Nice guys should just accept bachelorhood?

creeper1 · 12-12-2012 04:55PM #1

Word of wisdom from a audio-blogger.:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61_R2X3Pr1I

He discusses the well known fact that women aren't attracted to nice guys. There are many reasons for this. Ranging from nice guys being too boring to not being like alpha males.

We are more like animals that we realise IMHO. In a animal environment it is only the alpha male. The baddest, strongest, most attitude filled stag that gets mating rights to all the females.

And if any of the other stags have the audacity to try to mate with females the alpha male will come and stick horns up his ass!

Or murder the poor sod!!

The worst of the worst is the nice guy that takes care of the baby fathered by another man. Darwin (and me) would be disgusted by you.

So is bachelorhood a better options for nice guys. In my opinion it probably is. There are women that can paid to satisfy your needs. Way preferable to supporting to the child of another.

Chucky the tree · 12-12-2012 05:01PM

I think single guys/girls who complain about being single and not finding someone just use the "no nice guys/girls out there" as a handy excuse to blame someone else for their own shortcomings.

Dravokivich · 12-12-2012 05:02PM

If being an Alpha Male means dumping a child on a woman, I'd rather be a nice guy.

seven_eleven · 12-12-2012 05:04PM

Oh god I'm so alone

kneemos · 12-12-2012 05:04PM

Do alpha males have the biggest horns then?

pablomakaveli · 12-12-2012 05:05PM

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I think single guys/girls who complain about being single and not finding someone just use the "no nice guys/girls out there" as a handy excuse to blame someone else for their own shortcomings.

I hate this. "All my ex-boyfriends/girlfriends keep cheating on me all the time why aren't there any nice guys/girls out there"

Its because you're the idiot who keeps picking cheaters over better people.:mad:

Sauve · 12-12-2012 05:06PM

Plenty of nice guys are filthy animals in bed. It's possible to have both believe it or not

creeper1 · 12-12-2012 05:06PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

If being an Alpha Male means dumping a child on a woman, I'd rather be a nice guy.

You don't understand. You are more successful in Darwinian terms. You have passed on your genes.

The guy who feeds and clothes your children is the real loser (since you make sure that guy isn't you and you are free to impregnate other women)

Attabear · 12-12-2012 05:07PM

creeper1 wrote: »

So is bachelorhood a better options for nice guys. In my opinion it probably is. There are women that can paid to satisfy your needs. Way preferable to supporting to the child of another.

This is a very depressing view of the world.

Very depressing indeed.

1ZRed · 12-12-2012 05:07PM

The more threads of this I see the more I start to think 'nice guys' are fucking whiners, at least the very vocal ones that bitch and complain women only want assholes and feel so hard done by it all.

It's of course bullshit. Nobody wants to end up with an asshole but there is a thing as being too much of a pushover and overly nice with no sense of messing around -that's not attractive.

I think a lot of these guys that complain need to learn to just get on with it and stop obsessing about what women want and how they should get so much attention because they're "so nice" and just enjoy themselves in the meantime.

Czarcasm · 12-12-2012 05:08PM

creeper1 wrote: »

Word of wisdom from a audio-blogger.:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61_R2X3Pr1I

He discusses the well known fact that women aren't attracted to nice guys. There are many reasons for this. Ranging from nice guys being too boring to not being like alpha males.

We are more like animals that we realise IMHO. In a animal environment it is only the alpha male. The baddest, strongest, most attitude filled stag that gets mating rights to all the females.

And if any of the other stags have the audacity to try to mate with females the alpha male will come and stick horns up his ass! Or murder the poor sod!!

The worst of the worst is the nice guy that takes care of the baby fathered by another man. Darwin (and me) would be disgusted by you.

So is bachelorhood a better options for nice guys. In my opinion it probably is. There are women that can paid to satisfy your needs. Way preferable to supporting to the child of another.

What a load of horseshìte! Jesus! :pac:

tonycascarino · 12-12-2012 05:10PM

For every old sock there is an old shoe

Richard Hillman · 12-12-2012 05:10PM

kneemos wrote: »

Do alpha males have the biggest horns then?

In some cases yes but sometimes others are craftier or may get a lucky shot in the heat of battle. In other cases its not the bigger the horn the creature has its all about who can swing it about the most, such as the peacock.

smash · 12-12-2012 05:10PM

Maybe nice guys should act the bollox a bit more?

Sittingpretty · 12-12-2012 05:11PM

Sauve wrote: »

Plenty of nice guys are filthy animals in bed. It's possible to have both believe it or not

+1

Not every woman craves a bastard.

To think so is a bit misogynistic really.

Dravokivich · 12-12-2012 05:12PM

creeper1 wrote: »

You don't understand. You are more successful in Darwinian terms. You have passed on your genes.

The guy who feeds and clothes your children is the real loser (since you make sure that guy isn't you and you are free to impregnate other women)

I do understand. But we don't attach values in such social traits any more. This I feel you don't understand.

intellectual dosser · 12-12-2012 05:12PM

OP - Have you ever met a happily married man who was a bit of a softy at the same time?

The answer should be "Yes, lots of them", it is for me anyway.

creeper1 · 12-12-2012 05:12PM

Attabear wrote: »

This is a very depressing view of the world.

Very depressing indeed.

Yeah well the world is the way it is. We don't choose the way it is we just have to accept what is.

Women don't want assholes but they can't help but be ATTRACTED to them.

ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE. And attraction leads to nights of pleasure in bed.

That leads to babies.

Women are as much victims as nice guys. THEY CAN'T HELP BUT FEEL THAT ATTRACTION. IT IS A BIOLOGICAL NEED.

My point is - this is biology. It is natures law.

THE STRONG SURVIVE THROUGH PASSING ON THEIR GENES.

the weak (nice guys) get the scraps thrown to them.

Scanlas The 2nd · 12-12-2012 05:14PM

Sittingpretty wrote: »

+1

Not every woman craves a bastard.

To think so is a bit misogynistic really.

How would that belief be mysogynistic?

Bipolar Joe · 12-12-2012 05:14PM

1ZRed wrote: »

Nobody wants to end up with an asshole

Unless they are gay.

Anywho, I'm pretty OK with not being an "Alpha" male. I'm kind of goofy looking and Darwin wise don't have a lot going for me. But I don't want to be with the type of person who would want to be with the "Alpha" male.

super_furry · 12-12-2012 05:14PM

The initial post is a rambling, incoherent mess. The thread goes downhill from these.

Dravokivich · 12-12-2012 05:14PM

Why don't you just go and pass on you genes then?

I'm sure kleenex would appreciate the business.

Sauve · 12-12-2012 05:15PM

creeper1 wrote: »

the weak (nice guys) get the scraps thrown to them.

Ooohhhh no you didn't *finger snap*
:pac:

Which category are you in, OP?

Bipolar Joe · 12-12-2012 05:15PM

creeper1 wrote: »

Yeah well the world is the way it is. We don't choose the way it is we just have to accept what is.

Women don't want assholes but they can't help but be ATTRACTED to them.

ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE. And attraction leads to nights of pleasure in bed.

That leads to babies.

Women are as much victims as nice guys. THEY CAN'T HELP BUT FEEL THAT ATTRACTION. IT IS A BIOLOGICAL NEED.

My point is - this is biology. It is natures law.

THE STRONG SURVIVE THROUGH PASSING ON THEIR GENES.

the weak (nice guys) get the scraps thrown to them.

We might be animals, but we've evolved well beyond that being the absolute for attraction.

1ZRed · 12-12-2012 05:15PM

creeper1 wrote: »

Yeah well the world is the way it is. We don't choose the way it is we just have to accept what is.

Women don't want assholes but they can't help but be ATTRACTED to them.

ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE. And attraction leads to nights of pleasure in bed.

That leads to babies.

Women are as much victims as nice guys. THEY CAN'T HELP BUT FEEL THAT ATTRACTION. IT IS A BIOLOGICAL NEED.

My point is - this is biology. It is natures law.

THE STRONG SURVIVE THROUGH PASSING ON THEIR GENES.

the weak (nice guys) get the scraps thrown to them.

Generalisations. Always a favourite of the poor 'nice guy' who can't find a girl so he shifts the blame onto them.

Scanlas The 2nd · 12-12-2012 05:16PM

creeper1 wrote: »

ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE. .

I've heard that slogan before.

Gummy Panda · 12-12-2012 05:16PM

This topic comes up several times on AH.

Generally the consensus is most guys who say they are "nice guys" are not nice guys but are insecure and controlling. They put women on these weird pedestals like they need to be won and become friends trying to manipulate them into being their girlfriend.

Wompa1 · 12-12-2012 05:17PM

1ZRed wrote: »

The more threads of this I see the more I start to think 'nice guys' are fucking whiners, at least the very vocal ones that bitch and complain women only want assholes and feel so hard done by it all.

It's of course bullshit. Nobody wants to end up with an asshole but there is a thing as being too much of a pushover and overly nice with no sense of messing around -that's not attractive.

I think a lot of these guys that complain need to learn to just get on with it and stop obsessing about what women want and how they should get so much attention because they're "so nice" and just enjoy themselves in the meantime.

I think the argument is that women are attracted to the @ssholes, not that they want to end up with one. I think it all balances out anyhow. Nice guys turn into @ssholes after a while of being passed over.

I think it's all about confidence. @ssholes treating women like dirt are perceived to be confident, even though it's completely the wrong type of confidence. But maybe women can't pick up on that.

We're probably all better off single. Relationships are hard work.

Dodge · 12-12-2012 05:17PM

creeper1 wrote: »

He discusses the well known fact that women aren't attracted to nice guys

Women aren't attracted to men who whinge that women aren't attracted to nice guys, thats for certain.

hatrickpatrick · 12-12-2012 05:18PM

Ah, this thread again. :rolleyes:
If you want to REALLY be an alpha male, the following is pretty much the only advice that counts:

smash · 12-12-2012 05:18PM

Dodge wrote: »

Women aren't attracted to me

Some day you'll find one.

Nice guys should just accept bachelorhood?

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