5 December 2012 - The day Labour died

Robroy36 · 06-12-2012 01:25AM #1

Today will go down as the day the Irish Labour party died. As junior partner in the coalition they were always going to be playing second fiddle to the big boys. Their greed for power after years on the sidelines has destroyed them. They have gone back on almost very one of their core principles over the last 20 months, with Rosin Shorthalls inglorious downfall emblematic of the poorly conceived pseudo-opposition role they feel they must fufil. In short, a group of low quality individuals coming together to make a low quality political party.

retalivity · 06-12-2012 01:27AM

howya gerry!

Shryke · 06-12-2012 01:32AM

They committed outright suicide a while back. This is just the absurdity that follows. I ****ing hate them today though, even knowing that, i'm genuinely actively hating them.

KKkitty · 06-12-2012 01:36AM

Wasters the lot of them. Phil Hogan was out enjoying himself while the budget was passed too. None of them give a damn about the people of Ireland.

oppenheimer1 · 06-12-2012 01:38AM

What did Labour expect. The junior coalition partner always takes a hammering because they always seek the moral high ground in opposition. In government it is next to impossible to live up to that promise. Ask the PD's, the Greens or the Lib Dems in the UK.

Life in Government is reality, not fantasy politics.

Nodin · 06-12-2012 01:40AM

Robroy36 wrote: »

Today will go down as the day the Irish Labour party died. As junior partner in the coalition they were always going to be playing second fiddle to the big boys. Their greed for power after years on the sidelines has destroyed them. They have gone back on almost very one of their core principles over the last 20 months, with Rosin Shorthalls inglorious downfall emblematic of the poorly conceived pseudo-opposition role they feel they must fufil. In short, a group of low quality individuals coming together to make a low quality political party.

...if you were getting on a bit, like meself, you'd know that Labour has "gone back" on anything resembling principle every time its gone into Government. They became massively popular under Dick Spring due to his attacks on FF - he then went into a coalition with...FF. Thats labour all over. Talks the talk, but has never really walked the walk.

Robroy36 · 06-12-2012 01:43AM

I'd like to see the septic, poisinous wench Claire Daly get in next to see renege on her militant socialist views and destroy her career.

Nodin · 06-12-2012 01:45AM

Robroy36 wrote: »

I'd like to see the septic, poisinous wench Claire Daly get in next to see renege on her militant socialist views and destroy her career.

...did she run over your kitten or something?

im invisible · 06-12-2012 01:48AM

i cant remember if i cried...

insert crude <edit> joke here

Galwayguy35 · 06-12-2012 01:48AM

Labour were never very significant outside of urban areas anyway.

They will probably bear the brunt of the voters anger at the next election.

Mickey H · 06-12-2012 01:49AM

Robroy36 wrote: »

I'd like to see the septic, poisinous wench Claire Daly get in next to see renege on her militant socialist views and destroy her career.

Ah now...

PizzamanIRL · 06-12-2012 01:50AM

R.I.P Labour

Stinicker · 06-12-2012 01:50AM

The have done everything expected of them and protected the interests of their core support group the Public sector and the unions from which they draw votes. The Public Sector has escaped the bulk of the cuts and they have just managed to save face by preserving the dole. The middle classes however get hammered and it is FG who will come out the worst.

Fianna Fail then have the bare necked arrogance to condemn everything and suddenly be the man of the people, it was good to see the other TD's walking out once the were given their say.

People must remember Fianna Fail are responsible for all this and them alone and what they did to the country from 1997-2011. Fianna Fail wrecked the country and should never again be given a say in its running. If people want an alternative then more of them should either vote for Labour, Sinn Fein or FG and let either FG have an outright majority or let Labour and Sinn Fein go into office together. People are of course too bigoted to vote Sinn Fein. The budget was bad yes but I know this Gov are only trying to make the best of a poisoned chalice left to them by the Fianna Fail gangsters.

People are quick to condemn but should remember Fianna Fail had three budgets from 2007,2008 & 2009 to stop the collapse and they choose to do nothing except cut the dole in 2009 & 2010 effecting the most unfortunate in society all the time still trying to flog the already dead cat of their property ponzi scheme with soft landings and ever increasing amounts for the public sector to bolster their support base from what were typical Labour voters.

davidlacey · 06-12-2012 01:51AM

labour has being dying a slow death for a long time, power and greed have taken over the party and no regard to its core values

Robroy36 · 06-12-2012 01:51AM

Nodin wrote: »

...did she run over your kitten or something?

I have never come across a bigger proponent of the welfare state than herself. She is completely reprehensible. A tumour in the Dail.

Celly Smunt · 06-12-2012 01:52AM

Why do we have to have payback elections rather than progressive what's good for the country elections?

Nodin · 06-12-2012 01:53AM

Robroy36 wrote: »

I have never come across a bigger proponent of the welfare state than herself. She is completely reprehensible. A tumour in the Dail.

So she did run over your kitten.

That's awful.

Nodin · 06-12-2012 01:54AM

pmcmahon wrote: »

Why do we have to have payback elections rather than progressive what's good for the country elections?

...considering that FF are climbing in the polls again, I'm beginning to just wonder "Why?" full stop.

Stheno · 06-12-2012 01:54AM

Nodin wrote: »

So she did run over your kitten.

That's awful.

She just lives in my constituency

That's awful

Nodin · 06-12-2012 01:56AM

Stheno wrote: »

She just lives in my constituency

That's awful

...~I'd a number of choice comments, but they'd be considered libellous...

Stheno · 06-12-2012 01:57AM

Nodin wrote: »

...~I'd a number of choice comments, but they'd be considered libellous...

I'd to refrain from speaking my mind when I posted.

Galwayguy35 · 06-12-2012 01:58AM

Robroy36 wrote: »

I have never come across a bigger proponent of the welfare state than herself. She is completely reprehensible. A tumour in the Dail.

No I think that honour should go to that little garden gnome Boyd Barrett.

Nodin · 06-12-2012 01:59AM

Stheno wrote: »

I'd to refrain from speaking my mind when I posted.

...terrible really. And on American boards where ye can say whatever ye want(nearly), the subjects never come up....

Nodin · 06-12-2012 02:00AM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

No I think that honour should go to that little garden gnome Boyd Barrett.

Yez didn't see the story about phil hogan today, then.....

Stheno · 06-12-2012 02:01AM

Nodin wrote: »

...terrible really. And on American boards where ye can say whatever ye want(nearly), the subjects never come up....

I don't think they would be able to relate to the likes of Ms. Daly as an elected politician!

Galwayguy35 · 06-12-2012 02:07AM

Nodin wrote: »

Yez didn't see the story about phil hogan today, then.....

Just looked it up there now, unbelievable :mad:

Stheno · 06-12-2012 02:08AM

Is this Hogan on a junket with a young lady?

oppenheimer1 · 06-12-2012 02:11AM

Stinicker wrote: »

The have done everything expected of them and protected the interests of their core support group the Public sector and the unions from which they draw votes. The Public Sector has escaped the bulk of the cuts and they have just managed to save face by preserving the dole. The middle classes however get hammered and it is FG who will come out the worst.

Fianna Fail then have the bare necked arrogance to condemn everything and suddenly be the man of the people, it was good to see the other TD's walking out once the were given their say.

People must remember Fianna Fail are responsible for all this and them alone and what they did to the country from 1997-2011. Fianna Fail wrecked the country and should never again be given a say in its running. If people want an alternative then more of them should either vote for Labour, Sinn Fein or FG and let either FG have an outright majority or let Labour and Sinn Fein go into office together. People are of course too bigoted to vote Sinn Fein. The budget was bad yes but I know this Gov are only trying to make the best of a poisoned chalice left to them by the Fianna Fail gangsters.

People are quick to condemn but should remember Fianna Fail had three budgets from 2007,2008 & 2009 to stop the collapse and they choose to do nothing except cut the dole in 2009 & 2010 effecting the most unfortunate in society all the time still trying to flog the already dead cat of their property ponzi scheme with soft landings and ever increasing amounts for the public sector to bolster their support base from what were typical Labour voters.

While FF were in power and must take responsibility for the crisis, it should not be forgotten that the opposition parties had policies that would have made the boom even boomier.

When this is the case, I think there needs to be a reform of the system of government rather than just swapping parties around.

Stheno · 06-12-2012 02:12AM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

While FF were in power and must take responsibility for the crisis, it should not be forgotten that the opposition parties had policies that would have made the boom even boomier.

When this is the case, I think there needs to be a reform of the system of government rather than just swapping parties around.

Agreed, I often think people paint FF/Greens as the cause of the downfall when the opposition at the time were shrieking about how poor the budgets were in benefitting the people

Nodin · 06-12-2012 02:13AM

Stheno wrote: »

Is this Hogan on a junket with a young lady?

...and a number of others, we should hasten to add. A large number of others. At a very expensive hotel. Now while it would be a bit much to expect them to be sleeping in a tent and dressing up in sack cloth and ashes, applying a bit of "austerity" wouldn't strike me as being out of order...

DonLimon · 06-12-2012 02:14AM

In fairness they were dead the second they went into government with Fine Gael.

5 December 2012 - The day Labour died

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