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Stephen Fry on grammar Nazis

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭mitosis


    Red Hand wrote: »
    Lets!

    Let's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    I think it would be fair of that video to point out that while many best writers lacked good grammar, their publishers didn't, and wouldn't have published their works with glaring errors intact. Good grammar isn't an indicator of intelligence, but it can be quite difficult and frustrating to read something with lots of mistakes.

    Now, if I was a logic Nazi, can an inanimate unthinking video point anything out?



    It lacks hands for one thing!:pac:
    mitosis wrote: »
    Let's

    Let's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Retrovertigo


    mitosis wrote: »
    Let's

    Lettuce


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭Brain Stroking


    Lettuce

    Littbarski


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Littbarski

    Literal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    innit steefin innit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭LiamMc


    Red Hand wrote: »
    Literal.

    Light Your Farts On Fire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Spot on to be honest. The word he used that summed it up best imo is "sneering". I dont think grammar bullies have the slightest wish to improve grammar in general. My grammar isn't great but it wasn't someones "sneering" at my use of it that made me pay more attention to it. It was my belief that if I practice I can get better at it.

    I dont see why grammar bullies are given a free ride so to speak. If I bullied people about their knowledge of biology or someone else took apart another persons use of maths without prior provaction, we would be thought of as d1cks and rightfully so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭LiamMc


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Spot on to be honest. The word he used that summed it up best imo is "sneering". I dont think grammar bullies have the slightest wish to improve grammar in general. My grammar isn't great but it wasn't someones "sneering" at my use of it that made me pay more attention to it. It was my belief that if I practice I can get better at it.

    I dont see why grammar bullies are given a free ride so to speak. If I bullied people about their knowledge of biology or someone else took apart another persons use of maths without prior provaction, we would be thought of as d1cks and rightfully so.

    Fry was a Grammar Bully in the past himself, he is now at present a self-confessed Grammar Bully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Andy-Pandy wrote: »

    Great post, but you confused the hell out of me here.

    The schwa is the most common vowel sound, like "uh," so I mean pronouncing the word like "tuh" and not to rhyme with "too."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    Enjoyed that and agree with some of it but it's still a bit smug and 'right-on'.

    What are the 'loser' pedants Fry sneers at here really guilty of?

    Are they really doing any harm?

    I'd say their motivation is little different than what motivated Fry to write/vocalise this piece.

    Mainly, it's an attempt to separate themselves from those they feel they can look down upon, and win the approval of those whose approval, they hope, will make them feel better about themselves.

    Don't think the 'development' of language, whatever that means, is actually being stymied by pedants.

    In fact, pedants, just like 'innovators' have always existed, and if they have any effect at all, then, surely, they must have contributed to this 'development'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Red Hand wrote: »

    Now, if I was a logic Nazi, can an inanimate unthinking video point anything out?

    I actually believe that the internet has gained sentience and can indeed point something out if it so chooses.

    In fact, I believe that the video bumped this thread itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Andy-Pandy


    The schwa is the most common vowel sound, like "uh," so I mean pronouncing the word like "tuh" and not to rhyme with "too."

    Thanks for explaining it to me. I have always found grammar to be interesting, though I freely admit to having problems with "too" and "to", and "there" and "their" etc throughout the years.


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