Yes,I'm fairly sure it was LHD,on an '82 plate.

68deville · 05-01-2013 10:00PM

stunning impala SS, impala 61.JPG

Silvera · 05-01-2013 11:07PM

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Does anyone else think that the day has come where by you should be able to tax your "large engined car that's not quite a classic yet" just for weekend use at a reduced rate? It seems crazy that so many luxury cars are worthless here due to the ludicrous road tax here in Ireland. Isn't it about time that a restricted road tax was brought in at a reduced rate so you could use the car for weekends only? What do ye think?

Agree 100%.
A restricted road tax (or even a reduced rate - say half of the vehicles normal annual road tax rate when it reaches 20 or 25 yrs old) would keep a lot of older larger-engined vehicles on the road (and bring in more revenue for the govt).

Tzar Chasm · 05-01-2013 11:28PM

okistag wrote: »

LOL, yes here we just can not be straightforward can we.. but it would be a simple solution to a big problem.

1 disc on the windscreen insurance and if its got fuel in it, its taxed simple as.. this way every vehicle pays its share of roadtax.

they already tax the bejaysus out of fuel,I for one wont be inviting them to ride me any further

kev1.3s · 05-01-2013 11:36PM

68deville wrote: »

rare color! a load of those yokes parked at same location ,at least ten of em!red dmc.JPG

also missing the passenger side wing.

AlmightyCushion · 06-01-2013 12:09AM

kev1.3s wrote: »

also missing the passenger side wing.

I'm pretty sure the flux capacitor is gone as well. I imagine spare parts for that are tough to get. I think it's an early model, no mr fusion on it.

Capri · 06-01-2013 12:25AM

Silvera wrote: »

Agree 100%.
A restricted road tax (or even a reduced rate - say half of the vehicles normal annual road tax rate when it reaches 20 or 25 yrs old) would keep a lot of older larger-engined vehicles on the road (and bring in more revenue for the govt).

Aaaaah, but the Greenies will say - 'Enviromentally unfriendly' :mad: , notwithstanding that building a new batterymobile is MORE enviromentally unfriendly than if we just stopped producing cars and repaired the ones that've already been built :eek:

68deville · 06-01-2013 04:36PM

kev1.3s wrote: »

also missing the passenger side wing.

a few more pics of Deloreans at same place dmcs.JPG

Type 17 · 06-01-2013 05:30PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

... I imagine spare parts for that are tough to get.

Apparently not - I heard at a car meet (but have no firm info on it) that a guy in the US bought all of the parts when the DMC company collapsed, and that there are enough parts available to build more DMC12's than actually exist today.

Al Capwned · 06-01-2013 05:31PM

Type 17 wrote: »

Apparently not - I heard at a car meet (but have no firm info on it) that a guy in the US bought all of the parts when the DMC company collapsed, and that there are enough parts available to build more DMC12's than actually exist today.

Heard something similar on a recent ep of Wheeler Dealers.

AlmightyCushion · 06-01-2013 07:46PM

Type 17 wrote: »

Apparently not - I heard at a car meet (but have no firm info on it) that a guy in the US bought all of the parts when the DMC company collapsed, and that there are enough parts available to build more DMC12's than actually exist today.

I was just talking about the flux capacitor.

Type 17 · 06-01-2013 07:57PM

Fair enough, I doubt that there are many Flux Capacitors in that stash of parts…

Capri · 07-01-2013 01:55AM

Was on Euronews today - Classic car drive across Paris

2012 version -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAFhNyYckbE

http://www.google.co.nz/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADRA_enIE451IE451&q=Travers%c3%a9e+de+Paris+youtube#q=Travers%C3%A9e+de+Paris+youtube&hl=en&tbo=u&rlz=1T4ADRA_enIE451IE451&source=univ&tbm=vid&sa=X&ei=ZRrqUPS9BoKRhQeciIHgBQ&ved=0CF0QqwQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.ZG4&fp=9cb886d3636d14c8&bpcl=40096503&biw=1142&bih=653

Anan1 · 07-01-2013 10:06AM

Capri wrote: »

Aaaaah, but the Greenies will say - 'Enviromentally unfriendly' :mad: , notwithstanding that building a new batterymobile is MORE enviromentally unfriendly than if we just stopped producing cars and repaired the ones that've already been built :eek:

I doubt that. It's not an idea that anyone will argue against, just one that nobody is actually bothered to implement.

Sam Russell · 07-01-2013 08:41PM

To put road tax onto petro would cost 50c extra per litre. It would suit low mileage drivers, but not the comuters. However, it might encourage those comuters to use public transport - particularly if they reduce the fares to compensate and encourage long distance commuters to use trains and busses.

Marlow · 07-01-2013 09:08PM

Sam Russell wrote: »

To put road tax onto petro would cost 50c extra per litre. It would suit low mileage drivers, but not the comuters. However, it might encourage those comuters to use public transport - particularly if they reduce the fares to compensate and encourage long distance commuters to use trains and busses.

Which actually is a win-win situation no matter how you put it. There's also plenty of commuters, that actually don't need to drive by car, but do so, because it's more convenient or they have been too lazy to check, that there are other options.

/M

Dades · 07-01-2013 09:33PM

Much as I agree in an ideal system tax would be on fuel only, the primary purpose of tax in our system is to get as much cash from the motorist as possible.

Fairness or eco-friendliness was never on the agenda.

68deville · 07-01-2013 09:50PM

another one from a recent trip ta states vette.JPG

Type 17 · 07-01-2013 10:30PM

Marlow wrote: »

Which actually is a win-win situation no matter how you put it. There's also plenty of commuters, that actually don't need to drive by car, but do so, because it's more convenient or they have been too lazy to check, that there are other options.

/M

A lot of commuters feel justified in always using their cars because they've paid loads of VRT and motor-tax just to own them - In Ireland, owning a car and using public transport is basically paying twice for the same thing.

If it was cheaper to own a car, (and public transport wasn't so poor,) a lot of people would consider other modes of transport for commuting and other repetitive journeys.

Today I saw a classic and took a pic thread!

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