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How would you improve public transport in order to save money and avoid fare increase

  • 03-12-2012 08:43PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 543 ✭✭✭


    As the thread title says, how would you improve public transport in order to save money and avoid fare increases. This is not a thread to rant and rave about what routes should be changed or moaning about people leaving bags on seats.
    I am asking for people's ideas on how to "Michael O'Leary" up things to save cash instead of adding to fares.

    My ideas:
    • Have advertisements on board trains and buses and piped radio stations so they can gain more revenue
    • Charge for passengers occupying seats (give free ones to elderly / disabled) and have an inspector enforcing this (inspector will pay for itself in the long run)
    • Free WiFi should only be for holders of monthly / weekly /annual / tax saver tickets, enter code number on ticket to gain access etc, otherwise text away to 531231 or one of those numbers to get a code (and pay a euro or something)
    • Have a smoking carriage on trains and you have to pay an extra 20 Euro to sit in it, heavy smokers will be happy
    • Put a €2 slot on the door of the Jacks

    Any other ideas folks ??


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Hand it over to Mick O'Leary and fúk what the unions say!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Make the buses arrive on time. Like other countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Jetpacks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    I've been saying it for a while now, have a swipe on swipe off system, leading to no way to evade a fare / pay less than what's due. They'd make more money from that, and could cut down on inspectors. I'm baffled as to why this hasn't been done yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Remove free travel for oaps and end student discounts. Same fares for all. Fine people for putting their bags on a seat. Fine people for playing music on their phone or any other device(without headphones).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Fire the top and middle management of CIEE and start over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 523 ✭✭✭coonecb1


    Offer express tickets so that the bus wouldn't have any other stops between departure and arrival.

    E.g. sell tickets for a 46A "Express" that would go straight into town without stopping except for traffic lights and one or two major stops like Stillorgan or Donnybrook.

    You could charge €5 one way ticket.

    Or a 75 bus from Dun Laoghaire to Tallaght that had no stops and only used the M50, which could be every 2-3 hours and cost €5 one way ticket


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Make everyone live in the one house.

    No wait, that's cutting my own throat, make everyone live scattered in random houses in the middle of nowhere so public transport is completely unviable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    Make buses outside Dublin run after 7pm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭james142


    Anyone wrote: »
    Remove free travel for oaps and end student discounts. Same fares for all. Fine people for putting their bags on a seat. Fine people for playing music on their phone or any other device(without headphones).

    No you grumpy old fart. Why would you remove free travel to OAP's and end student discounts??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 523 ✭✭✭coonecb1


    Put on more orbital bus routes that circle the city rather than having every route travel through the city centre.

    Making every route go through town is impractical, doesn't suit everyone


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Neewbie_noob


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    and could cut down on inspectors..

    Jhobs fer d bhoys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    Run the busses on used vegetable oil cheaply sourced from chippers.

    Don't use the lights or heating systems on the busses.

    Charge tourists more because they don't know how much the fares are.

    Charge spanish students per every word spoken on their journeys during the summer.

    Sell tiny cans of beer,disgusting food and other trinkets for high prices on busses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    james142 wrote: »
    No you grumpy old fart. Why would you remove free travel to OAP's and end student discounts??

    OP wants Michael O'Leary type ideas to stop fare increases.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,622 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Privatisation.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Neewbie_noob


    Anyone wrote: »
    OP wants Michael O'Leary type ideas to stop fare increases.

    Thanks Anyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 331 ✭✭james142


    Anyone wrote: »
    OP wants Michael O'Leary type ideas to stop fare increases.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Pilotdude5


    Make everyone move to the cities to work in Tractor factories. Kill everyone who wears glasses or can read.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 523 ✭✭✭coonecb1


    Pilotdude5 wrote: »
    Make everyone move to the cities to work in Tractor factories. Kill everyone who wears glasses or can read.

    WTF are you smoking :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Pilotdude5


    coonecb1 wrote: »
    WTF are you smoking :confused:

    Hey man I'm just Brainstorming:cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Michael O'Leary eh?

    Tie people to the back of bus with a rope and drag them along the road, except it's a wheelbarrow instead a bus. Charge them on the basis of how many limbs they have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭jahalpin


    Hand it over to Mick O'Leary and fúk what the unions say!

    He would probably schedule Dublin - Cork to take 5 hours so it would appear that all the services were on time (he would probably still not get a 100% on-time record)

    He really couldn't do it cheaper than Irish Rail do with their advance booking specials, the turn-up fare for Dublin - Cork would probably also go up to to around €200


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Pilotdude5


    Bus type ratings whereby new bus drivers pay €28500 for a bus driving job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭jahalpin


    Trains
    I would probably cut the non-performing routes such as Ballybrophy - Limerick, Limerick - Galway etc

    I would also introduce a new OAP fare with a discount of around 50% of the normal fare for OAP's


    Provincial Buses
    I would introduce more joint services with private companies for all key inter-city services


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Make routes more direct. No more fannying about through housing estates and use bypasses.

    Reduce the amount of bus stops by around 50%. It would reduce fuel usage by an awful lot and quicken times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Stop the pay as you get on system and employ inspectors with powers of arrest.
    Make the fine for having no ticket €200 and double it for each subsequent offence.

    Fine revenue will pay for inspector costs plus a surplus to improve service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭Anita Blow


    Tag on/Tag-off validators at city centre bus stops so people can do the tagging before they board and when they get off.

    Higher fares on knacker routes to reflect the anti-social problems that plague them just like Nightlink charges more. Use the revenue from the higher fares to pay STT security for those routes.

    Increase cash fares and use the increase to subsidise leap fares.

    Limit free travel for OAPs to either a certain number of free journeys, or a certain amount of kilometres of free travel. Whichever comes first. After that they pay a subsidised rate.

    Get rid of free travel for some disabilities. I'm in full support for the disabled getting free travel, but I was on the bus once and 2 knackers coked-off their heads were able to use their disability passes to get on even though they had nothing visibly wrong with them.

    Limit free travel on private operators. I see people using more expensive operators with their passes. If you want your travel paid for by the taxpayer then you don't get to choose the more expensive option. If you want that then pay for it yourself.

    Abolish WRC which is just completely unviable. You'd get a load of people complaining but it'd be a case of "I don't use it, but it should still be kept open" which is ridiculous. It's getting a third of the passengers a month it requires to meet projected targets and even those projected targets would still have required a subvention if met.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    Teleportation.

    Just invent it, and away you go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    1120 euro for an annual Dublin Bus pass and you get to share the 40 and the 27 (in town, yes town) with junkies who also have a pass only they were smart, they got theirs off da social

    People with disabilities need passes but it's sickening to see wasters and their battered pieces of cardboard act as if they own the top deck

    Charge everyone something, even if it's only 50c.
    Something nominal

    They did this for the medical card prescriptions, it can be done here


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Neewbie_noob


    MadsL wrote: »
    Stop the pay as you get on system.

    Where / when do you pay MadsL?


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