Bradley Wiggins - MOD Warning - see Opening Post

seve65 · 03-10-2012 12:46PM

Old article by Kimmage on Wiggins, is a good summary of + and - ive views.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2177405/Bradley-Wiggins-battle-cyclings-drug-demons--Paul-Kimmage.html

Just remembered I know from the letape last year a Dr from Ireland who has recently been employed by the sky team. No previous cycling connections other than passing interest. Not sure exactly what capacity

Beasty · 03-10-2012 03:12PM

A few posters are treading a fine line with regard to the doping speculation rule

Can we please focus on his cycling and fashion sense/hairstyle

There will be no more warnings

Thanks

Beasty

dave_o_brien · 03-10-2012 03:14PM

Can we speculate on whether or not he uses Hair Growth Supplements?

Beasty · 03-10-2012 03:16PM

dave_o_brien wrote: »

Can we speculate on whether or not he uses Hair Growth Supplements?

Provided they are not banned, yes

MPFG · 03-10-2012 04:22PM

Check out Moser's view on Wiggins (and Nibali) on Velonation

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12987/Francesco-Moser-says-Nibali-and-Wiggins-are-not-yet-champions.aspx

Also Nico Roche's view on Twitter

Nicholas Roche‏@nicholasroche
" I think wiggo had a great year, and like the way nibali rides, alway on the attack. 3 gt podiums in 18 months! Defo not a bad rider"

buffalo · 07-11-2012 05:48PM

bump!

Say what you want about Team Sky's style, Wiggins is certainly entertaining off the bike!

Tour de France winner says Armstrong “can get f***ed” if he doped during 2009/10 comeback

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13243/Bradley-Wiggins-I-get-incredibly-angry-when-Im-accused-of-doping.aspx

I know there's been a few outspoken riders, but I'd prefer to see more reactions like this - outright anger and disgust.

MPFG · 16-11-2012 01:28PM

For Wiggo fans -

A Year in Yellow ...Bradely Wiggins documentary on SKY Atlntic on 21st November

http://skyatlantic.sky.com/bradley-wiggins-tour-of-duty/bradley-wiggins-a-year-in-yellow-promo

MungoMan · 17-11-2012 02:46PM

I'm a massive fan of Wiggins, what an amazing career he is having.

I don't quite understand people saying his tour win had some element of luck, or that he's boring.......

He won the tour against about 200 other top professionals, over 3 weeks of riding, how could luck explain that ? He's just a phenomenal athlete, a once in a generation rider from a UK point of view.

He's not boring, he's just an intelligent rider who conserves his energy when he can, he doesnt attack in the mountains like some of the guys of the past, some of whose names are tainted. But he knows how to win.

For me, he is the best grand tour rider from these islands since Stephen Roche a quarter century ago.

nipper67 · 17-11-2012 10:42PM

hi all
was a fan of brad untill he and team sky stoped froone from cycling away from him and winning tdf for him self big mistake for froone i think. its like f1 crap. there should be no team orders if either men could win it kills the sport also on our s roche didint he have to be lifted off his bike at the top of a mountin ....... and put on some BA and the very next day win a mountin stage some air in those bottles??? keep the faith.

Captain Havoc · 18-11-2012 04:03PM

ck101, your link has nothing to do with doping

thesultan · 28-12-2012 11:15PM

His sidelocks are class. Mods rule

Darkglasses · 29-12-2012 02:02AM

Arise, Sir Wiggo.

12 sprocket · 29-12-2012 09:57AM

THeres a link to a record of the Worlds Pursuit Championships going back to the 50s and 60s when some of the Worlds best pros were more inclined to ride the Pursuit Champs.. THere must have been some financial motivation for the Pros then whereas there would be little or nothing added to the current top road rider earning potential if they were to win the worlds Pursuit champs..

THere is a lot of names in the Pursuit champs records Anquetil, Coppi, Altig, moser that won theTour or World Road Champs so it seems like there is some correlation between pursuit performances and big tours and long one day races.. So nothing too surprising that Bradley Wiggins can win the Tour with great training and Team support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCI_Track_Cycling_World_Championships_%E2%80%93_Men's_individual_pursuit

awec · 29-12-2012 10:56PM

Sir Wiggins, whilst it has a great ring to it, must be one of the most premature knighthoods ever bestowed.

In saying that, I'd give my right ball to be knighted.

Surveyor11 · 30-12-2012 01:28AM

awec wrote: »

Sir Wiggins, whilst it has a great ring to it, must be one of the most premature knighthoods ever bestowed.

In saying that, I'd give my right ball to be knighted.

Dunno, TDF in the bag and Olympic champion ain't too shabby for one year! Fair play I say to the good sir!

gwakamoley · 30-12-2012 12:04PM

Surveyor11 wrote: »

Dunno, TDF in the bag and Olympic champion ain't too shabby for one year! Fair play I say to the good sir!

It hasn't just been a year either, he has a total of 7 Olympic medals to his name.

furiousox · 30-12-2012 12:55PM

awec wrote: »

Sir Wiggins, whilst it has a great ring to it, must be one of the most premature knighthoods ever bestowed.
In saying that, I'd give my right ball to be knighted.

LA would too right now.

Beasty · 30-12-2012 03:05PM

Sir Lancenotalot (of balls)

derek897 · 30-12-2012 11:01PM

corny · 02-01-2013 05:45PM

Kimmage unconvinced by Sky and Wiggins

Favourable course, dominant team, London 2012, Sir Brad.... they did a great job in promoting cycling in the UK this year anyway.:rolleyes:

ashleey · 02-01-2013 06:17PM

I liked Paul kimmage's book and respect his journalism but he might be asking for more trouble now. Let's face it Lance had won pretty much nothing then won the Tour after cancer. Sir Wiggins had a cabinet full of Olympic medals before going onto the road. This could get messy. Having said that, he does have a point about how strong the team were with no off days. I still can't see that Wiggins took anything though.

drogdub · 02-01-2013 06:43PM

But they had no massivly outstanding days either. Which is the other half of the no bad days equation. It was just very consistant.

happytramp · 02-01-2013 07:55PM

drogdub wrote: »

But they had no massivly outstanding days either. Which is the other half of the no bad days equation. It was just very consistant.

Lets be honest. They consistently rode as a pack at the front of every single climb. The likes of Rodgers dropping off noted climbers on a daily basis.

In the light of recent events it would be crazy, and Frankly insulting to the likes of Walsh, the Andreau's etc not to keep asking questions. Until such a time that questions truly no longer need to be asked. But I'm afraid that time has not yet arrived, not by far. Wiggin's himself said in the past that there should be doubts cast over every tour winner for at least seven years afterwards. Funny how he's changed that tune..... Actually it's not funny, it's bloody disgraceful.

drogdub · 02-01-2013 08:17PM

happytramp wrote: »

Lets be honest. They consistently rode as a pack at the front of every single climb. The likes of Rodgers dropping off noted climbers on a daily basis.

In the light of recent events it would be crazy, and Frankly insulting to the likes of Walsh, the Andreau's etc not to keep asking questions. Until such a time that questions truly no longer need to be asked. But I'm afraid that time has not yet arrived, not by far. Wiggin's himself said in the past that there should be doubts cast over every tour winner for at least seven years afterwards. Funny how he's changed that tune..... Actually it's not funny, it's bloody disgraceful.

Totaly agree, questions should be asked, but I would be more worried if Wiggo jumped out of the Peleton on a single stage and took three or four minutes on a mountain.

Beasty · 02-01-2013 08:29PM

Whatever questions anyone feels must be asked, the situation on Boards remains the same - doping speculation is not permitted, so please don't do it

And if anyone has any questions about this, please PM me - do not respond in-thread

Thanks

Beasty

C3PO · 02-01-2013 08:33PM

Reading and enjoying Wiggo's book at the moment. Personally I'd much prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope not to be proven wrong! I can't see there being much pleasure in continuing to watch bike racing if you are skeptical about every winner!

happytramp · 02-01-2013 08:46PM

C3PO wrote: »

Reading and enjoying Wiggo's book at the moment. Personally I'd much prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope not to be proven wrong! I can't see there being much pleasure in continuing to watch bike racing if you are skeptical about every winner!

Same here. I'm not really skeptical about Wiggins in specific as I don't think he did anything that crazy. He did two great tt's and was decent in the mountains, nothing overly worrying there (sure Indurain did the same thing for years) Boring but effective. That said, I'm still glad Kimmage is asking tough questions of Brailsford.

seve65 · 02-01-2013 08:46PM

just finished 'my time' and he comes across as very much and ordinary guy wrapped up in what he is doing, and not always on the ball.

However, questions should always be asked, but his line about not wanting to be seen to be as the cheating Dad dropping his kids off at the local school is at a human level is exactly the kind of sentiment that gives great succour to the facts. I think most who read the book would be convinced by his thoughts. He did seem to get confused a fair bit during the tour with some of the episodes with Froome, whereas to the casual observer it didnt seem like it needed great foresight to see what was happening, or maybe it was a bit more subtle and he just didnt want to say exactly what he thought was happening in the book.

Raam · 02-01-2013 08:49PM

Kimmage is keeping the pressure on and asking good questions. That's more than a lot of the fan-boy press do. No point in seeing Lance outed and then saying nothing when similarities are observed.

corny · 02-01-2013 09:02PM

C3PO wrote: »

Reading and enjoying Wiggo's book at the moment. Personally I'd much prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope not to be proven wrong! I can't see there being much pleasure in continuing to watch bike racing if you are skeptical about every winner!

There's not unfortunately but history proves that the scepticism is normally correct.

In general you can't bury your head in the sand and just hope allegations aren't true. Thats what the majority did during the Armstrong years.

For what its worth i think as long as the UCI remain in charge of testing and promotion scepticism can be the order of the day.

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