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Madam_X · 04-01-2013 11:24AM

newmug wrote: »

I dont think thats an "unpopular" opinon though.

Would definitely have been even just a year ago - the man is seen by so many as incapable of wrongdoing, but yeh I think people are starting to question that now. I used to love him myself, but have begun to find him increasingly smug, arrogant and hypocritical. His thing about taking offence is utter tripe - as if he, a gay man of jewish descent, would never take offence. What's worse though is the army of hipsters who lavish praise on it.

old hippy · 04-01-2013 01:07PM

Shryke wrote: »

I understood it and I had a look at the books. They're pulp and so is the film.
It would be simple minded to think the film was for whatever it contained..
For me it's more a violent film toward women than for women, if you understand.

This is unpopular opinions and it was a popular film so i'm sure I'll meet disagreement.

You should have had more than a look at the books. They were originally going to be called "Men who Hate Women" and the author, Stieg Larsson, was a journalist who wrote extensively on violence towards women in Sweden. The whole Millennium set up was not a million miles from his own publishing career, although in real life, there was no Salander.

old hippy · 04-01-2013 01:11PM

Madam_X wrote: »

Would definitely have been even just a year ago - the man is seen by so many as incapable of wrongdoing, but yeh I think people are starting to question that now. I used to love him myself, but have begun to find him increasingly smug, arrogant and hypocritical. His thing about taking offence is utter tripe - as if he, a gay man of jewish descent, would never take offence. What's worse though is the army of hipsters who lavish praise on it.

He's taken offence plenty of times in the past. He also (not that it excuses his occasional arrogant and smug behaviour) suffers from bipolar disorder and famously went missing for several days after walking out of a play he was starring in back in the 90s.

I do like QI but I can see why some people get annoyed by him.

1ZRed · 04-01-2013 02:20PM

Sex and the city is the BIGGEST load of pure nonsensical shite I have ever had the misfortune of having exposure to, and this is coming from the perspective of a gay guy

mark renton · 04-01-2013 03:16PM

1ZRed wrote: »

Sex and the city is the BIGGEST load of pure nonsensical [SIZE="2"]shi[/SIZE]te I have ever had the misfortune of having exposure to, and this is coming from the perspective of a gay guy

I can see how this would not appeal to those batting for the other side. The only part of this program which has longevity is that it still gives hope to over 40 males that there may still be loose intelligent attractive women out there.

kunst nugget · 04-01-2013 03:20PM

john47832 wrote: »

I can see how this would not appeal to those batting for the other side. The only part of this program which has longevity is that it still gives hope to over 40 males that there may still be loose intelligent attractive women out there.

Intelligent and attractive?!?!

Yamanoto · 04-01-2013 03:21PM

1ZRed wrote: »

Sex and the city is the BIGGEST load of pure nonsensical shite I have ever had the misfortune of having exposure to, and this is coming from the perspective of a gay guy

Rant alert...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHeQeHstrsc

mark renton · 04-01-2013 03:22PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

Intelligent and attractive?!?!

Well I havent watched it in quite a while - have the main characters changed since the film?

pickarooney · 04-01-2013 03:26PM

eyescreamcone wrote: »

That's only true if it's the only garment she wears

that would totally defeat the purpose...

sbsquarepants · 04-01-2013 03:28PM

john47832 wrote: »

I can see how this would not appeal to those batting for the other side. The only part of this program which has longevity is that it still gives hope to over 40 males that there may still be loose intelligent attractive women out there.

I don't think there are too many over 40 males watching that shíte. Or too many males at all in fact. It's squarely aimed at the ladies i think, bitches be crazy:D Kim Catrall would still get it though!

Czarcasm · 04-01-2013 03:30PM

john47832 wrote: »

Well I havent watched it in quite a while - have the main characters changed since the film?

While attraction may be subjective and entirely from an individual perspective, I think you're WAY off the mark categorising any of the women these actresses portrayed as "intelligent".

I don't think there was a vacuuous stereotype the writers missed tbh, from the overtly camp gay men, to the superficial woody allen-esque insecurities and innane ramblings of the four main characters.

mark renton · 04-01-2013 03:54PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

While attraction may be subjective and entirely from an individual perspective, I think you're WAY off the mark categorising any of the women these actresses portrayed as "intelligent".

I don't think there was a vacuuous stereotype the writers missed tbh, from the overtly camp gay men, to the superficial woody allen-esque insecurities and innane ramblings of the four main characters.

Sorry dude, but I dont think it was intended for such deep analysis, just the fluff...

greenheart · 04-01-2013 03:54PM

There's a lot of snobs/stuck up posters on AH.
Don't get me wrong I love coming to AH and having a read & I know most is a piss take but the amount of threads/posts slating the lower & working class is a bit much.
The thread about the rich girl ranting proves it. Yeah fair enough she's only young but the arrogance from her towards working class people was unbelievable. If that was a girl from say Ballyfermot talking about horses & how her dad was a good tiler for example (not good Eg I know) with a really common Dublin accent I don't think she'd be getting pity from the majority of posters. Maybe she would but I doubt it.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but some of the posts on here leave me gob-smacked and wondering do these people live in the real world.. But then I realise it's only the internet...

Czarcasm · 04-01-2013 04:05PM

john47832 wrote: »

Sorry dude, but I dont think it was intended for such deep analysis, just the fluff...

My bad john, perhaps I'm showing a little bitterness at the fact my wife religiously watched this show for the ten years or so it was on, then the constant re-runs on comedy central, and just when you thought the nightmare was over, they squeeze the last out of the franchise by bringing out not one, but TWO god awful films, and are now in talks about a THIRD one!!

Motopepe · 04-01-2013 04:07PM

this is a perfect world

mark renton · 04-01-2013 04:23PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

My bad john, perhaps I'm showing a little bitterness at the fact my wife religiously watched this show for the ten years or so it was on, then the constant re-runs on comedy central, and just when you thought the nightmare was over, they squeeze the last out of the franchise by bringing out not one, but TWO god awful films, and are now in talks about a THIRD one!!

Ahh its not that bad, I do believe it is watchable for the straight man, the added narative dialog probably does help as we dont have to guess a whole lot, any program watched too much will lose its appeal...

If im not mistaken carie was a writer, which requires some intelligence, and I dont remember the others being portrayed a thick in any way

kunst nugget · 04-01-2013 04:34PM

john47832 wrote: »

Ahh its not that bad, I do believe it is watchable for the straight man, the added narative dialog probably does help as we dont have to guess a whole lot, any program watched too much will lose its appeal...

If im not mistaken carie was a writer, which requires some intelligence, and I dont remember the others being portrayed a thick in any way

The fúcking rambling, internal monologue on that show has become the mainstay of every piece of garbage aimed at women and is one of the worse legacies of that programme.

And I always find that notion of a cúnt with a cocktail, who loves shoes and yet still (sigh) struggles to find a man that loves her, being somehow a symbol of female empowerment completely fücking retarded.

Czarcasm · 04-01-2013 04:43PM

john47832 wrote: »

Ahh its not that bad, I do believe it is watchable for the straight man, the added narative dialog probably does help as we dont have to guess a whole lot, any program watched too much will lose its appeal...

If im not mistaken carie was a writer, which requires some intelligence, and I dont remember the others being portrayed a thick in any way

Ahh John, come on now!

Carrie was a freelance journalist who spent the ten years of the show writing about her lack of understanding of the opposite sex, and when she wasn't trying to latch on to gay men, she spent ten years chasing a man she called "Big", who showed little interest in her, only when it suited him?

Based on that premise alone I'd say she was more than just a bit dim, and as for the others, while professionally they may have been portrayed as capable, their personal lives were completely unrealistic, especially the swinging sexpot character that was Samantha!

mark renton · 04-01-2013 05:04PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

The fúcking rambling, internal monologue on that show has become the mainstay of every piece of garbage aimed at women and is one of the worse legacies of that programme.

And I always find that notion of a cúnt with a cocktail, who loves shoes and yet still (sigh) struggles to find a man that loves her, being somehow a symbol of female empowerment completely fücking retarded.

Your issues may lay a bit deeper than tv nugget...

donvito99 · 04-01-2013 05:07PM

Unionists have every right to be annoyed that the Union flag isn't being flown on certain days in Britain.

mark renton · 04-01-2013 05:24PM

donvito99 wrote: »

Unionists have every right to be annoyed that the Union flag isn't being flown on certain days in Britain.

I thought it was the certain days that it was being flown

eyescreamcone · 04-01-2013 07:28PM

john47832 wrote: »

I thought it was the certain days that it was being flown

But on other certain days it's not. Or is it the other way round. I'm confused!

duploelabs · 04-01-2013 07:32PM

I think mods of certain forums should have a proper working knowledge of the forums rather than being on the forum the whole time

Madam_X · 04-01-2013 07:36PM

1ZRed wrote: »

Sex and the city is the BIGGEST load of pure nonsensical shite I have ever had the misfortune of having exposure to, and this is coming from the perspective of a gay guy

Unpopular opinion among many, but popular opinion among many others.

greenheart wrote: »

There's a lot of snobs/stuck up posters on AH.
Don't get me wrong I love coming to AH and having a read & I know most is a piss take but the amount of threads/posts slating the lower & working class is a bit much.
The thread about the rich girl ranting proves it. Yeah fair enough she's only young but the arrogance from her towards working class people was unbelievable. If that was a girl from say Ballyfermot talking about horses & how her dad was a good tiler for example (not good Eg I know) with a really common Dublin accent I don't think she'd be getting pity from the majority of posters. Maybe she would but I doubt it.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but some of the posts on here leave me gob-smacked and wondering do these people live in the real world.. But then I realise it's only the internet...

If she was drunk and from Ballyfermot and ranting and slurring like that posh one, some people pitying the latter here would be calling her a skanky junkie knacker etc etc. Both scenarios deserve criticism but they certainly wouldn't get 50/50 criticism.

Sar_Bear · 04-01-2013 08:32PM

I have no sympathy for the KPMG girl. If it was someone from a less well off background not half as many people would jump to their defence.

"Hey I just met you,
And this is crazy,
But my daddy is loike totes one of the top earning portners in KPMG"

The King of Moo · 04-01-2013 08:40PM

Sar_Bear wrote: »

I have no sympathy for the KPMG girl. If it was someone from a less well off background not half as many people would jump to their defence.

"Hey I just met you,
And this is crazy,
But my daddy is loike totes one of the top earning portners in KPMG"

I've mixed feelings about her.

I agree with you that she'd have got dog's abuse if she were, for example, from the North side of Dublin and bragging about getting social welfare benefits. And I'm not sure the video'd be removed from so many sites so quickly.

On the other hand, I don't like to say too much negative about her because she's apparently only 16 (I'm not sure where this is coming from though, and she looks a lot older) and I presume the video was posted online without her consent.

I do think she's deserving of some criticism, but this being the internet, I can easily imagine it going too far.

Meangadh · 04-01-2013 08:47PM

I feel unbelievably sorry for her. Any of us who drink have said/done stupid things under the influence.

Yeah she comes across as a bit of a pain, but absolutely does not deserve the publicity she's getting over it. Some of the stuff I have read that people have written about her is scandalous- they don't even know her. And even if they did, you still shouldn't say those horrific things.

I just hope she'll be ok- regardless of her age, I hope she'll be able to get over it without feeling too bad. Those who posted it up should be absolutely ashamed of themselves- silly and all as the girl may have been, they are a million times worse than her.

StinkyMunkey · 04-01-2013 08:50PM

Bring back the death penalty....!

Micky Dolenz · 04-01-2013 09:13PM

Mod

No more discussion of the drunk girl, please and thanks.

Annasopra · 04-01-2013 09:37PM

1ZRed wrote: »

Sex and the city is the BIGGEST load of pure nonsensical shite I have ever had the misfortune of having exposure to, and this is coming from the perspective of a gay guy

I quite like it

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