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Did Georgie Burgess rape Sharon Curley?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    Burgess was obviously twisted aswell..... He thought she was Marilyn Monroe.

    on the bible


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    "Hey Burgess, do you know what id like to do with these.....SNip SNip !"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,713 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    Its a little known fact that Nicola O'Malley got detention after Natalie Rabbitte scribbled all over her sums.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Feckin' egit should've used protection though.

    You wouldn't be advising the use of artificial contraception now, Father, would you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,251 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Serious question. Watching The Snapper and that scene has never sit right with me - especially the way it's just glossed over. Was she too drunk to give consent in the scene on the car bonnet? I know times change and what's considered acceptable by society changes over time and it may not have been controversial at the time but judging by societal attitudes today, it's very dodgy.

    Ya dozy bollix!


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,600 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Would have been around '93 or '94.

    I also remember the hullabaloo when Mates first came out and had advertisements on the TV.

    Balls to Dairy Milk, the Mates condoms adverts were the best use of Phil Collins' "In the Air Tonight" in a commercial!

    Think it was earlier than that - I'm thinking about 1990/1991

    I was in college at the time and they were available for sale in the pharmacies at that stage..

    EDIT - I stand corrected , according to this they were available over the counter in "specified places" (pharmacies) since 1985 (from 1978 with a prescription!!!!!) and then available anywhere from 1992


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Think it was earlier than that - I'm thinking about 1990/1991

    I was in college at the time and they were available for sale in the pharmacies at that stage..
    When they were in Virgin Megastore though? Was it as early as that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,450 ✭✭✭Morag


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Think it was earlier than that - I'm thinking about 1990/1991

    I was in college at the time and they were available for sale in the pharmacies at that stage..

    It didn't change until 1993, before then you could get them but only if you had a perscription, after 1993 they became over the counter, but it wasn't until large chain chemists opened up that they were put on the floor and made easier to buy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Think it was earlier than that - I'm thinking about 1990/1991

    I was in college at the time and they were available for sale in the pharmacies at that stage..

    It was '91 when they went on sale in the virgin megastore :D;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    Bambi wrote: »
    I wonder is Roddy going to do to the immigrant community of dublin what he did to the working class?

    A lot of his new short stories are about immigrants.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Deportees_and_Other_Stories


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭mtjm


    Will somebody please think of poor Georgina Curly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 754 ✭✭✭repsol


    Serious question. Watching The Snapper and that scene has never sit right with me - especially the way it's just glossed over. Was she too drunk to give consent in the scene on the car bonnet? I know times change and what's considered acceptable by society changes over time and it may not have been controversial at the time but judging by societal attitudes today, it's very dodgy.

    If riding a bird who is drunk is going to be considered rape,they better build a lot more prisons! If it was rape it was very unfair of Sharon to implicate an innocent Spanish sailor:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Lumbo


    mtjm wrote: »
    Will somebody please think of poor Georgina Curly

    It's her children I feel sorry for ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 791 ✭✭✭alanceltic


    Bambi wrote: »
    I wonder is Roddy going to do to the immigrant community of dublin what he did to the working class?

    No needs.....

    Us Irish are the blacks of Europe, and us dubs are the blacks of Ireland, and us Northsiders are the blacks of Dublin..... Im black and Im proud :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,188 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    yeah they were legalised along with homosexuality in 1994, remember when the virgin megastore was prosecuted for selling them

    It's crazy to think how recent that is. It took us quite a while to get fully out of the Fifties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,006 ✭✭✭Ann22


    I was reading in a mag the other day a story about an 18yr old girl who collapsed in the street while drunk and woke the next morn butt naked in bed with a big sweaty greyhaired, unshaven, fat auld fella. She dressed quickly and ran out of the flat. After a few days or weeks even though she couldn't remember what had happened she went to the police. They took her deadly serious...checked out cctv footage and saw that she had collapsed and this creepy auld fella came along took her phone out of her hand and carried her off down the street. He was found guilty of rape. Probably the grossness of the auld fella and the fact that the girl was so young and pretty went in her favour. Imagine that happening to you. Fcuk knows what he did with her in the bed and her out cold...yuck!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Ann22 wrote: »
    It was about an 18yr old girl who collapsed in the street while drunk and woke the next morn butt naked in bed with a big sweaty greyhaired, unshaven, fat auld fella. She dressed quickly and ran out of the flat. After a few days or weeks even though she couldn't remember what had happened she went to the police. They took her deadly serious...checked out cctv footage and saw that she had collapsed and this creepy auld fella came along took her phone out of her hand and carried her off down the street. He was found guilty of rape. Probably the grossness of the auld fella and the fact that the girl was so young and pretty went in her favour. Imagine that happening to you. Fcuk knows what he did with her in the bed and her out cold...yuck!!!!!!
    Did you buy your copy off of some dodgy market stall?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,006 ✭✭✭Ann22


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Did you buy your copy off of some dodgy market stall?

    I deleted the first firew words of my post by mistake, just fixed it. Think the story it was either in 'Pick me up' or 'Real People' magazine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Serious question. Watching The Snapper and that scene has never sit right with me - especially the way it's just glossed over. Was she too drunk to give consent in the scene on the car bonnet? I know times change and what's considered acceptable by society changes over time and it may not have been controversial at the time but judging by societal attitudes today, it's very dodgy.

    Sure what about the rape scene in Wedding Crashers. All treated as one big hilarious joke. And why?





    Because it's a female raping a male.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    The amount of shìte in this garden and we've only the one dog!

    I love that movie so much :) always makes me laugh


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Johnnys must have been over the counter in '91, I had my first posh **** to this, would have been 14/15 at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    I don't think they were illegal in 1993...

    I think that up until 1993 they could only be sold to married people be prescription

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭AngryHippie


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Sure what about the rape scene in Wedding Crashers. All treated as one big hilarious joke. And why?





    Because it's a female raping a male.

    NNNNNIIIIIICCCCCEEEEE!!!:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam



    I think that up until 1993 they could only be sold to married people be prescription
    They were selling them in virgin before that and they weren't only on prescription at that time. So far from illegal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Always makes me uncomfortable when rape is defined in terms of someone was drunk when they consent! It's not that
    I don't agree that it happens, it's more that by that definition there are hundreds of men (and women) in coppers etc who commit rape every weekend. The other bit that bothers me is that generally (not always) both parties are drunk, yet somehow it's the male who's expected to be accountable by certain commentators

    (I vaguely remember that Tony Blair wanted to criminalise this in the uk until someone pointed out the problems)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Love the bit where Dessie opens the back door to the dog, "Go on inside, they're all in the living room!" and in the dog goes :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Gauss


    Zebra3 wrote: »

    Sure what about the rape scene in Wedding Crashers. All treated as one big hilarious joke. And why?





    Because it's a female raping a male.

    Didn't you get the memo. Women raping men is hilarious whereas men raping women is despicable.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,838 ✭✭✭midlandsmissus


    tritium wrote: »
    Always makes me uncomfortable when rape is defined in terms of someone was drunk when they consent! It's not that
    I don't agree that it happens, it's more that by that definition there are hundreds of men (and women) in coppers etc who commit rape every weekend. The other bit that bothers me is that generally (not always) both parties are drunk, yet somehow it's the male who's expected to be accountable by certain commentators

    (I vaguely remember that Tony Blair wanted to criminalise this in the uk until someone pointed out the problems)

    But if you think about it properly - it's not right to have sex with some-one who is very very drunk, and the social scene in Ireland - wait till everyone is very drunk and then approach them is not nice or normal and needs to change.

    Why are you (not you specifically) approaching people who are very drunk for a shag, if you think about it and are being really honest - it is because their defenses are lowered. Is this a right or good way to go about things with other human beings?

    Just because 'everyone is doing it' doesn't make it right. People need to analyse their own actions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭bigpoppa


    It's not rape if you provide both a compliment, in this case "good girl" and immediately follow it up with a rating, in this case "A1"


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Gauss



    But if you think about it properly - it's not right to have sex with some-one who is very very drunk, and the social scene in Ireland - wait till everyone is very drunk and then approach them is not nice or normal and needs to change.

    Why are you (not you specifically) approaching people who are very drunk for a shag, if you think about it and are being really honest - it is because their defenses are lowered. Is this a right or good way to go about things with other human beings?

    Just because 'everyone is doing it' doesn't make it right. People need to analyse their own actions.

    That's not the mindset, people wait til they are drunk enough to approach to reduce their own anxiety generally, they aren't waiting for others to get drunk.


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