A Land With No Hope

WoollyRedHat · 29-11-2012 03:31PM

Sounds like the making of a great movie. Townsfolk have had enough, the story of the people vs. "The Real GAA Man". Starring Colin Farrell and Brendan Gleeson.

Wibbs · 29-11-2012 03:32PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

What has the GAA got to do with this?

This rant says more about your own prejudices than anything else.

I could be wrong O but I don't think he's against the GAA per se, more against some of the kind of characters that use the institution for their own social/financial ends. If it wasn't the GAA they'd be using whatever was there in it's stead. The same type use political parties to the same ends. Can be very prevalent in small town Ireland. It's prevalent enough in large towns and cities too.

LivelineDipso · 29-11-2012 03:32PM

seamus wrote: »

The CSO reported a 1.1% fall in unemployment today.

BECAUSE THEY LEFT THE COUNTRY!

Enda Kenny's 'Green Shoots' are the Irish shooting off to other countries.

29-11-2012 03:32PM

LivelineDipso wrote: »

Because the "reall GAA men" are the ones who are at the heart of the rot. The same bastards will be on Nationwide next year moaning about the lack of players for clubs due to emigrations.

The ironny being their "real GAA man" mindset CAUSED the problem.

I dont think Bertie Ahern was a big GAA man I thought he preferred the soccer ball?

iDave · 29-11-2012 03:32PM

I wonder when the sub prime mortgage crisis hit the United States and umemplyment rose along with small businesses folding did anyone find an abstract way of linking the NFL or MLB to it. Or perhaps if things in Australia were like they are here would they somehow find a way of blaming the AFL?

Crann na Beatha · 29-11-2012 03:33PM

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Penn · 29-11-2012 03:33PM

LivelineDipso wrote: »

BECAUSE THEY LEFT THE COUNTRY!

Or more part-time jobs being created in the run up to Christmas

gobnaitolunacy · 29-11-2012 03:34PM

keith16 wrote: »

Stop saying "real GAA men".

Pretend GAA men?

Is there really any correlation between what people do as a pastime and what way they conduct business, whether they follow GAA, collect stamps or pigeon fancying?

Duckworth_Luas · 29-11-2012 03:34PM

iDave wrote: »

I wonder when the sub prime mortgage crisis hit the United States and umemplyment rose along with small businesses folding did anyone find an abstract way of linking the NFL or MLB to it. Or perhaps if things in Australia were like they are here would they somehow find a way of blaming the AFL?

Well I blame the Bundesliga for World War II myself!

seamus · 29-11-2012 03:35PM

davet82 wrote: »

seasonal and emmigration factors maybe... ???

i don't want to be a miserable bastard, i just dont want my hopes dashed

It's the first confirmed drop in five years after all such factors are taken into account.

No reason to break out the bollinger and €500k mortgages just yet, but certainly cause for hope

Larbre34 · 29-11-2012 03:35PM

IrishFeeney92 wrote: »

Your You're an Idiot

FYP. Ironic. Idiot.

Chuck Stone · 29-11-2012 03:35PM

If they have successful businesses they will move to other premises where rent will not be so expensive.

I don't believe this guy owns the entire town centre and if he does then why would you want to try to open a business in a fiefdom anyway?

Wibbs · 29-11-2012 03:37PM

seamus wrote: »

The CSO reported a 1.1% fall in unemployment today.

I think your thread may be a couple of years too late tbh. I see plenty of hope around.

Oh defo, but it depends where you are and what sector you're in though too Seamus. I also see plenty of hope in a few areas, but small towns tend to get the worst of any downturn. I remember the diffs between say Dublin and the Midlands back in the 80's downturn. Jobs for school leavers stood out for me at the time. My class had enough leave the country or join the dole queues, but I remember talking to guys who had grown up in places like Mayo and the like and damn near all of their class had upped and left.

Larbre34 · 29-11-2012 03:37PM

The small traders need to turn events to their advantage. Call his bluff, take the landlord beyond the brink and close up shop. Then offer to reopen for 65% of previous rent

The chain stores in Blanchardstown Shopping Centre all did it and they're back up and running again.

Headshot · 29-11-2012 03:38PM

It's the land of confusion

Ooh superman where are you now

davet82 · 29-11-2012 03:40PM

seamus wrote: »

It's the first confirmed drop in five years after all such factors are taken into account.

No reason to break out the bollinger and €500k mortgages just yet, but certainly cause for hope

green shoots maybe... i forgot what optimism felt like...

well i'll drink to good news regardless, even if it isn't bollinger

henryporter · 29-11-2012 03:41PM

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

I dont think Bertie Ahern was a big GAA man I thought he preferred the soccer ball?

Ahem...

gobnaitolunacy · 29-11-2012 03:42PM

henryporter wrote: »

Ahem...

Face like a gowl.

LivelineDipso · 29-11-2012 03:44PM

henryporter wrote: »

Ahem...

Is this photo for real? Is that a Man City top he is wearing? What happened to his 'reall Man U o deh people' top?

Oh wait, he is a typical Orish 'passionate' soccer fan. He changes his support to whoever won the league in England and would not cross the street to support a LOI club.

'real Orish soccer fan."

29-11-2012 03:46PM

LivelineDipso wrote: »

Is this photo for real? Is that a Man City top he is wearing? What happened to his 'reall Man U o deh people' top?

Oh wait, he is a typical Orish 'passionate' soccer fan. He changes his support to whoever won the league in England and would not cross the street to support a LOI club.

'real Orish soccer fan."

OP your not doing it right, you have to call the Irish soccer fans (of the english premier league) bar stoolers.

summerskin · 29-11-2012 03:47PM

LivelineDipso wrote: »

Is this photo for real? Is that a Man City top he is wearing? What happened to his 'reall Man U o deh people' top?

Oh wait, he is a typical Orish 'passionate' soccer fan. He changes his support to whoever won the league in England and would not cross the street to support a LOI club.

'real Orish soccer fan."

looks like dublin GAA to me????

henryporter · 29-11-2012 03:48PM

LivelineDipso wrote: »

Is this photo for real? Is that a Man City top he is wearing? What happened to his 'reall Man U o deh people' top?

Oh wait, he is a typical Orish 'passionate' soccer fan. He changes his support to whoever won the league in England and would not cross the street to support a LOI club.

'real Orish soccer fan."

Ah now - you started out with a good argument but you'll have to stop digging a hole - thats 'dem der Dubs' he's supporting.

LivelineDipso · 29-11-2012 03:51PM

summerskin wrote: »

looks like dublin GAA to me????

Nope, I zoomed in. It is Man City.

What a total weasel he is.

LeinsterDub · 29-11-2012 03:54PM

LivelineDipso wrote: »

Nope, I zoomed in. It is Man City.

What a total weasel he is.

I think your zooming machine is broken

summerskin · 29-11-2012 03:55PM

LivelineDipso wrote: »

Nope, I zoomed in. It is Man City.

What a total weasel he is.

think you need an eyetest, looks nothing like a City badge. Plus it's an O'Neill's coat, City have their kit with Umbro.

LivelineDipso · 29-11-2012 04:00PM

Fair enough - but he is still a ****.

Valetta · 29-11-2012 04:00PM

I'm happy. I hope.

I'm happy, I hope.

Just can't decide which.

SuperGrover · 29-11-2012 04:00PM

LivelineDipso wrote: »

Until this afternoon I really had no idea how finished and insane we are as a nation.

I live in a small town in Midlands. Today I found out that three local shops are pulling down the shutters for the final time tomorrow. These are not long established family businesses. But shops which well intentioned young couples began and made work - providing items and services people would of had to drive 30 or 40 miles to get. They paid their rent, paid for the refitting of the shops and generally brought a lot of life to a gloomy Midlands town.

They are all making enough income to keep going except - the landlord who owns half the town doubled their rent.

He is also from an old GAA/Fianna Fail family. He prides humself on being a "real GAA man" - so much so that his brother who is the headmaster of the local school stopped the school from having a rugby team because he also is a "real GAA man".

The landlord is in dire straits from building housing one-off estates during the boom and his own greed is coming back to haunt him. He is liquidating all his assets in order to claim poverty. If this means killing a small town he is doing it. He's a "Real GAA man" afterall.

He still lives the life of a feudal baron. Now Eda Kenny wants a new tax on small business. You could not make it up.

If this wasn't bad enough there are a lot of civil servants living in this town. Apart from no recession for them, they strut sround town with their noses in the air and with a sense of personal entitlement which borders on sociopathic. Everyone in the town knows that the reduction in public services is to save the salary of the civil servants.

The rest of the town is either on the dole or emigrating.

It's gone too far now. This is rotten little island and the good people are being mauled to keep a kind of public sector elite and the "real GAA men" in their position of wealth and safety.

Stick a fork in us - we are done.

This nonsense discredits the believability of the rest of your post for me.

BrensBenz · 29-11-2012 04:02PM

Yes, I understand the irony of GAA / FF / RCC, etc. types, trying to appear to be more civic-minded than us plebs while actually turning us over. However, the failure of these businesses has little to do with those organisations or to those running them. Inadequate planning, market research, planning, customer satisfaction, planning and, emmm, planning kills businesses much quicker than the GAA ever could.
If you regard a business or a bus service or a post office or whatever as an asset to your community, USE THEM and tell your friends! Otherwise, insert well-known AH acronym.

29-11-2012 04:02PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Sounds like Laos alright

Laois surely?

A Land With No Hope

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