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aer lingus cork new york

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  • #32
    roundymac
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    A320 wrote: »
    And not forgetting how terrible the road is,I believe the money is there for the motorway but the problem is land legal battles
    And An Taisce(:mad:) are objecting as well, saying there is no need for a new road. Makes no difference anyhow, there's no money there to build one.


  • #33
    A320
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    roundymac wrote: »
    And An Taisce(:mad:) are objecting as well, saying there is no need for a new road. Makes no difference anyhow, there's no money there to build one.

    It makes a difference when you get stuck behind morons in buttevant and charleville a few times a week!! Guy from NRA was on newstalk and said money is there for it but maybe that's spin.


  • #34
    roundymac
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    If the money is there for it why don't they go ahead and do it. It'll give the local economy a boost as well as solving a problem.


  • #35
    kub
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    Just re that road, if you lads have the time, have a read here- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055372963

    These guys love roads the way we love aircraft.


  • #36
    A320
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    roundymac wrote: »
    If the money is there for it why don't they go ahead and do it. It'll give the local economy a boost as well as solving a problem.

    People in those towns aren't too pleased with loss of business and there will be no dedicated buttevant turn off/junction


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  • #37
    Tenger
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,274 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    roundymac wrote: »
    If the money is there for it why don't they go ahead and do it...

    Its a conspiracy by the DAA


  • #38
    Stovepipe
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    Hi there
    To get back on topic, I was only talking to someone in the know about this the other day and allegedly EI cast about for a 757 to do the job but good, winglet-equipped, clean 757s are very scarce. Ei's A330s can fit into Cork but cannot carry viable fuel-vs-pax load, to justify the route.

    regards
    Stovepipe


  • #39
    roundymac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    Stovepipe wrote: »
    Hi there
    To get back on topic, I was only talking to someone in the know about this the other day and allegedly EI cast about for a 757 to do the job but good, winglet-equipped, clean 757s are very scarce. Ei's A330s can fit into Cork but cannot carry viable fuel-vs-pax load, to justify the route.

    regards
    Stovepipe
    Even if they could take a full load I don't the business is there for an A330 ex Cork, maybe for a 757 but I would think twice weekly at most. I heard that about the shortage of 757's, apparently the US majors are grabbing any that are going because they are finding excellent value on light T/A routes.


  • #40
    kub
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    roundymac wrote: »
    Even if they could take a full load I don't the business is there for an A330 ex Cork, maybe for a 757 but I would think twice weekly at most. I heard that about the shortage of 757's, apparently the US majors are grabbing any that are going because they are finding excellent value on light T/A routes.

    I wonder will Boeing regret that decision? Will Boeing introduce a 737 type plane that will fill in for the 757?

    Will Airbus go for ETOPS on the new A320NEO...they would be mad not too.

    Thats all Cork needs, a plane like one of the above and the will of the DAA especially now after the Shannon news today. They will not want the good people of Cork boarding planes in an airport which they are now competing with.


  • #41
    Tenger
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    kub wrote: »
    I wonder will Boeing regret that decision? Will Boeing introduce a 737 type plane that will fill in for the 757?

    Will Airbus go for ETOPS on the new A320NEO...they would be mad not too......
    Well this is off topic but the B757 line was closed quite a while ago die to orders drying up. I think there weer only 5-6 orders in the last 12 months of operation. The major use for the B757 was trans-con US flights. Euro airlines weren't as sold on it. (Of course it did sell a decent number of units in outside the US) It had a high power ratio for use in hot and high conditions.

    Then the fuel price started to climb, so ticket prices followed and suddenly the US airlines realised that there were unable to fill those B767's/Dc-10's that they had doing intercontinental. Suddenly the B757 (especially the -200 version with retro fitted winglets) seemed to be a great idea on intercontinental 'thinner' routes. Smaller aircraft, so easier to fill and more fuel efficient than the B767/DC-10. (Not hard on the latter)

    Notive how most new routes from US airlines to Ireland are using B757's, less of a risk than a B767/A330.

    So after the production stopped the B757 experienced a new lease of life. However this lease is quite a niche situation. the A321NEO/B739NG/B737-9MAX between them will cover approx 90% of the current B757 missions. So it appears that both A and B are happy to let that 10% go rather than making a new aircraft and/or greatly altering an existing airframe. Indeed the B787 as originally envisioned was to replace both the B757 and the B767.

    I believe neither the B737-9MAX or the A321NEO will have the same range as the B752. I do stand to be corrected on this. Of course further engine improvements (particularly in teh case of the A321) may increase range and allow them to fill that 10% down the line.


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