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Squats the story - the Off Topic Thread...

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  • #8912
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    JJayoo wrote: »
    So you would advise avoiding ATG squatting? Think I'm yet to see someone squat atg without their lower back rounding.

    You're looking at the wrong people so.

    And "ass to grass" squatting is something weak people latch onto as an excuse as to why their squat is so low.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl3Vldo7x4c


  • #8913
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,005 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Perhaps we are talking about different things. I'm talking about the way your ass tucks in towards your heels at the very bottom of the squat

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOsjJVduFTY






    When you squat you stop at parallel and your ass does not tuck under.



  • #8914
    d'Oracle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,024 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Perhaps we are talking about different things. I'm talking about the way your ass tucks in towards your heels at the very bottom of the squat

    I think you, as in you singular, are talking about two different things.
    Mendes tucks a little in that one. Clarence and Chekarov don't round their backs at all there.

    I think you are confusing lumbar flexion with hitting full hip, knee and ankle flexion. Or rather mistaking them for the same thing.


  • #8915
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,005 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Think your might be right Oracle. Seems I'm talking about butt winking


    The above video is a pretty mild example but shes pretty so :pac:

    http://articles.elitefts.com/training-articles/is-your-squat-too-low-needs-pics/

    "What exactly is the “tuck under?” While squatting, the coccyx and pelvis are pulled under the body when the lifter reaches a lower depth, thus the tuck under. It may happen at different points for different lifters, but the result is the same. The load on the lumbar spine is magnified and, under a substantial load, could result in disc herniations or worse. During a squat of 0.8–1.6 times body weight, the compressive forces on the lumbar spine are as great as ten times body weight (Cappozzo, et al). Imagine the compressive loads as lifters get up to double and triple body weight. Then add instability at the lumbar spine by pulling the coccyx under the body and adding a curve to the lumbar spine. The result is astronomical. For most general lifters, depth of the squat can be adjusted and worked to lower points over time"


  • #8916
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Perhaps we are talking about different things. I'm talking about the way your ass tucks in towards your heels at the very bottom of the squat

    Two of those videos show rock bottom squats with a straight back.

    The Mendes vid has a small tuck.
    When you squat you stop at parallel and your ass does not tuck under.

    That's funny. I actually know how I squat, and my bar and foot position is totally different to the vids you posted, so incomparable anyway. And they were actually below parallel.


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  • #8917
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,005 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Someone's very defensive this morning. I was not criticizing you in anyway ,I was asking a question. Maybe your not familiar with people asking questions. I explained in my previous message that I was mixed up between squatting with a rounded lower back and tucking/butt winking.


  • #8918
    Zombienosh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    just had the most amazing porridge.
    I usually make mine with coconut milk and put in flax seed oils, sunflower seeds, coconut oil & a banana and some maple syrup.

    Today I had no bananas so instead threw in a scoop of Banana cream whey and it was delish, It made it sweet enough that I didn't need the maple syrup.
    This will be the staple breakfast from now on.


  • #8919
    d'Oracle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,024 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Zombienosh wrote: »
    just had the most amazing porridge.

    I literally never thought I would ever hear or read that.


  • #8920
    MrPain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 440 ✭✭MrPain


    Anyone know some place that sell dress shirts that have an athletic cut or experience with a tailor/alterations place that isn't going to break the bank?
    I have a 16.5 neck but wear 30inch pants and this usually result in looking like a tent around the waist. Edit: in dublin.


  • #8921
    Inspector Coptoor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,818 ✭✭✭Inspector Coptoor


    MrPain wrote: »
    Anyone know some place that sell dress shirts that have an athletic cut or experience with a tailor/alterations place that isn't going to break the bank?
    I have a 16.5 neck but wear 30inch pants and this usually result in looking like a tent around the waist. Edit: in dublin.

    I've a 17 inch neck, and while my waist would be around the 35/36 mark, I have the same problem with shirts.

    What do you think is breaking the bank?

    I got 3 fully fitted TM Lewin shirts in House of Fraser Dundrum for €129.
    Great quality, excellent fit & don't hang off me like a moo moo


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  • #8922
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Someone's very defensive this morning. I was not criticizing you in anyway ,I was asking a question. Maybe your not familiar with people asking questions. I explained in my previous message that I was mixed up between squatting with a rounded lower back and tucking/butt winking.

    I didn't read the previous message. And I wasn't being defensive. Maybe you're being paranoid?


  • #8923
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,005 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Maybe you're being paranoid?
    :rolleyes: Ya sure, I'm the paranoid one on boards lol


  • #8924
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    JJayoo wrote: »
    :rolleyes: Ya sure, I'm the paranoid one on boards lol

    that's good - confronting it is the first step :)


  • #8925
    boomtown84
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭boomtown84


    Inspector Coptoor wrote: »
    I've a 17 inch neck, and while my waist would be around the 35/36 mark, I have the same problem with shirts.

    What do you think is breaking the bank?

    I got 3 fully fitted TM Lewin shirts in House of Fraser Dundrum for €129.
    Great quality, excellent fit & don't hang off me like a moo moo

    That's pretty good. Anyone know anywhere that does something similar on the Northside or in town for a reasonable price? There are far too many tailors/suit shops in Dublin to be ringing around.


  • #8926
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    boomtown84 wrote: »
    That's pretty good. Anyone know anywhere that does something similar on the Northside or in town for a reasonable price? There are far too many tailors/suit shops in Dublin to be ringing around.

    There's a TM Lewin on South Anne Street opposite Eddies too.

    Zara do some pretty nice fitted shirts too.


  • #8927
    JoeyDoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭JoeyDoh


    Hanley wrote: »
    There's a TM Lewin on South Anne Street opposite Eddies too.

    Zara do some pretty nice fitted shirts too.

    +1 for Zara, good quality too and last an age.


  • #8928
    colman1212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭colman1212


    So what do people think of the thumbless grip on the bench press? I used it tonight for the first time. Would never use it without a spotter but I found it quite good. It puts my shoulders in the correct position. I have a history of benching with my shoulders and triceps which I've had trouble moving away from. This seems to put my shoulders in the correct position and stop them from rolling forward...cos if they do roll forward you drop the bar lol.
    Anyways it seems to help me target chest. Interested to hear opinions..


  • #8929
    jugger0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    colman1212 wrote: »
    So what do people think of the thumbless grip on the bench press? I used it tonight for the first time. Would never use it without a spotter but I found it quite good. It puts my shoulders in the correct position. I have a history of benching with my shoulders and triceps which I've had trouble moving away from. This seems to put my shoulders in the correct position and stop them from rolling forward...cos if they do roll forward you drop the bar lol.
    Anyways it seems to help me target chest. Interested to hear opinions..

    Hell nahhhh

    Ive seen too many bench press vids like this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv7IoVPUZPE


  • #8930
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    colman1212 wrote: »
    So what do people think of the thumbless grip on the bench press? I used it tonight for the first time. Would never use it without a spotter but I found it quite good. It puts my shoulders in the correct position. I have a history of benching with my shoulders and triceps which I've had trouble moving away from. This seems to put my shoulders in the correct position and stop them from rolling forward...cos if they do roll forward you drop the bar lol.
    Anyways it seems to help me target chest. Interested to hear opinions..

    Just put your hand in the correct position on the bar instead (hint: it sits from webby part of yout thumb down towards the base of your palm, not straight across).

    I'll try to take a pic tonight if I can.


  • #8931
    Dathai
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Dathai


    Has anyone got any decent shoulder warm ups, specifically for the squat?

    I'm getting killed trying to get under the bar due to shoulder flexibility. I've been doing loads of dislocates (well, attempting, I cant get very good ROM using a stick atm, but bands work well) and chest stretches before I squat, but it's still very difficult to get under the bar and get set up. Should I just keep hacking away at the dislocates?


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  • #8932
    Mr. Rager
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭Mr. Rager


    In other news:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwsEdKxYKeY


  • #8933
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Dathai wrote: »
    Has anyone got any decent shoulder warm ups, specifically for the squat?

    I'm getting killed trying to get under the bar due to shoulder flexibility. I've been doing loads of dislocates (well, attempting, I cant get very good ROM using a stick atm, but bands work well) and chest stretches before I squat, but it's still very difficult to get under the bar and get set up. Should I just keep hacking away at the dislocates?

    Ah c'mon... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056817175


  • #8934
    Dathai
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Dathai


    Hanley wrote: »

    Ah c'mon... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056817175

    I did see that, Hanley. I do something similar, I use the green band as it is in the image, place my palms flat agains the bands with my elbow still in the sling, but I turn away to stretch my chest and shoulder. I figured the way you had shown was specifically targeted towards elbow tendinitis. I'll give it a go.


  • #8935
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Dathai wrote: »
    I did see that, Hanley. I do something similar, I use the green band as it is in the image, place my palms flat agains the bands with my elbow still in the sling, but I turn away to stretch my chest and shoulder. I figured the way you had shown was specifically targeted towards elbow tendinitis. I'll give it a go.

    Nah it's actually specifically for external rotation, a lack of which is causing my elbow trouble!!

    It's my own twist on the mobilization you mentioned there. I like it, but its too easy to compensate by turning into the stretch and losing the tension. Teaming up the bands makes it super awesome.


  • #8936
    jugger0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    Anyone know of decent shorts to squat in? surprisingly hard to find a good pair... major kudos if they look like rugby shorts too.


  • #8937
    Hanley
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    jugger0 wrote: »
    Anyone know of decent shorts to squat in? surprisingly hard to find a good pair... major kudos if they look like rugby shorts too.

    Nike DriFit or UnderArmor are awesome (the loose fit type, obviously)

    Rugby shorts suck for squatting.


  • #8938
    jugger0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    Hanley wrote: »

    Rugby shorts suck for squatting.

    Ages ago i got a great pair of shorts, they look like rugby shorts but were flexible as fook, haven't been able to find them again tho.. rage.


  • #8939
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,702 ✭✭✭squod


    jugger0 wrote: »
    Anyone know of decent shorts to squat in? surprisingly hard to find a good pair... major kudos if they look like rugby shorts too.

    Grey cotton baggy jogging pants from cedarwood state. Epic sports wear, only available from Penny's don't you know!

    Cut them off at the knee. Perfecto.


  • #8940
    Fizman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    Apologies if this has been mentioned but I haven't been on the forum in a while and nothing obvious appeared under search.....but do any of you have any details on the gym in Limerick that will be re-opening in the location where JJB was originally?


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  • #8941
    Michael 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭Michael 09


    Mr. Rager wrote: »
    In other news:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwsEdKxYKeY

    WTF - black and navy combo?? Tut tut


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