Tipping; do you still do it?

Pottler · 23-12-2012 12:26AM

gallag wrote: »

I have a nice car for my taxi, always make sure it has plenty of rear leg room and never more than 18months old, I do this because I am providing a service to my customers, why would you feel better if I provided a **** car to maximise my profit?

Makes perfect sense to me, but loads won't get it for some unfathomable reason. I'll also bet you make a buck driving a Taxi, yet loads will moan that there's no money at it. People mystify me when it comes to money, they spend all day every day chasing it, scrimping it, worrying about it and never having any. It's when you forget about it that you start not having to worry about it, but people would say you were daft when you try to explain that.

23-12-2012 12:28AM

In restaurants yeah

Pottler · 23-12-2012 12:39AM

Doom wrote: »

So you just proved that the people you go to, do not do their jobs properly when paid to do so.....you are part of the problem this country is in.....well done

I love your logic. Ok, I don't even get your logic, but I love it anyway. I'm gonna reach for the positive and just take the bit in bold tho, if that's ok. It's all Doom with you, isn't it. Here's a Tip, lighten up.

Tom_Cruise · 23-12-2012 12:41AM

Yes i sometimes so tip.

petersburg2002 · 23-12-2012 12:46AM

We had a family lunch recently. They mixed up a few of the orders. But the restaurant had a new French waiter. The women were fawning over him. He certainly got tips and more besides.

mikemac1 · 23-12-2012 12:58AM

gallag wrote: »

I have a nice car for my taxi, always make sure it has plenty of rear leg room and never more than 18months old, I do this because I am providing a service to my customers, why would you feel better if I provided a **** car to maximise my profit?

You upgrade your car that often on a taximans takings?

I won't listen to the poor mouth from taximen every again

gallag · 23-12-2012 01:05AM

mikemac1 wrote: »

You upgrade your car that often on a taximans takings?

I won't listen to the poor mouth from taximen every again

On a taximans takings?? I have never "poor mouthed" a customer :-)

therealgirl · 23-12-2012 01:07AM

Shryke wrote: »

Never tipped, never had money falling out of my pockets. Never lived in America where tipping is an actual thing. Here it's just stupid.

I used to work in a kinda plush resteraunt, here in Ireland, where I came out with around 80 quid a night with tips...them were the days

Tails142 · 23-12-2012 01:18AM

Only place I never tip when generally expected to, is bell boys in hotels, they always insist on carrying your bags up and then there's always that akward moment when they're in the room trying to get past you and a sort of pause when they see if you're going to tip them.

I am a male in my late 20's, I can manage to get my case to the lift and to the room, do they really expect to be tipped €5 or something?

Where To · 23-12-2012 01:26AM

bluewolf wrote: »

In restaurants yeah

I'd let you eat in my cab if you gave me a big tip

Mint Sauce · 23-12-2012 01:31AM

therealgirl wrote: »

I used to work in a kinda plush resteraunt, here in Ireland, where I came out with around 80 quid a night with tips...them were the days

Done bar/floor work part time for a couple of years in my early 20's, getting really crappy wages. On a good night the tips could be up to double my earnings.

My name is URL · 23-12-2012 01:36AM

bluewolf wrote: »

In restaurants yeah

I really hate the idea of being expected to tip at restaurants. In the US; many places include a service charge and people are still expected to tip. You'll get dirty looks if you don't put forward the all holy 15%... I've even seen it in a few Irish places lately.

Having food that you have paid for brought to your table isn't an additional service.. If you barge into the kitchen and start plating up your own food there aren't going to be waiters thanking you for making their job easier.

Stheno · 23-12-2012 01:38AM

Generally yes

If service is poor I don't or I reduce it.

Usually add on 10% I remember working in bars/restaurants and tips making a big difference to my overall pay

mikemac1 · 23-12-2012 01:39AM

Book a table for two and no service charge
Book a table for 8 and there will often be a service charge

Only in the restuarant business do they charge you more if you are a good customer and spending plenty
Any other business and you'd be getting a discount!

Example

Cedrus · 23-12-2012 02:38AM

It's been a while since a restaurant server inspired me to leave a tip, I don't really mind getting dirty cutlery or the wrong order so long a it it is changed quickly and gracefully, but too often I get a "it's nothing to do with me response". When the food quality is weak,I've been told "Its what everyone wants, you're the only person complaining" There will be no tip from me on those evenings. BUT, the missus always insist on a 10 % supercharge, regardless.

False Prophet · 23-12-2012 02:59AM

Im Irish and living in Ireland so dont tip. :cool:

Imo I always think tipping is a bit of showing off/charity.

That said i used love getting the extra tip from a summer job when helping americans etc

Mr Simpson · 23-12-2012 03:20AM

I tip if the service is good, I don't if it isn't. Hookers have bills too ya know.

Liveforrugby · 23-12-2012 03:23AM

I tip, and have always tipped, at the beginning to ensure a great service

Stheno · 23-12-2012 03:27AM

Liveforrugby wrote: »

I tip, and have always tipped, at the beginning to ensure a great service

What do you do if the service is rubbish then?

niallu · 23-12-2012 04:08AM

I'd tip in restaurants and when getting the hair cut.

Not so much in taxi's though. Might round it to the closest euro but thats it.

I think the american way of tipping is stooopid though.

Czarcasm · 23-12-2012 04:58AM

niallu wrote: »

I'd tip in restaurants and when getting the hair cut.

Not so much in taxi's though. Might round it to the closest euro but thats it.

I think the american way of tipping is stooopid though.

It's actually not as stupid as you might think, if you think about it-

The pay in the hospitality, catering and services sector in the States is crap, and many busboys/busgirls actually depend on tips to give them a decent standard of living. This motivates them to work harder to provide a better service to their customers, in the hope that they get better tips.

Here in Ireland the minimum wage is so high that the motivation just isn't there for a waiter/waitress to provide a better service, and tipping is just a hangover from the celtic tiger era which we copied from American culture. There is no other particular reason for it as many restaurants in Ireland the service is actually NOT as good as it could be, simply because it doesn't have to be.

I'll tip a waiter/waitress if I am a regular customer in the restaurant and I am provided with an exceptional service that I know to be above the norm. Having worked as a waiter, night porter and barman myself, my experience of tipping has varied anywhere from no tips to generous tips. But every customer received the same treatment regardless, a service that was above and beyond expectations, because you would hope that the no-tippers might leave a tip the next time, and the generous tippers would be even more generous.

FanadMan · 23-12-2012 05:26AM

Normally in taxis - I talk as much pooh as the drivers so it's nice to have a real captive audience

23-12-2012 05:42AM

Pottler wrote: »

I always tip the Barber a tenner,

Mother of Jesus the "tip" is a tenner? I don't think I've had a haircut in my life where that was the full price, nevermind the tip!

For me I have no problem doing it, but I'd kind of need to think the guy earned it. Tipping is after all based on courtesy and service, not just free money you're expected to throw to any chancer because Hollywood movies have planted the idea in the heads of Irish people.

B.A._Baracus · 23-12-2012 05:43AM

Tipping is a load of bollix when you think about it.

Lets take the average tipping job. Thats delivery drivers of takeaways. If you don't tip, many will leave your place last to deliver. BUT!!!!!! Will still eventually deliever to get their €1.40 (or whatever price) charge.

Now things are two part on this one... (1,) what, that 1.40 per delivery isnt good enough for the driver? That the speediness of your food depends on how much you tip? Even tho drivers get a flat rate + keep tips? and (2,) even tho you are paying for the meal and delivery you are 'forced' to part with more?

Procrastastudy · 23-12-2012 05:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Mother of Jesus the "tip" is a tenner? I don't think I've had a haircut in my life where that was the full price, nevermind the tip!

For me I have no problem doing it, but I'd kind of need to think the guy earned it. Tipping is after all based on courtesy and service, not just free money you're expected to throw to any chancer because Hollywood movies have planted the idea in the heads of Irish people.

Believe me if my barber makes me look good a tenner tip is the least I can do.

Czarcasm · 23-12-2012 05:51AM

For the benefit of the poster who ninja deleted their post referring to the fact that tips are the reason the restaurant services sector is exempt from paying the minimum wage-

This comes with special conditions attached:

Tipped employees

Any worker who earns regular tips (specified as earning at least $30 in tips a month by the FLSA) is eligible for a special minimum wage rate. Employers are permitted to pay tipped employees an hourly cash wage of as little as $2.13/hr- however, if this wage and the tips earned during that hour do not add up to at least the applicable minimum wage, the employer must make up the difference in cash. Thus, tipped employees are guaranteed to earn at least minimum wage, and can earn more then minimum wage in tips.

Source: http://www.minimum-wage.org/minimum-wage-exemptions.asp

Czarcasm · 23-12-2012 05:57AM

Procrastastudy wrote: »

Believe me if my barber makes me look good a tenner tip is the least I can do.

How much are you actually being charged for a haircut if you don't mind my asking? The average say costing €20, and you leave a 50% tip? That's not a tip, that's just throwing money away tbh!

Now if it was €100 you were being charged for your haircut, a 10% tip sounds a bit more reasonable.

DylanII · 23-12-2012 06:01AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Tipping is a load of bollix when you think about it.

Lets take the average tipping job. Thats delivery drivers of takeaways. If you don't tip, many will leave your place last to deliver. BUT!!!!!! Will still eventually deliever to get their €1.40 (or whatever price) charge.

Now things are two part on this one... (1,) what, that 1.40 per delivery isnt good enough for the driver? That the speediness of your food depends on how much you tip? Even tho drivers get a flat rate + keep tips? and (2,) even tho you are paying for the meal and delivery you are 'forced' to part with more?

You are not forced to pay more. Someone's food has to come last. I look at tipping as paying for the premium service. . . If you want standard, then fine.

The extra euro or two will get you quicker, fresher food and a nicer delivery person. I'm sure they will also make sure to close your porch/gate and will try call your phone if you don't answer. It would be especially good if you lived in an appartment, as many places require you to come down to the car rather than the driver go up to the appartment.

They dont make that much, They have to pay for petrol, pay for the extra repairs to their car from the extra mileage, tyres, breaks, bulbs & wipers more often. And then the times they work (my local pizza is 5pm til 3am) and their car constant ally smells terrible.

I always tipped, I was shocked when I first realised people don't always tip.

Procrastastudy · 23-12-2012 12:53PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

How much are you actually being charged for a haircut if you don't mind my asking? The average say costing €20, and you leave a 50% tip? That's not a tip, that's just throwing money away tbh!

Now if it was €100 you were being charged for your haircut, a 10% tip sounds a bit more reasonable.

I was being smart but if I go man pampering then I use Sam's on the quays - so its a head massage, wash, cut for €25. I have left €10 but more often €5 and sometimes nowt. It very much depends on the service, whether it was the regular guy and whether I had it to be honest. To leave €2.50 to me seems like it wouldn't buy me what I want - which is to ensure I get the best possible service next time I'm there.

To answer the question;

Food delivery people - normally nothing. Reason: Doesnt get the food there any quicker. If it did (as it does with my long-standing curry house) then I would. I would also if they actually came into the complex - they don't so no tip.

Bell-boys - I carry my own bag. If not a fiver or a dollar a bag in the US. If you're staying in a Hotel for a period of time this is a fiver well invested. If you have an issue you're more likely (not guaranteed though) to get it sorted out quicker if you're seen as a good tipper. I've had some very nice upgrades.

Taxis - if he's got me there quicker than expected a euro or two. If he's been a racists/loud/annoying dick nothing. Although I have no objection to a Taximan having a chat some of them are actually good craic.

Restaurants - 10% rounded up for good service. Zero for crap service (sliding scale) and I'm VERY particular about service from waiting staff however.

Pottler · 23-12-2012 01:00PM

Haircuts a tenner, barbers a lad I know for years, I give him €20. Big deal. Not everyone is a broke student, believe it or not. I'd rather pay €20 and actually get a good cut so I don't look like a mong at work which in turn will cost me a hell of a lot more.

Tipping; do you still do it?

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