Guy avoids prison for slashing another guy's face

take everything · 22-12-2012 04:17PM #1

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/student-avoids-jail-for-drunken-assault-with-glass-3333890.html

This seems insane.
How do you avoid prison after slashing another guy's face after 20 pints.
I'm not a Joe Duffy type but i genuinely can't get my head around this.

Edit: Not sure if it's OK to copy the story.

upstairs for coffee · 22-12-2012 04:20PM

"Eamon Leahy (27) said he had 20 drinks – shots, pints and about seven cocktails – before carrying out the assault." - THIS IS NO EXCUSE

"The court heard Leahy had five previous convictions, including four public order offences. Counsel said his client wanted to express his deep remorse and shame and had brought €4,000 to court." - :mad:

Shryke · 22-12-2012 04:22PM

Should have brought the guy a new face.

mcwinning · 22-12-2012 04:24PM

Our whole legal system is a neverending torrent of ineptitude.

dodderangler · 22-12-2012 04:25PM

Sure he would've gotten bout 2 years of he killed him
Irish system is so fcuked up

3ndahalfof6 · 22-12-2012 04:26PM

so a guy and a guy eh.

take everything · 22-12-2012 04:28PM

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

so a guy and a guy eh.

Yes.
2 guys.

Shryke · 22-12-2012 04:28PM

eh

GLaDOS · 22-12-2012 04:30PM

upstairs for coffee wrote: »

and had brought €4,000 to court." - :mad:

Recent trend of buying your way out of prison continues it would seem

Tom_Cruise · 22-12-2012 04:31PM

Time the victim took justice into his own hands .

22-12-2012 05:08PM

Kind of puts to bed the theory that only women get away with this crap.

Should be locked up, and forfeit everything he has in compensation. So should the girl who bottled a guy in the face and got a suspended sentence.

My name is URL · 22-12-2012 05:11PM

The fact that he had prior convictions should have ensured that he was sent to prison. I think Ireland should introduce a 3 strikes system similar to that of the US.

madma · 22-12-2012 05:12PM

this is almost identical to that other story of that girl... both are 27 and bought are trinity students and both smashed a glass into the victims face...weird.

Heroditas · 22-12-2012 05:13PM

Trinity students, eh? Tsk tsk.

charlemont · 22-12-2012 05:18PM

If he was caught with a few ounces of Hash/Weed he would have been locked up. Some joke of a system.

22-12-2012 05:22PM

Similar to that woman that glassed the barman in the face causing him to have a scar on his nose. Convicted of assault but no prison sentence afaik.

woodoo · 22-12-2012 05:43PM

Our justice system and the UK's justice system is crap. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4709030/X-Factor-hopeful-avoids-jail-despite-having-glassed-her-boyfriend.html

It must be the common law system. Its crap.

jaffacakesyum · 22-12-2012 05:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Similar to that woman that glassed the barman in the face causing him to have a scar on his nose. Convicted of assault but no prison sentence afaik.

Yup, and hopefully this will prove that the other case wasn't a matter of "she's a woman, that's why she got an easy sentence" :rolleyes:

These things happen all the time and justice is never done, it's a disgrace but what do you expect from this country.

I know Ireland's economy is fúcked but I would probably be one of the few to actually support money being set aside to build a new prison in Ireland so that overcrowding can't be an excuse for these pathetic sentences.

sock puppet · 22-12-2012 05:53PM

Heroditas wrote: »

Trinity students, eh? Tsk tsk.

That's how we roll.

Wild_Dogger · 22-12-2012 06:06PM

I had the exact same happen me in the late 90's.

Thought I lost my eye , and my face was slashed open so wide that they were looking for part of my nose on the floor.

Offender was a family friend of a high ranking guard.
When it went to court, his chief character witness was one of the highest ranking Gardai in the state and claimed he had known the offender since he was a child etc.

The judge (who had barred media from the court) couldn't thank this gaurd enough for taking time from his job to stand by the offender.

Not surprisingly he got a 3 year suspended sentence. But handed over €5000 that his dad gave him.

I was rightly fooked by the system !

Dont know if the mod will let me name the people here , but am happy to disclose it all (gaurds names + offender etc) for verification.

To the credit of one, one inspector I dealt with was completely honest and helpful.
But I was warned off contacting the inspector again as he had come down on the other guard who was not pursuing the case properly.

notnumber · 22-12-2012 06:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Similar to that woman that glassed the barman in the face causing him to have a scar on his nose. Convicted of assault but no prison sentence afaik.

he has prior form which it makes it an even worse let off.

Panrich · 22-12-2012 06:30PM

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

I had the exact same happen me in the late 90's.

Thought I lost my eye , and my face was slashed open so wide that they were looking for part of my nose on the floor.

Offender was a family friend of a high ranking guard.
When it went to court, his chief character witness was one of the highest ranking Gardai in the state and claimed he had known the offender since he was a child etc.

The judge (who had barred media from the court) couldn't thank this gaurd enough for taking time from his job to stand by the offender.

Not surprisingly he got a 3 year suspended sentence. But handed over €5000 that his dad gave him.

I was rightly fooked by the system !

Dont know if the mod will let me name the people here , but am happy to disclose it all (gaurds names + offender etc) for verification.

To the credit of one, one inspector I dealt with was completely honest and helpful.
But I was warned off contacting the inspector again as he had come down on the other guard who was not pursuing the case properly.

That's a sickening story. Cnuts

hatrickpatrick · 22-12-2012 06:37PM

Another one? This is complete bullsh!t. Is there any actual explanation for the number of non-sentences for serious assaults?

EDIT: This is actually making my blood boil, I'm seriously contemplating writing a letter to Minister Shatter with a list of links to these articles and asking if there's any logical reason for it. Wonder what he'd say...

Duck Soup · 22-12-2012 07:07PM

In other news, a Trinity student from a good family was convicted of putting an entire orphanage of disabled children through a wood-chipper. He was given 3 hours community service and told "Say hello to your father for me when see him, will you Fintan?" by the judge.

Holsten · 22-12-2012 07:19PM

My name is URL wrote: »

The fact that he had prior convictions should have ensured that he was sent to prison. I think Ireland should introduce a 3 strikes system similar to that of the US.

3 strikes is a joke, you know with that law 3 small time crimes can land you in jail for life? So you rob something small 3 times - life. You get caught with weed 3 times - life.

the purple tin · 22-12-2012 07:25PM

You can get away with a lot in this country if you play the hoary 'problem with alcohol' card and promise to seek treatment etc.
See it a lot in the court pages 'usually a decent person blah blah, only violent when he drinks blah blah, is determined to turn over a new leaf blah. I bet most of the people who dodge gaol in this fashion are out getting hammered that night to celebrate.

My name is URL · 22-12-2012 07:26PM

Holsten wrote: »

3 strikes is a joke, you know with that law 3 small time crimes can land you in jail for life? So you rob something small 3 times - life. You get caught with weed 3 times - life.

I just said that something similar should be introduced here.. not that we should send people away for life for committing petty crimes =p

This guy had 5 previous convictions for public order offenses... it's absurd that he has managed to escape a prison term for this latest crime. With the real threat of a mandatory sentence, idiots like him would think twice before getting drunk enough to viciously assault someone.

the purple tin · 22-12-2012 07:29PM

Holsten wrote: »

3 strikes is a joke, you know with that law 3 small time crimes can land you in jail for life? So you rob something small 3 times - life. You get caught with weed 3 times - life.

Most states only use the 3 strikes system for felony crimes which would be more serious crime.

Madam_X · 22-12-2012 07:29PM

At least this maniac got a steeper sentence:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1221/breaking37.html

the purple tin · 22-12-2012 07:36PM

Madam_X wrote: »

At least this maniac got a steeper sentence:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1221/breaking37.html[/QUOTE]
Not half steep enough as far as I'm concerned.

hatrickpatrick · 22-12-2012 07:37PM

Serious assault causing harm should carry a mandatory sentence period, previous convictions or not. If you greviously injure someone through a deliberate act of violence, you do time, regardless of any other factors.

Sounds extreme, but what's ALSO extreme is the ridiculous amount of violent crime in this country...

Guy avoids prison for slashing another guy's face

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