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DEFTLEFTHAND · 05-12-2012 06:02PM

CruelCoin wrote: »

The airforce is a glorified chauffeur corp.

For an air force to not have a single, not one, plane capable of firing a weapon is ridiculous.

They're an Air Corps though not an Air Force. They do provide a good service in assisting the work of the Gardai and coast guards. They also assist the Navy by providing maritime patrols.

Skill Magill · 05-12-2012 06:09PM

"THE PPARS (personnel, payroll and related systems) computer system used by the HSE was a disaster."
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/ppars-fiasco-as-costs-hit-220m-1891230.html

Pilotdude5 · 05-12-2012 06:16PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

They're an Air Corps though not an Air Force. They do provide a good service in assisting the work of the Gardai and coast guards. They also assist the Navy by providing maritime patrols.

I've always thought the Casa's should be absorbed into the Naval Service and be based at Shannon, and the Helicopters into the army. I don't really see a need for the PC-9's at all, though I am open to correction on that. Baldonnel could be closed down. The service they provide would surely be maintained.

dj jarvis · 05-12-2012 06:35PM

sheikhnguyen wrote: »

Never happened. No UN peace keeping force would ever be deployed to an area where they would be faced by an enemy equipped with armour. You are right about a modern military requiring an anti tank capability, however Ireland will never ever be capable of fighting a modern war, thus the use of modern weapons is redundant. Again any country capable of transporting vehicles that require guided missiles to destroy to Ireland have already defeated us. The money would be better spent on the garda siochana or on fishery patrol vessels.

your forgetting the power on part of our island that could just drive down the m1 - no need for transporting them anywhere
and then you over look trouble from inside - coup or civil war
the notion that a army , even as small as ours does not need the javlin is a bit short sighted , and that is me being polite

you do know the target does not HAVE to be Armoured that they want to hit , can be a bunker - or a pick up truck full of head bangers

fasttalkerchat · 05-12-2012 06:37PM

black francis wrote: »

Bord Plenala aren't a funding authority - they just deal with planning appeals.

My point is that if the plan hadn't been scrapped by that point, surely they were going to go ahead with regardless of the recession.

Pompey Magnus · 05-12-2012 06:46PM

In 2009 FAS opened a new training center in Mount Lucas, Co. Offaly...basically a bog road in the middle of nowhere, however this particular middle of nowhere just happened to be in Brian Cowen's constituency.

Total cost: €6.7m
Total students trained:12
Current Status: Closed.

kumate_champ07 · 05-12-2012 06:48PM

smash wrote: »

County Donegal as a whole.... billions :pac:

how so?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 05-12-2012 06:57PM

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

how so?

If anything over the years Donegal compared to other counties probably had the least amount spent on it considering the state of its roads and standard of public transport, (no rail connection for instance)

kumate_champ07 · 05-12-2012 07:05PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

If anything over the years Donegal compared to other counties probably had the least amount spent on it considering the state of its roads and standard of public transport, (no rail connection for instance)

thats what I mean, theres not much going on up there but some beautiful scenery, some of which has been raped by holiday homes

donegal_road · 05-12-2012 07:31PM

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

thats what I mean, theres not much going on up there but some beautiful scenery, some of which has been raped by holiday homes

I just 'liked' post #2 at the start to defuse it, there isn't much behind it

Tar.Aldarion · 05-12-2012 07:59PM

Dem traffic lights that were up in leitrim.

rolliepoley · 05-12-2012 08:20PM

building the m50 twice over.

Pottler · 05-12-2012 08:30PM

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

Would the Irish Army ever come up against a tank?

Absolutely, every time one of them sticks their head up into an attic when they're doing a nixer in their copious free-time.

davetherave · 06-12-2012 02:19AM

srsly78 wrote: »

Crashing into stuff hardly counts as ground attack.

Could be picking this up way off the ball but that seems very poor taste.

DonLimon · 06-12-2012 02:53AM

On a lighter note, anybody remember the millenium candles?
A far more considerate waste of money.

Frank Black · 06-12-2012 08:55AM

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

My point is that if the plan hadn't been scrapped by that point, surely they were going to go ahead with regardless of the recession.

The majority of the money had been spent by that stage. It takes years to get a scheme of that complexity to planning submission status. Getting the scheme through the formal planning process would not have been a significant additional spend in the context of the money already spent.
I'd imagine that the decision was taken to get the planning permission approved and then wait and see what money would be available for construction in the future.
The planning permission will be valid for 5 years from the date of the Bord Pleanal decision.

CruelCoin · 06-12-2012 09:39AM

davetherave wrote: »

Could be picking this up way off the ball but that seems very poor taste.

I mentioned how the Irish Air Force lacks any meningfull ground attack capability, and he was running with the theme.

That said, the navy is also a waste of time.
Apart from pretty blonds holding pistols incorrectly, it also lacks any meaningful capability.

Should the Irish fleet go up against any half decent fleet, the Irish fleet would be destroyed long before they could get their pea-shooter deck guns into range.

21-12-2012 07:51PM

More waste to report :mad:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1219/dublin-castle-eu-presidency.html

Funny how Merkel & the EU wont intervene and complain about the money we ('The Pixie heads' :P) are spending on the EU presidency isn't it now? :rolleyes:

A €3 million refurbishment of facilities at Dublin Castle is near completion, ahead of Ireland's Presidency of the EU in 2013.
The castle will be the headquarters for the EU Presidency for the first six months of the year.
Overall €70 million is being spent on the Presidency compared to €110 million in 2004.
A revamp of the building began last July.
The Printworks at Dublin Castle was where the Mahon Tribunal held its public hearings. It was also the media centre during the Queen's visit and US President Barack Obama's visit.
Around €24 million will be spent on running costs, accomodation, catering, transport, while €20 million will be spent on staffing in Ireland and in Brussels.
Planning and preparation will cost €12 million, and cultural activities will cost €3 million.
Over 15,000 delegates are due to come to Ireland for the EU Presidency. They can access a special website outlining events and providing helpful tips on how to pronounce Taoiseach, Oireachtas or garda.

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