A World without relgion:

Neewbie_noob · 26-11-2012 08:32PM #1

Imagine a world without religion, would it be a better or worse place?

Sorry mods if this has been done already, feel free to move to Atheism thread, but I don't want it there or in the religion thread, because I want to get an equal scope from both believers and non believers.

In childhood, (especially my fathers) we were told about burning in Hell for sins and that God is watching us all the time, in my opinion this constitutes psychological torture. People who believe in religion are very often pushing their beliefs on others who don't such as anti-abortion laws and even the restriction of things like IVF in Ireland.

Religion and the Catholic Church has had a strangle hold on affairs in Ireland and indeed throughout the World.

Do you think we would be much more technologically advanced than we are now were it not for the Church and organised religion in general?

PLEASE keep this a civilized thread

franktheplank · 26-11-2012 08:33PM

There'd be no Father Ted.

Just Sayin

Max Power · 26-11-2012 08:33PM

How many fathers you got?

kfallon · 26-11-2012 08:34PM

And the day was going so well.......

phasers · 26-11-2012 08:34PM

Well we wouldn't have had the Dark Ages so in theory we'd be several hundred years more advanced

Celly Smunt · 26-11-2012 08:34PM

Other

you need a balance,religion keeps the lunatics occupied.

CianRyan · 26-11-2012 08:38PM

I am unsure about God's existence and don't like Religion

I'm not religious, infact I hate religion.
It teaches hate, intolerable and forces people to feel worthless infront of their leaders.
Without religion there would be no holy wars yet people would still be "moral" in the sense that we can be nice to each other and love each other, no matter where we're from or what we look like.

I won't attack anyone for being religious and I won't push my beliefs on anyone who's religious, unfortunately the same can't be said in reverse.

Zamboni · 26-11-2012 08:40PM

atari jaguar

Archeron · 26-11-2012 08:40PM

Imagine a world without calgon. Washing machines live longer with calgon.

im invisible · 26-11-2012 08:42PM

you may say i'm a dreamer

Death and Taxes · 26-11-2012 08:42PM

I am unsure about God's existence and don't like Religion

Archeron wrote: »

Imagine a world without calgon. Washing machines live longer with calgon.

Yea, but does it turn water into wine?

Riddle101 · 26-11-2012 08:42PM

I am unsure about God's existence and like religion

phasers wrote: »

Well we wouldn't have had the Dark Ages so in theory we'd be several hundred years more advanced

Agreed, think about the scientific studies that were done in the past that were denounced by the church, or put down because they believe it went against god.

Also there would be a lot less wars as well. The Crusades would probably never have happened, a lot of tension between Israel and Palestine stems from a dispute over land. Palestine believes a certain patch of land(can't remember what it's called) is their land, but Israelis have built on it claiming it as their own, saying it was given to them from god.

DrumSteve · 26-11-2012 08:45PM

In a world without religion we'd have less religion threads in AH.

I can only work my way up to antipathy for this.

Rigol · 26-11-2012 08:45PM

Outlaw spirituality ...thats what I say.
And stop people with similar beliefs gathering in groups too.

hawhawhaw .... all that sentience stuff.

Ave Sodalis · 26-11-2012 08:51PM

I am unsure about God's existence and don't like Religion

Rigol wrote: »

Outlaw spirituality ...

Religion and spirituality are two different things though...

philologos · 26-11-2012 08:52PM

Using religion as a general concept is meaningless. From a personal perspective, I can see how many creeds aren't positive. I can also see how many forms of secular thinking aren't positive.

Therefore, I can't really answer this thread positively either way. It depends on what concept of god you are referring to, and it depends on what religions you are talking about.

In some respects we might agree.

Rigol · 26-11-2012 08:54PM

sup_dude wrote: »

Religion and spirituality are two different things though...

Religion is organised group spirituality.

krudler · 26-11-2012 08:55PM

I am unsure about God's existence and don't like Religion

sup_dude wrote: »

Religion and spirituality are two different things though...

"I'm spiritual" is usually the getout clause for people who believe in some of the nonsense, but not all of it.

B.A._Baracus · 26-11-2012 08:59PM

We all know 'I do not believe in God and do not like Religion' is going to top the polls. Alot of atheists on boards :P

For me, I believe in god. I also believe that most religions are just businesses. But hey, if someone wants to goto church every sunday, hand over a few quid and the whole lot that comes with... who am I to tell them what to do. Who is anyone of us. Each to their own.

Pilotdude5 · 26-11-2012 09:01PM

I am unsure about God's existence and don't like Religion

I find Religion quite disturbing to be honest. Its an odd way to look at the world. Everybody is equal.

krudler · 26-11-2012 09:06PM

I am unsure about God's existence and don't like Religion

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

We all know 'I do not believe in God and do not like Religion' is going to top the polls. Alot of atheists on boards :P

For me, I believe in god. I also believe that most religions are just businesses. But hey, if someone wants to goto church every sunday, hand over a few quid and the whole lot that comes with... who am I to tell them what to do. Who is anyone of us. Each to their own.

believing in something isnt dangerous, organised belief is.

philologos · 26-11-2012 09:10PM

Pilotdude5 wrote: »

I find Religion quite disturbing to be honest. Its an odd way to look at the world. Everybody is equal.

What do you find "disturbing" and which beliefs are you discussing?

mattjack · 26-11-2012 09:12PM

pmcmahon wrote: »

you need a balance,religion keeps the lunatics occupied.

We'll see who'se a lunatic when I collect my 76 virgins.

B.A._Baracus · 26-11-2012 09:12PM

krudler wrote: »

believing in something isnt dangerous, organised belief is.

Alot of organised belief is this world. Not just with religions.

For me it isnt religion that is wrong in the world. its people. So lets say we live in a world without religion (as per the thread title :pac:) ... still be wars. Still be racism...

Red Pepper · 26-11-2012 09:16PM

I am unsure about God's existence and don't like Religion

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Alot of organised belief is this world. Not just with religions.

It's dangerous when you make the 'belief' up as you go along and when the belief is utterly without proof.

Rigol · 26-11-2012 09:18PM

People confusing tribalism with religion.

You don't need religion for massacres, money, monarchy, land or outward appearance will all do fine.

Mr. CooL ICE · 26-11-2012 09:26PM

Gods. A grand bunch of deities

bb1234567 · 26-11-2012 09:43PM

I believe in God and dislike Religion

Surprised by the amount of atheists on here. Are there as high numbers of athesists in real life? I only know of a few....anyways religion is important to me. I full believe in god, I'd get really depressed without religion or if it was proven there was no god or afterlife. I really dislike the catholic church though.

EmptyTree · 26-11-2012 09:45PM

Family Guys take on the world before religion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IprePwGGXI

On a more serious note, a lot of people seem to be saying there would be a lot less wars if religion didn't exist. I'm not so sure about this, I think religion has very often been used as a convenient smoke screen to kick something off when in fact the real reason was land or resources.

Liveforrugby · 26-11-2012 09:53PM

I believe in God and dislike Religion

People think they are too smart for religion

Pilotdude5 · 26-11-2012 10:00PM

I am unsure about God's existence and don't like Religion

philologos wrote: »

What do you find "disturbing" and which beliefs are you discussing?

All current beliefs really. Its simply too early in human history to jump to conclusions. I'm not going to stop people believing anything as it would be hypocritical but I just wish people would be more open minded and acknowledge that we are all the same. We have only been traveling into space since to 60's. Our 'world' is not this planet, its the entire universe. I would like to explore and find answers instead of believing texts that were written when had limited sources of information.
Its fine to have guidance for trying to live morally initially but there comes a point where you should do it yourself. Like taking off the stabilizers on a bike i guess.
I'm not giving a very structured answer but you get the gist of what I'm saying.

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