The Hazards of Belief

FouxDaFaFa · 26-11-2012 05:31PM

I don't want to click on the link about the child because I don't think I could handle worse pictures but does anyone know why they were doing that to him and if he survived?

Such a disturbing photo.

robindch · 26-11-2012 05:51PM

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

[...] does anyone know why they were doing that to him and if he survived?

Up to a few minutes ago, I'd thought that Ashura was in commemoration of Abraham's willingness to execute his own son. Turns out that Ashura is islam-specific and commemorates the death of Mohammad's grandson at some battle or other. I don't quite get why men are expected to cut themselves to ribbons, but I'm assuming the following page explains it somewhere or other:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Ashura

I assume the child in the picture above was only cut with the knife, rather than murdered.

Bannasidhe · 26-11-2012 06:07PM

robindch wrote: »

Up to a few minutes ago, I'd thought that Ashura was in commemoration of Abraham's willingness to execute his own son. Turns out that Ashura is islam-specific and commemorates the death of Mohammad's grandson at some battle or other. I don't quite get why men are expected to cut themselves to ribbons, but I'm assuming the following page explains it somewhere or other:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Ashura

I assume the child in the picture above was only cut with the knife, rather than murdered.

If adults want to cut/flay/whatever themselves then that is their bat**** crazy right - but step away from the children. :mad:

Gbear · 26-11-2012 08:22PM

http://imgur.com/a/izbvk

There's more pictures there if you feel like getting angry.

The thing that pissed me off the most (after assaulting children) was the captions to all the photos:

A young Indian Shiite Muslim cries as an elder makes a cut on his forehead with a knife during a procession to mark Ashura in Hyderabad, India

An Indian Shiite Muslim cuts the forehead of a Shiite child during a religious procession during the Ashura mourning period in Mumbai

**** them. Seriously. I'm fairly certain even a child isn't stupid enough to agree to getting stabbed in the face if they were actually given the choice.

How can we possibly coexist on a planet with this shower of nutters? How prevalent is this in Islam?

Nodin · 26-11-2012 09:36PM

..its only shia Islam and not everyone does it. In some countries its illegal to involve young kids. I remember some head getting done across the water for something similar.

Galvasean · 26-11-2012 09:53PM

Just when I thought I has seen it all. Does one's brain not kick in at same point and say, "Hey, maybe I shouldn't be cutting some poor child's head"!
Indocrination is scary stuff indeed...

Turtwig · 26-11-2012 10:26PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Just when I thought I has seen it all. Does one's brain not kick in at same point and say, "Hey, maybe I shouldn't be cutting some poor child's head"!

Nah it's more likely they'll look extremely far and wide for tenuous links to possible health benefits of the ritual.

Nodin · 26-11-2012 10:39PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Just when I thought I has seen it all. Does one's brain not kick in at same point and say, "Hey, maybe I shouldn't be cutting some poor child's head"!
Indocrination is scary stuff indeed...

Used be a catholic thing....them immigrants rob everything....

(it is wrong draggin kids into them things though...otherwise flog away)

Nodin · 26-11-2012 10:42PM

Make of this what ye will.........

Almost half of the lay people who voted against legislation to allow female bishops in the Church of England were women, according to figures released on Monday, as senior members of the church were urged to speed up reform or risk consigning it to years of ignominy and irrelevance.

Voting records released by Church House showed 33 of the 74 General Synod lay members who last week caused the long-awaited measure to fail were women and most of them are affiliated to the conservative evangelical group Reform or the traditional Anglo-Catholic movement Forward in Faith.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/26/church-radical-strategy-female-bishops-memo

Aenaes · 27-11-2012 12:27AM

Wait, they can have women clergy but not women bishops? Never knew that. Oh well, just another thing that doesn't make sense I suppose.

Galvasean · 27-11-2012 12:33PM

Angus T. Jones quits Two & A Half Men, finds God.
http://www.krank.ie/category/snippet/stop-filling-your-head-with-filth/

The Benefits of Belief?

seamus · 27-11-2012 12:42PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Angus T. Jones quits Two & A Half Men, finds God.
http://www.krank.ie/category/snippet/stop-filling-your-head-with-filth/

The Benefits of Belief?

Theist in "unable to separate reality from fiction" shocker.

Though I suspect when the studio holds up his contract in front of him, he'll finish it out. Cos, y'know, who needs principles when you're being sued for breach of contract?

kylith · 27-11-2012 01:57PM

seamus wrote: »

Theist in "unable to separate reality from fiction" shocker.

Though I suspect when the studio holds up his contract in front of him, he'll finish it out. Cos, y'know, who needs principles when you're being sued for breach of contract?

Yeah, it's amazing what a solicitor's letter will do for the whole 'I need to stay on the show so I can use it to warn people of the dangers of excess' attitude.

MrPudding · 28-11-2012 09:16AM

pbowenroe wrote: »

I wonder could the 'guru' be tried for attempted murder?:D If he really believed that he could kill him, isn't that what happened there?

In the UK it is possible to be tried and convicted for an "impossible attempt."

MrP

legspin · 28-11-2012 09:18AM

MrPudding wrote: »

In the UK it is possible to be tried and convicted for an "impossible attempt."

MrP

I suppose the intent to kill is seen as being important enough to warrant it being an offence.

robindch · 28-11-2012 12:05PM

Galvasean wrote: »

Angus T. Jones quits Two & A Half Men, finds God.
http://www.krank.ie/category/snippet/stop-filling-your-head-with-filth/

Having had a day or so to think about it, Mr Jones issues a splendid unpology in which he apologizes for nothing in particular and evinces appreciation of an "extraordinary opportunity", perhaps connected to his massive salary:

Before: http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/two-and-a-half-men-filth-691229-Nov2012/

After: http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/two-and-a-half-men-filth-2-692726-Nov2012/

FouxDaFaFa · 28-11-2012 12:14PM

I find it funny that he's so desperate to get off the show but he's only recently renewed his contract.

FouxDaFaFa · 28-11-2012 12:52PM

7 Egyptian participants in the film "Innocence of Muslims" sentenced to death. (Thankfully, in absentia).

"The seven accused persons were convicted of insulting the Islamic religion through participating in producing and offering a movie that insults Islam and its prophet," said the judge, Saif al-Nasr Soliman.

Galvasean · 28-11-2012 01:06PM

Egyptian justice:

28-11-2012 01:53PM

robindch wrote: »

Having had a day or so to think about it, Mr Jones issues a splendid unpology in which he apologizes for nothing in particular and evinces appreciation of an "extraordinary opportunity", perhaps connected to his massive salary:

Before: http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/two-and-a-half-men-filth-691229-Nov2012/

After: http://thedailyedge.thejournal.ie/two-and-a-half-men-filth-2-692726-Nov2012/

I was thinking thejournal had improved a lot when it comes to grammar and spelling but now I'm just waiting for a "v" at the end of their "articles" when someone's finger slips off the ctrl button.

pauldla · 28-11-2012 03:42PM

Man Faces Death Threats and Jail for Pointing Out That Weeping Jesus "Miracle" Is Just Faulty Plumbing

Sanal Edamaruku faces jail for revealing 'tears' trickling down a Mumbai church statue came from clogged drainage pipes.

November 26, 2012 |

When water started trickling down a statue of Jesus Christ at a Catholic church in Mumbai earlier this year, locals were quick to declare a miracle. Some began collecting the holy water and the Church of Our Lady of Velankanni began to promote it as a site of pilgrimage.
So when Sanal Edamaruku arrived and established that this was not holy water so much as holey plumbing, the backlash was severe. The renowned rationalist was accused of blasphemy, charged with offences that carry a three-year prison sentence and eventually, after receiving death threats, had to seek exile in Finland.

http://www.alternet.org/man-faces-death-threats-and-jail-pointing-out-weeping-jesus-miracle-just-faulty-plumbing?akid=9721.1087120.k1sq6c&rd=1&src=newsletter750513&t=11

Galvasean · 29-11-2012 04:06PM

Truth hurts...

Aenaes · 29-11-2012 05:57PM

Hurts even worse when it affects their coffers.

Mark Hamill · 29-11-2012 05:59PM

You would assume people who were just shown to be worshipping a false idol would be reluctant to start labelling someone else as blasphemer.

Links234 · 29-11-2012 06:14PM

recedite · 29-11-2012 09:25PM

robindch wrote: »

a splendid unpology

I see what you did there, definition example #2 :pac::pac:

Hotblack Desiato · 30-11-2012 09:14AM

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/1130/1224327302533.html

More than one in five Irish Catholics do not believe in the resurrection of Jesus or that God created the universe, according to the Ipsos MRBI 50th anniversary poll.

It found also that 7 per cent of Irish Catholics do not even believe in God.

When it comes to making serious moral decisions, more than three-quarters (78 per cent) of Irish Catholics follow their own conscience rather than church teaching (17 per cent). Almost half of Irish Catholics (45 per cent) do not believe in Hell while almost a fifth (18 per cent) do not believe that God created man.

Overall, the poll found 90 per cent of respondents described themselves as Catholic, with 2 per cent Protestant, 2 per cent another religion, 5 per cent none, and 1 per cent refusing to say.

So according to this article, people who describe themselves as Irish Catholics are less likely to believe in god than Irish people as a whole. Wtf?!?!

seamus · 30-11-2012 09:23AM

Good old Irish Catholicism. "The Pope and God and shít, nah man that's a pile of crap. But hurry up and finish your pint or we'll be late for midnight mass".

Beruthiel · 30-11-2012 10:18AM

ninja900 wrote: »

So according to this article, people who describe themselves as Irish Catholics are less likely to believe in god than Irish people as a whole. Wtf?!?!

I believe you have to be a special kind of idiot to think you are still a catholic if you do not believe it god.
These kind of people have never engaged that particular part of the brain which houses logic and critical thinking.

magicbastarder · 30-11-2012 01:13PM

pat robertson, of all people, counters the '6000 years old' myth:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/28/pat-robertson-creationism-earth-is-not-6000-years-old_n_2207275.html

The Hazards of Belief

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