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How much do you know about Iraq and the US Army??

  • 01-12-2012 02:24AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭


    I must admit i knew very little but i have been watching a few youtube videos about it. Have a look at this and watch a few others after it. Its a sick world we live in and the US army are a disgrace, or more accurately the top brass are.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭Max Power


    Didn't know it snowed that much in Iraq


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Here you go op



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod


    Didn't know it snowed that much in Iraq

    I've been watching some youtube videos about it.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Very, very, very little OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    donvito99 wrote: »
    Very, very, very little OP

    I was the same and wasn't really interested but i started to watch a few videos. Its monstrous what was going on. Some sick people in the us army. Some of the testimonials are grim.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    I know that a US attack helicopter pilot considers it funny to shoot up a TV crew, then shoot up their rescuers, then laugh at the APC that attends the scene running over the victims. Which is pretty much all I need to know to know that the US have not covered themselves in glory in Iraq. I'm also thankful I don't live there and have to endure their murderous sh1te..Luckily we gave our natural rescources to Shell, so now Shell have to watch their back. Best case description is delegation of responsibility..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭13spanner




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Bad guys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭Mr. Rager


    You watched a view videos, now suddenly you're an expert and it's ok to generalise the US Army as a whole as "sick"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Its interesting what that guy says (part 2 video of that guy speaking in front of others)


    Being honest, i'm not shocked. All this "rules of engagement" (etc) are total lies. Its A versus B. No rules. Its sad but true.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    Mr. Rager wrote: »
    You watched a view videos, now suddenly you're an expert and it's ok to generalise the US Army as a whole as "sick"?
    What's your own point of view? Honestly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭Mr. Rager


    Pottler wrote: »
    What's your own point of view? Honestly?
    Yeah they're sick, I'm just being a cúnt tbh :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,521 ✭✭✭✭Witcher



    Being honest, i'm not shocked. All this "rules of engagement" (etc) are total lies. Its A versus B. No rules. Its sad but true. [/SIZE]

    That's due to the nature of the war, you can't wait to respond to the first shots because given how the enemy operate..you won't know until it's too late and an IED has gone off, a suicide bomber has blown themselves up or someone hanging out a window with a rifle has shot the man in the jeep's turret...they have to preempt it a lot of the time....not excusing it just commenting on how the rules of engagement can't always be followed given the fact it was a counter-insurgency.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    The soldiers seem to become brutes out there, maybe the army attracts them or maybe they become brutes during war.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Oil, thats about all i know,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Blay wrote: »
    That's due to the nature of the war, you can't wait to respond to the first shots because given how the enemy operate..you won't know until it's too late and an IED has gone off, a suicide bomber has blown themselves up or someone hanging out a window with a rifle has shot the man in the jeep's turret...they have to preempt it a lot of the time....not excusing it just commenting on how the rules of engagement can't always be followed given the fact it was a counter-insurgency.

    Totally agree.
    So when you bring that into play, the "rules of engagement" are just a load of bullshit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,521 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    woodoo wrote: »
    The soldiers seem to become brutes out there, maybe the army attracts them or maybe they become brutes during war.

    Seeing your friends being blown to smithereens by IED's and suicide bombers will do that to ya. Plus there's the guys who would do it just for the 'fun' of it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    It helped provide Stephen Colbert with some great material for his show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    I don't know much about Iraq, but I know a bit about the Army, and quite a bit about the US military.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Why did the USA illegally invade Iraq again? Also why don't they pay reparations to Vietnam, they were the losing side afterall. Germany never failed in this regard.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Got into a cab with a vet last week.

    He chats away, 'Oh you're from Ireland, yeah I love the Guinness in Shannon, was there a few times on stopovers, we were doing in tours in . . . . . where the hell was it?. . . . . . Middle?. . . . . . . Britain?. . . . . '

    'Iraq?' I says.

    'Yeah that's the one buddy'

    Says it all really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,741 ✭✭✭Piliger


    woodoo wrote: »
    I must admit i knew very little but i have been watching a few youtube videos about it. [/YOUTUBE]
    Oh yeah ... Youtube. Quality education :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    woodoo wrote: »
    i have been watching a few youtube videos......

    I've been watching a few youtube videos too. But most of them are people getting freaked out in lifts or funny pets running into things ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,795 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Piliger wrote: »
    Oh yeah ... Youtube. Quality education :rolleyes:

    Ya I saw a video about the Nazi reaching the Moon before Neil Armstrong and now I'm a believer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    FanadMan wrote: »
    I've been watching a few youtube videos too. But most of them are people getting freaked out in lifts or funny pets running into things ;)

    I've been going through this strange twerk video phase. They're hypnotic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,122 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    All I know is that USA is here $ and Iraq is









    here

    Why cant they get along?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,824 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    I've been going through this strange twerk video phase. They're hypnotic.

    Urrgh! Think would rather watch US/Iraq conspiracy vids :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    FanadMan wrote: »
    Urrgh! Think would rather watch US/Iraq conspiracy vids :D

    Coward! :D


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,895 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I would be rather concerned about drawing conclusions of commonality from a search. Whilst certainly there were instances of questionable behaviour, that does not imply that they were necessarily common. Might I suggest a truly random sample? There are going to be people you know or have access to who have first-hand experience of what went on in Iraq, from their perspective. Perhaps you should sample and poll them for their thoughts, experiences, and so on. Since you already know them, there is no chance of any bias coming into your sample from searching terminology, or trending results.

    By way of such random sample, I offer the photographs ( http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/pictures.htm ) and videos ( http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/videos.htm ) that I took in Iraq 2004-2005. I am also more than happy to answer any direct questions you may have within the limits of my knowledge. If you're really interested, I can probably post up my diary for the year, which I updated as and when I could get to a computer, usually every three days or so.

    Examples include...

    Interrogating locals http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/chai1.JPG
    Soldier telling kids not to report US soldiers abusing their families, or else http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/wiltseykids.JPG
    Reaction to a wedding (Video) http://data.primeportal.net/videos/nlm/wedding.MOV
    Panic at being surrounded in close proximity by locals http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/kidsfollow.jpg
    Driving through the city with no regard for other road users (Video) http://data.primeportal.net/videos/nlm/Mosuldrv.MOV
    Running over children with a tank http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/tankkids.JPG
    Iraqi attempt to poison us http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/teatank3.JPG
    Raiding a house following discovery of an AK-47 on the ground http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/socialcall.jpg
    Iraqis chasing our tank away http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/popular.JPG
    Young girl faces down a tank. http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/usaftank3.JPG
    Angry kids giving us the finger. http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/mosulfam.JPG
    Stealing what little food the Iraqis had from them. http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/groceries.JPG
    Shooting up the local market http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/market1.JPG
    Tieing up Iraqi man. http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/bandaid.JPG
    Physical assault on an Iraqi http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/Morrowkid2.JPG
    Another attempt at poisoning. This time we tried to poison them back. http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/localmre.JPG
    Iraqis rush our trucks. http://data.primeportal.net/iraq/popular1.jpg

    Or, you could ignore the sources closest to you....

    NTM


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Where To wrote: »
    Got into a cab with a vet last week.

    He chats away, 'Oh you're from Ireland, yeah I love the Guinness in Shannon, was there a few times on stopovers, we were doing in tours in . . . . . where the hell was it?. . . . . . Middle?. . . . . . . Britain?. . . . . '

    'Iraq?' I says.

    'Yeah that's the one buddy'

    Says it all really.

    Says what exactly? Post Traumatic Stress Disorder causing Amnesia or you thought he was an idiot?


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