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Do you ever flash your head.....

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  • #32
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    bbam wrote: »

    Yes I've seen it in France too.
    I doubt it's illegal either. Yes ive heard of Guards stopping people warning of actual checkpoints, cautioning them for obstructing justice. But a gatso isn't a guard or a checkpoint, so your not obstructing a guard from his duties.
    I would always warn other drivers and it's saved me a good few times.

    Warning someone about a checkpoint is very different. You know a speed van is there to detect speeders. You have no idea why the checkpoint is there or what the person you have warned has done.


  • #33
    donalg1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭donalg1


    Never do it, too afraid a guard would see me and I'd get done for it. Plus if some clown wants to speed well then let em get caught for it


  • #34
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I get paid by the RSA to go around the place flashing my lights. Proven to be the most effective way to slow others down. The brake lights in my rear view mirror is reward enough, well that and the money.


  • #35
    gemma188
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭gemma188


    If I meet someone driving extremely fast on the road always flash them and signal to slow down (giving the impression there is a speed camera ahead). Hopefully it keeps them and other motorists a little safer for a few miles at least as they slow down expecting a speed camera.


  • #36
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,449 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    PizzamanIRL wrote: »
    I only flash people after I pass the speed van if someone flashed me before I got to the speed van.

    If you get caught flashing you can just say something stupid like it was a mistake or you were flashing to say hello to someone you knew. They can't prove anything.

    I thought those speed vans only read speeds from the rear of the van....

    If so one of the flashes in this post is pointless.


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  • #37
    juan.kerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Never, let them be caught if they are breaking some law and putting others lives at risk (including my own).

    It disappoints me that some people are so eager to get one over on the Gardai trying to do their job and make the roads safer for us all.

    When will we grow up and lose that mentality?


  • #38
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭bbam


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    Never, let them be caught if they are breaking some law and putting others lives at risk (including my own).

    It disappoints me that some people are so eager to get one over on the Gardai trying to do their job and make the roads safer for us all.

    When will we grow up and lose that mentality?

    This isn't about getting one over on the guards, I fully respect the guards.
    The gatso cams are a third party employed by the state to implement a system that is as much about revenue as public safety, that's just wrong.
    We have all seen places where the speed limit doesn't make sence or match the road, yet it's funny that it's just there that the van will be positioned catching drivers just entering the restricted zone. Theyre just honey traps for revenue. I've no respect for this approach.


  • #39
    juan.kerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    bbam wrote: »
    This isn't about getting one over on the guards, I fully respect the guards.
    The gatso cams are a third party employed by the state to implement a system that is as much about revenue as public safety, that's just wrong.
    We have all seen places where the speed limit doesn't make sence or match the road, yet it's funny that it's just there that the van will be positioned catching drivers just entering the restricted zone. Theyre just honey traps for revenue. I've no respect for this approach.

    This is the usual excuse trotted out. If you keep within the limits and follow the other rules of the road you have nothing to worry about. It's as simple as that.


  • #40
    Kevwoody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Kevwoody


    Ok so picture this.
    You're driving down the road and you flash someone to slow down, that person, safe in the knowledge that he will always be warned of upcoming speed traps, mows down a pedestrian or looses control at high speed.

    Who's being responsible now?

    Obviously none of you have lost someone to a careless speeding driver


  • #41
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Kevwoody wrote: »
    Ok so picture this.
    You're driving down the road and you flash someone to slow down, that person, safe in the knowledge that he will always be warned of upcoming speed traps, mows down a pedestrian or looses control at high speed.

    Who's being responsible now?

    Obviously none of you have lost someone to a careless speeding driver

    Ok so picture this.

    You don't flash someone and they crash a car into an oncoming vehicle.

    Who's being responsible now?


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  • #42
    juan.kerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Ok so picture this.

    You don't flash someone and they crash a car into an oncoming vehicle.

    Who's being responsible now?

    The speeding driver, Sherlock.


  • #43
    annascott
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭annascott


    I always flash to warn other drivers of a Gatso van and am grateful when someone does it for me.
    It is only illegal here to 'flash' someone to warn them of an actual Garda stop checkpoint.


  • #44
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    The speeding driver, Sherlock.

    So you'd rather not flash someone just to prove a point?! :rolleyes:


  • #45
    juan.kerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Ok so picture this.

    You don't flash someone and they crash a car into an oncoming vehicle.

    Who's being responsible now?

    Nomination for most stupid post ever. Sorry Dougal but you lived up to your username with this one.


  • #46
    juan.kerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    So you'd rather not flash someone just to prove a point?! :rolleyes:

    Prove a point? Read your post again. Ridiculous argument.


  • #47
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,408 ✭✭✭bbam


    Picture this.
    There are two parallel roads entering our town from one side. The "main" road had the 60kph extended an extra 2k from the town and the minor road didn't.
    The main road is now a honey trap for non suspecting motorists where locals can enter the town on the parallel minor road at 80kph with no problem.

    The gatso van is hidden in a business entry on the main road, just inside the 60kph zone and does a brisk trade indeed. Never ever is it on the minor road which people now use frequently to avoid the van.

    I've lived here all my life and there have been no fatal crashes within 5km of the new 60kph zone and that crash we remember was weather related.

    So the gatso van catches unsuspecting motorists while encouraging people to use an R rated road with no speed restriction.
    This is a revenue exercise.


  • #48
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    Nomination for most stupid post ever. Sorry Dougal but you lived up to your username with this one.

    Right. I get your username now too.


  • #49
    juan.kerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Right. I get your username now too.

    Well spotted, Dougal. Did you need Ted's help figuring that out?

    Now back to your post. Do you still stand over it?


  • #50
    Kevwoody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Kevwoody


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »

    Ok so picture this.

    You don't flash someone and they crash a car into an oncoming vehicle.

    Who's being responsible now?


    What an absolute idiot you are.


  • #51
    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭shedweller


    bbam wrote: »
    Picture this.
    There are two parallel roads entering our town from one side. The "main" road had the 60kph extended an extra 2k from the town and the minor road didn't.
    The main road is now a honey trap for non suspecting motorists where locals can enter the town on the parallel minor road at 80kph with no problem.

    The gatso van is hidden in a business entry on the main road, just inside the 60kph zone and does a brisk trade indeed. Never ever is it on the minor road which people now use frequently to avoid the van.

    I've lived here all my life and there have been no fatal crashes within 5km of the new 60kph zone and that crash we remember was weather related.

    So the gatso van catches unsuspecting motorists while encouraging people to use an R rated road with no speed restriction.
    This is a revenue exercise.
    This. +100

    Weren't we told they wouldn't do this when they were rolling out the gosafe cameras?
    Can anything be done to stop this nonsense? Because there are plenty of dangerous roads that do kill and certainly need speed cameras on them.


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  • #52
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    Well spotted, Dougal. Did you need Ted's help figuring that out?

    Now back to your post. Do you still stand over it?

    My point is; the purpose of the high vis GoSafe vans is to slow down motorists. Flashing your lights at motorists to warn them or a GoSafe van slows down motorists and serves the same purpose. I have no problem flashing someone to warn them about the vans, if anything you're making the roads safer as the reach of the vans is being extended by a km or so.


  • #53
    juan.kerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    My point is; the purpose of the high vis GoSafe vans is to slow down motorists. Flashing your lights at motorists to warn them or a GoSafe van slows down motorists and serves the same purpose. I have no problem flashing someone to warn them about the vans, if anything you're making the roads safer as the reach of the vans is being extended by a km or so.

    Keep digging. Not really bothered discussing further, so do you stand over the post. A simple Yes or No will suffice.


  • #54
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Kevwoody wrote: »
    What an absolute idiot you are.

    Mod

    Banned.

    Flaming not welcome.


  • #55
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    Keep digging. Not really bothered discussing further, so do you stand over the post. A simple Yes or No will suffice.

    Ah right, I get your point. I was talking about being a responsible driver as opposed to being responsible for an accident. I see where you're coming from.

    So no, a persons failure to flash wouldn't make them responsible for an accident.


  • #56
    Pottler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Ye can lump me in as a dummy with Dougal, If the cameras are to slow people down, not generate revenue, and by flashing people they slow down, go past the camera and go phew, that was close, the same thing is getting done, minus the money.

    If someones a mad speeder, points and fines won't make them slow down, otherwise there'd be noone with more than 2 points, but there's loads with 6, 8 etc, who obviously will never get the hint. Anyway, I tend to flash. I've cut it down now the weather is colder, but if I can find some see-through thermal long johns, there'll be no stopping me.


  • #57
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,263 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Ok so picture this.

    You don't flash someone and they crash a car into an oncoming vehicle.

    Who's being responsible now?

    Trick question. It was all part of God's divine plan for those involved.


  • #58
    MaxSteele
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    It's common courtesy. Most drivers I pass are usually within the speed limit anyway. Friendly heads up is all.


  • #59
    IceFjoem
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭IceFjoem


    A barrister I know represented a guy years ago who was brought to court for having flashed someone, alerting them to a Garda with a speed gun. I've no idea what the exact charge could have been, but he got off anyway as he claimed he was just encouraging a fellow road user to drive more carefully.


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