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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13
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Still annoyed about last night's result especially seeing as it was Spurs. Feel the club is cursed ala Mayo and the All Ireland Final. 65% of the possession but not to get anything out of the game. First half we were slow to start but we battered them in the second half.
The team played well, great fight in the side but we are far too reliant on single players with no real backup to take over if they get injured.
GOAL SCORERS
Suarez - 10 (One man we be fecked if he was injured)
Gerrard - 2 (Man looks wrecked and I fear could be one game away from a long term injury)
Enrique - 1 (Playing out of his natural position but doing a great job)
Sahin - 1 (Another €5mil wasted, are we just getting him for Jóse, why isn't he playing more?)
Skrtel - 1 (Solid)
Sterling - 1 (Been overplayed, only 17)
Two own goals (Bale & Baines)
16 GOALS out of 14 GAMES. The average goals for in the league is 19.2 but wildly varies from United with 33 Goals For and QPR on 10 Goals For.
Have you ever seen so many draws lined up so early on in the season. Lost four of fourteen, won three of fourteen and drawn seven games of the fourteen.
It's pretty simple in my head - WE NEED GOALS - WITHOUT GOALS YOU DON'T WIN MATCHES.
I fear the owners won't spend in January or the Summer and we could be destined to mid table for some seasons to come. I hope I'm proven wrong. But one thing they should do is put Downing out for recycling, never have I seen such a coward on the football pitch.
The match on Saturday at home against Southampton is now a must win, in the next seven games you would expect to start picking points up;
Southhampton (H)
West Ham (A)
Aston Villa (H)
Fulham (H)
Stoke (A)
QPR (A)
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Still annoyed about last night's result especially seeing as it was Spurs. Feel the club is cursed ala Mayo and the All Ireland Final. 65% of the possession but not to get anything out of the game. First half we were slow to start but we battered them in the second half.
The team played well, great fight in the side but we are far too reliant on single players with no real backup to take over if they get injured.
GOAL SCORERS
Suarez - 10 (One man we be fecked if he was injured)
Gerrard - 2 (Man looks wrecked and I fear could be one game away from a long term injury)
Enrique - 1 (Playing out of his natural position but doing a great job)
Sahin - 1 (Another €5mil wasted, are we just getting him for Jóse, why isn't he playing more?)
Skrtel - 1 (Solid)
Sterling - 1 (Been overplayed, only 17)
Two own goals (Bale & Baines)
16 GOALS out of 14 GAMES. The average goals for in the league is 19.2 but wildly varies from United with 33 Goals For and QPR on 10 Goals For.
Have you ever seen so many draws lined up so early on in the season. Lost four of fourteen, won three of fourteen and drawn seven games of the fourteen.
It's pretty simple in my head - WE NEED GOALS - WITHOUT GOALS YOU DON'T WIN MATCHES.
I fear the owners won't spend in January or the Summer and we could be destined to mid table for some seasons to come. I hope I'm proven wrong. But one thing they should do is put Downing out for recycling, never have I seen such a coward on the football pitch.
The match on Saturday at home against Southampton is now a must win, in the next seven games you would expect to start picking points up;
Southhampton (H)
West Ham (A)
Aston Villa (H)
Fulham (H)
Stoke (A)
QPR (A)
Sunderland (H)
Some shocking stats there alright. A striker in January is essential if we're to make any progression at all this season.
One thing that bugs me though (and i've seen it numerous times on here lately) - can people please stop saying 'Saturday's game is now a must win'?
Since when were games anything else? Are there 'must draw' and 'must lose' games out there that i'm missing
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Some shocking stats there alright. A striker in January is essential if we're to make any progression at all this season.
One thing that bugs me though (and i've seen it numerous times on here lately) - can people please stop saying 'Saturday's game is now a must win'?
Since when were games anything else? Are there 'must draw' and 'must lose' games out there that i'm missing
Just on the 'must win' game - I stand by it, a winning mentality, a scoring mentality is what's missing from this team. Beating Southampton and beating them well this Saturday could kick us on a winning run on those seven games I listed;
Southhampton (H)
West Ham (A)
Aston Villa (H)
Fulham (H)
Stoke (A)
QPR (A)
Sunderland (H)
I stand by it because picking solid points up from these seven fixtures will make a difference end of season!0 -
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I don't expect us to go our and buy a Cavani, Damiao or Llorente but I think we simply have to buy an established striker for <£10m like Huntelaar, Ba or Walcott. For me, no excuses would be acceptable for not getting someone in in January, it would make a huge difference to the second half of our season. Personally I think Huntelaar would be a no-brainer, he's cheap, experienced, has played with Suarez before to good effect & is quite likely to hit the ground running. I hope we really push the boat out to get him. Unfortunately it seems we're investing most of our energies in pursuing Sturridge at the moment.
I'll offer you a good deal, ye take Sturridge for £10 Million and we'll spend that on Huntelaar?
Thanks.
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So, to confirm, because we won a competition that nobody cares about, got to the final of another marginally less insignificant competition and finished 8th in the League, we should have been expecting to finish 4th this year?
Why is this difficult for people to grasp? If Kenny had stayed, it would be because he was being an additional year to get things right (which he clearly should have been granted). Getting it right would involve achieving the objective he had from the outset - CL Qualification. The expectation would be that his signings bed in better, we focus on the league and rekindle the form of the calendar year 2011.Agree that our standards & expectations have dropped - there's a myriad of factors driving this ie. not winning the League in over 20 years, a calamitous change of ownership which nearly brought the club into administration, a series of unfortunate/ill-conceived/sh1t transfer dealings etc etc.
Not happy or comfortable with the fact that finishing 4th in a League competition should be the main priority for Liverpool right now but times have changed and all the nostalgia in the world isn't change the situation.
This is where my position and that of daithijjj intersect I think. If Dalglish was here last summer the owners would simply not have been able to slash wages, to make laughable offers for Dempsey, to leave a manager high and dry for a badly needed striker.
This is really why I and others are foaming at the mouth - Rodgers embodies a significant lowering of status, expectation and pressure throughout the entire club. We aren't actually trying to compete right now. There is lots of talk, endless talk but the actions and the personnel involved are not competitive.
"Magnificent", "Outstanding", "Relentless" after a loss away at Spurs. Talk about them being the club to emulate. If you forget where you're supposed to be going you'll sure as hell never get there.Kenny is, and always will be, a club legend and the true fans recognise this regardless of their support for the new regime.
I know that. Kenny is still rightly revered amongst those who recognise what this club is about and what he was trying to do last season. That isn't true of everyone though, and a lot of things have been said that should never have been thought.Backing B-Rod/Brendan/The Rodger doesn't make anyone a Kenny hater but if you strip away the nostalgia & sentimentality etc. you've got to surely acknowledge that Kenny's position became untenable after last season??
Two Cup finals? Standing 10 feet tall in his defense of our most important player? No, I wouldn't agree his position was untenable. He absolutely should have received another year - especially if the replacement was Brendan Rodgers.So you, not being a hypocrite would have called for Kennys head if he had us in the same position as BR does right now? Im calling bollox on that im afraid.
I would be talking about replacements at this stage, absolutely.Enough of the Assaidi bum bullshít. You are just coming across as a very sad, bitter, little man. Of course youd rather play our £20m England international left winger, its all about reputation for you afterall.
Wayne Rooney played 33 league games when he was 17/18, 34 the year after. How has his career turned out? Short and washed up?
Cesc Fabregas played 33 league games when he was 17/18, 35 the year after. How has his career turned out? Short and washed up?
You are talking absolute shít as per usual, its embarassing and tbh you are just pathetic nowadays.
I'm not one to use the report feature on here, but your personal abuse cuts me deep, cuts me deep so it does. :pac:
Did you watch our last two games? Sterling look sprightly and full of the joys of spring to you? His workload is far too excessive for a player his age. He's on course for too much football with full International appearances, etc, and I was saying it way before that undue toll started to show itself on the pitch.And one more thing Lloyd. What would you, as the manager of LFC, do with Downing, Carroll, Henderson and Adam? Knowing that they were the main reason the last manager lost his job, would you keep them around and play them all the time just because they are a part of the squad? Ignoring the fact that they are an embarassment to the jersey and are being shown up by kids.
daithijjj has addressed this before. They should have got another season within the system. We've dumped them too quickly imo. Carroll should definitely be around as an option, I didn't think that was even debateable?And how long can you go without winning something before that "top class" tag is taken off you? 17 years without a trophy seems to be perfectly acceptable around here.
Seems he won another trophy in his 18 months back at the helm, but what do I know...Your a disgrace.....
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