NFL Player Shoots his Girlfriend Dead, then drives to Stadium and Kills himself

Fizman · 02-12-2012 02:48AM #1

Crazy story only a few hours old.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/dec/01/jovan-belcher-kansas-city-chiefs-murder-suicide

Jovan Belcher, Kansas City Chiefs....Linebacker shoots himself dead at Arrowhead Stadium, minutes after he is believed to have killed his girlfriend

J_E · 02-12-2012 02:51AM

I feel sorry for their daughter...it won't be easy growing up

Tragic story all around, I wonder what caused it all?

squod · 02-12-2012 02:51AM

What a horrible story.

Mr. McGreg · 02-12-2012 03:02AM

While at college he studied development and family relationships.

I take it he missed a few lectures in that course....

Poor daughter though, feel sorry for her.

WumBuster · 02-12-2012 03:06AM

Not trying to be smart but why do these things always seem to happen in the USA? I mean could you imagine in a million years a premiership footballer ever doing something like this? Crazy

Corkfeen · 02-12-2012 03:14AM

WumBuster wrote: »

Not trying to be smart but why do these things always seem to happen in the USA? I mean could you imagine in a million years a premiership footballer ever doing something like this? Crazy

If this was an armed killing spree, i'd agree(to an extent anyway) but small scale murder suicides aren't just a US occurrence. It's a horrible event but to claim that it's specific to America is silly.

Aciiiiiiiiiiid · 02-12-2012 03:22AM

I know it's not PC but what an absolute scumbag piece of ****. No matter how severe your depression is you have no right to murder innocent people in the process.

johnmcdnl · 02-12-2012 03:24AM

WumBuster wrote: »

Not trying to be smart but why do these things always seem to happen in the USA? I mean could you imagine in a million years a premiership footballer ever doing something like this? Crazy

How many times have you heard a story of a guy killing his wife and then killing himself? It's far from a rare occurrence as I'm sure you can agree and even happens here in Ireland as well so making out its an American problem is very short sited. It's only natural that eventually a case occurs that a well known person is the perpetrator. I'm sure if I made an attempt to google I could find an event similar to this that didn't happen in the USA and involved a major sports star.

All I can say is RIP to the deceased and my thoughts go out to that 2 month old kid left an orphan just like that.

RMD · 02-12-2012 03:24AM

WumBuster wrote: »

Not trying to be smart but why do these things always seem to happen in the USA? I mean could you imagine in a million years a premiership footballer ever doing something like this? Crazy

It has a population of 314 million and a gun loving culture. I could imagine a premiership player doing this, but I'd factor in it'll probably take 6 times as long to happen and will be done by a more gruesome method. Murder-suicides aren't an American specific issue, it's just the fact that a gun was used is what makes this more interesting.

Mr. Rager · 02-12-2012 03:25AM

Jesus Christ, quite a story. And a horrible one at that. Feel sorry for the poor child involved.

swimming in a sea · 02-12-2012 03:35AM

Not sure if it applies here, but in general American sport is rotten to the core with Steroid abuse from baseball/American football to WWE wrestling.

But since all of their popular sports are all internal there is no international pressure for them to clean it up like there was for cycling.

Mr. Rager · 02-12-2012 03:37AM

swimming in a sea wrote: »

Not sure if it applies here, but in general American sport is rotten to the core with Steroid abuse from baseball/American football to WWE wrestling.

But since all of their popular sports are all internal there is no international pressure for them to clean it up like there was for cycling.

Ok thanks for that?

meoklmrk91 · 02-12-2012 03:39AM

Saw this in the American Football forum today, not the kind f thing I would usually click into but when I saw the title.... Very sad series of events, heart rally goes out to all those affected. I remember a few years back when Chris Benoit, a wrestler from the WWE killed his wife and child before killing himself they did a study in his brain and found that due to repeated concussions he had the brain of an 85 year old and had dementia, late stage I think. This of course may have had nothing to do with his actions and everything. There defiantely seems to be a trend of this in American sports stars though and contact sports need to be looked at.

This happens outside sport for more often that we would like to think where concussions cannot be blamed, but I do think it is something we should be looking at. All round tragic event, are they still planning on playing the game tomorrow as they had been earlier, maybe it's just the Irishness in me but it seems a bit crude given the circumstances. RIP.

swimming in a sea · 02-12-2012 03:43AM

Mr. Rager wrote: »

Ok thanks for that?

no problem:rolleyes:

Holsten · 02-12-2012 03:45AM

Crazy stuff.

So sad that he felt the need to do this, feel sorry for them all especially the daughter.

Mental health problems no doubt.

The_Minister · 02-12-2012 03:52AM

Mr. Rager wrote: »

Ok thanks for that?

He's suggesting roid rage may have been a factor (I think).

Mr. Rager · 02-12-2012 03:59AM

swimming in a sea wrote: »

no problem:rolleyes:

Are you suggesting roid rage could've been a factor like another poster said? Or was your post just a critique on American sport associations? Wasn't that clear, is all.

J. Marston · 02-12-2012 04:09AM

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Saw this in the American Football forum today, not the kind f thing I would usually click into but when I saw the title.... Very sad series of events, heart rally goes out to all those affected. I remember a few years back when Chris Benoit, a wrestler from the WWE killed his wife and child before killing himself they did a study in his brain and found that due to repeated concussions he had the brain of an 85 year old and had dementia, late stage I think. This of course may have had nothing to do with his actions and everything. There defiantely seems to be a trend of this in American sports stars though and contact sports need to be looked at.

This happens outside sport for more often that we would like to think where concussions cannot be blamed, but I do think it is something we should be looking at. All round tragic event, are they still planning on playing the game tomorrow as they had been earlier, maybe it's just the Irishness in me but it seems a bit crude given the circumstances. RIP.

I was listening to Talksport earlier and they were discussing if he had any history of concussions. The reporter, who is based in Kansas, said that he missed training for a period in 2009 due to a ''head injury'' but it didn't say concussion specifically. He said that NFL teams had a habit of not revealing concussion injuries in the past but that's changed recently with all the controversy over them.

Killer Wench · 02-12-2012 04:16AM

swimming in a sea wrote: »

But since all of their popular sports are all internal there is no international pressure for them to clean it up like there was for cycling.

Not true. There have been congressional hearings on the subject of doping and other issues within professional sports.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 02-12-2012 04:41AM

If it's 'roid rage' that people are talking about they need to think again. The condition is completely misunderstood by the general public and blown up by the media. In the case of the WWE wrestler Chris Benoit's murder suicide the media immediately assumed steroids had a part to play.

B.A._Baracus · 02-12-2012 04:51AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

If it's 'roid rage' that people are talking about they need to think again. The condition is completely misunderstood by the general public and blown up by the media. In the case of the WWE wrestler Chris Benoit's murder suicide the media immediately assumed steroids had a part to play.

Totally agree.
After the Benoit incident many famous wrestlers went on the record to state how 'road rage' doesnt cause you to go off the head and kill people.

... but i reckon the media will blame steroids yet again for this one.

DrumSteve · 02-12-2012 06:19AM

Wasnt it because he kept doing the diving headbutts? They messed with his brain

Xavi6 · 02-12-2012 06:25AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

... but i reckon the media will blame steroids yet again for this one.

No they won't, concussion and head trauma will get the brunt of it.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 02-12-2012 07:01AM

DrumSteve wrote: »

Wasnt it because he kept doing the diving headbutts? They messed with his brain

Correct that is the theory, when examined his brain was found to have a number of irregularities caused by his profession. From the time he was 18 (died in his early 40's) Benoit wrestled across the world, remember these guys go night after night, there is no off season in wrestling. The results are pre determined but the sport itself is anything but fake. Brutal head trauma can occur.

mrsdewinter · 02-12-2012 07:23AM

Newstalk's Off The Ball show has covered the issue of depression and suicide in former NFL players a number of times over the last couple of years.
Really opened my eyes.
In any case, my heart goes out to this man's family.

HeyThereDeliah · 02-12-2012 07:36AM

"Despite the tragic events, the Chiefs are still set to play their next scheduled game, against the Carolina Panthers at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday afternoon."

The show must go on, no time for sympathy there.

Sad story all round but more so because he killed the mother of his child leaving the baby an orphan.
He was obviously troubled in some way.I feel for his mother who must have witnessed it.

RIP to them both.

iDave · 02-12-2012 08:59AM

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

"Despite the tragic events, the Chiefs are still set to play their next scheduled game, against the Carolina Panthers at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday afternoon."

The show must go on, no time for sympathy there.

Sad story all round but more so because he killed the mother of his child leaving the baby an orphan.
He was obviously troubled in some way.I feel for his mother who must have witnessed it.

RIP to them both.

How can they just play on and not postpone. That's a disgrace, imagine the uproar if Spurs and Bolton kept playing on when Fabrice Muamba collapsed on the pitch. The GAA postponed a semifinal when a Kilkenny players wife died. This proves what I always suspected American sports are rotten to the core

Brien · 02-12-2012 09:57AM

Nfl news website reporting that he drove to the stadium, thanked his coach and the teams general manager before walking away and shooting himself. The Kansas chiefs said they want to play the next game in order to have all the fans together to pay tribute to his life. very sad

Dave! · 02-12-2012 11:36AM

Brien wrote: »

Nfl news website reporting that he drove to the stadium, thanked his coach and the teams general manager before walking away and shooting himself. The Kansas chiefs said they want to play the next game in order to have all the fans together to pay tribute to his life. very sad

If he had just killed himself then okay, but given that he killed his girlfriend too that would be inappropriate IMO

Dave! · 02-12-2012 11:37AM

The fact that he didn't kill the daughter is strange to me. If it was a depression or roid rage thing I would have thought he'd kill her too, but the fact that he only killed the girlfriend might point to some kind of relationship problems or somethin.

juan.kerr · 02-12-2012 11:42AM

WumBuster wrote: »

Not trying to be smart but why do these things always seem to happen in the USA? I mean could you imagine in a million years a premiership footballer ever doing something like this? Crazy

Why do people persist with this US bashing **ite? It's embarrassing that someone would attempt to hijack a story like this for their own anti-US agenda.

We have had at least one 'murder suicide' incident here including the children. In this case the perpetrator just happened to be a sports person.

NFL Player Shoots his Girlfriend Dead, then drives to Stadium and Kills himself

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