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Going rate for castrating

  • 24-11-2012 08:32PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭


    I got 3 bullocks done last week by a neighbour he charged me 30 quid. Have eleven more to do. Am thinking another 30 is enough to give him. Would a vet charge 60 quid to do 14 bullocks?

    Neighbour has a right good handling facility very safe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭DMAXMAN


    we have a guythat does ours in our yard, he usually charges 50 cash to do 20-25.normally takes about two hours


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭ootbitb


    vet charged me €100 for ten a few years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Bodacious


    ootbitb wrote: »
    vet charged me €100 for ten a few years ago.

    I know of a case where a vet charged 100 for 1, callout, travel, vat etc

    I squeeze cattle and I wouldn't take the squeezers out of the jeep if I didn't get a 10 a beast,

    That neighbour is thinking the same when he asked for 30 for 3, I'd say the fair price in this case would be to give him 70 this time ie 100 euro for 14, but safest option is to ask him what you owe him, remember you might want them done next year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    20silkcut wrote: »
    I got 3 bullocks done last week by a neighbour he charged me 30 quid. Have eleven more to do. Am thinking another 30 is enough to give him. Would a vet charge 60 quid to do 14 bullocks?

    Neighbour has a right good handling facility very safe.
    Why don't you get someone to show you how it is done and invest in a burdizzo? A neighbour charging €10 an animal, I guess the days of neighbours helping out one another are well and truly gone.
    Bodacious wrote: »
    I know of a case where a vet charged 100 for 1, callout, travel, vat etc

    I squeeze cattle and I wouldn't take the squeezers out of the jeep if I didn't get a 10 a beast,

    That neighbour is thinking the same when he asked for 30 for 3, I'd say the fair price in this case would be to give him 70 this time ie 100 euro for 14, but safest option is to ask him what you owe him, remember you might want them done next year
    Your squeezers must be spending a lot of time in the jeep.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 9,047 Mod ✭✭✭✭greysides


    Bodacious wrote: »
    I know of a case where a vet charged 100 for 1, callout, travel, vat etc

    :confused:

    I would imagine there's more to that than is immediately obvious.

    To start with, was it a burdizzo castration and what were the facilities like, was general anaesthesia required?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Most vets charge a call out fee and this oftens covers the first 2-3 animals and after that they charge 5-6 euro's/animal. So a vet would charge about 100 euro's for 10 animals and he would give you a reciept.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 Jamesleacy501


    Bodacious wrote: »
    I know of a case where a vet charged 100 for 1, callout, travel, vat etc

    I squeeze cattle and I wouldn't take the squeezers out of the jeep if I didn't get a 10 a beast,

    That neighbour is thinking the same when he asked for 30 for 3, I'd say the fair price in this case would be to give him 70 this time ie 100 euro for 14, but safest option is to ask him what you owe him, remember you might want them done next year

    I can understand a vet charging 10 a head but a farmer charging 10 a head is a bit much! Fair play tho if your able to get 10 a head!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭thetiredfarmer


    20silkcut wrote: »
    I got 3 bullocks done last week by a neighbour he charged me 30 quid. Have eleven more to do. Am thinking another 30 is enough to give him. Would a vet charge 60 quid to do 14 bullocks?

    Neighbour has a right good handling facility very safe.

    I think if your neighbour is supplying handling facilities aswell as doing the work then he is certainly not over charging you.
    Just tell him you have 11 more to do and ask what it will cost,if it sounds too much then use some one else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Bodacious


    greysides wrote: »
    :confused:

    I would imagine there's more to that than is immediately obvious.

    To start with, was it a burdizzo castration and what were the facilities like, was general anaesthesia required?

    HI greysides, yep burdizzo castration but vet not from this area and they prob had him pestered to come out to do one calf and he could have been an hour there chasing him around the garden first:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Bodacious


    I can understand a vet charging 10 a head but a farmer charging 10 a head is a bit much! Fair play tho if your able to get 10 a head!

    hi james,

    I wouldnt be doing big herds you see, if a fella wants me to come out to his place say 10 miles away after work or on a saturday to do 2 or 3 calves you'd have to get 20 0r 30 respectively, there is no point being a busy fool, think of the diesel (a taxi out there would be a E10-E15 alone) then think of the work id be doing at home if i wasnt out there doing other peoples and there is more thought of you if you do a good job and charge accordingly than be working for nothing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭degetme


    vet charging 7e plus vat per animal for castration. 20 in bunch. dairy males. spring born
    55e call out charge. scanning 3.20 plus vat. are these prices excessive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭stantheman1979


    The Mrs attempts it for free if I arrive home in a state after a night out. I'll ask her what price she'd charge u


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭degetme


    The Mrs attempts it for free if I arrive home in a state after a night out. I'll ask her what price she'd charge u

    Shur we might give her a go at it the next time! Can't be as dear as the vet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    degetme wrote: »
    vet charging 7e plus vat per animal for castration. 20 in bunch. dairy males. spring born
    55e call out charge. scanning 3.20 plus vat. are these prices excessive?

    Sounds a bit like a man pricing a job not to get it. And if he does get it he's going to get paid for it. That said compared to scanning it's not that high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭The man in red and black


    degetme wrote: »
    vet charging 7e plus vat per animal for castration. 20 in bunch. dairy males. spring born
    55e call out charge. scanning 3.20 plus vat. are these prices excessive?

    Consider how many you can get through in an hour in your system...then think about what your hourly rate for labour is for a mechanic at your garage...often times charging per animal works out a poor hourly rate...depends on the set up in a place. Like someone said there, running around after animals for an hour and then charging per animal doesn't make much of a days work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭degetme


    Consider how many you can get through in an hour in your system...then think about what your hourly rate for labour is for a mechanic at your garage...often times charging per animal works out a poor hourly rate...depends on the set up in a place. Like someone said there, running around after animals for an hour and then charging per animal doesn't make much of a days work.

    Excellent facilities. Took half an hour to do the twenty of them. Had them in pen waiting for vet. Held tail myself while vet castrating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    degetme wrote: »
    vet charging 7e plus vat per animal for castration. 20 in bunch. dairy males. spring born
    55e call out charge. scanning 3.20 plus vat. are these prices excessive?

    awhile since got scanning done till this year got done today 2e/head thought was very resonable, even knocked off 6e at paying, 48 cows-90e very happy with that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Never wrestle with pigs


    simx wrote: »
    awhile since got scanning done till this year got done today 2e/head thought was very resonable, even knocked off 6e at paying, 48 cows-90e very happy with that

    Was he/she fairly good with how long Incalf ect? That's very good price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭lenihankevin


    I have lost a few teeth and broken a jaw castrating weanlings before..kinda annoys me when I see lads on here complaining of price. While I understand dairy calves arent as risky we tend to only get the wild weanlings to castrate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭degetme


    I have lost a few teeth and broken a jaw castrating weanlings before..kinda annoys me when I see lads on here complaining of price. While I understand dairy calves arent as risky we tend to only get the wild weanlings to castrate.

    Six/seven month old dairy weanlings . These weren't dangerous. 140e plus vat for half an hour work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭lenihankevin


    degetme wrote:
    Six/seven month old dairy weanlings . These weren't dangerous. 159e for half an hour work.
    What would u charge if you had to do it for lads?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭The man in red and black


    degetme wrote: »
    Excellent facilities. Took half an hour to do the twenty of them. Had them in pen waiting for vet. Held tail myself while vet castrating.


    Didn't intend that to sound like I was commenting on your own facilities. I was speaking more in general terms. If can get through them that fast consider asking your vet for an hourly rate. Most people don't like hourly rates in Ireland as the tradition is to charge per animal for everything, dehorning, castrating, testing, scanning, hoof-paring etc. Outside of Ireland charging per 10 minute block is more common. If you're set up very well you might be better off on hourly rate. But most vets have traditionally done what the client wanted and that mostly is per animal. On some farms you could be waiting around a long time to get animals separated from cows to castrate them. Hourly rate there and lads go bananas. You can't please everyone unfortunately but you might see if you could get an hourly rate seeing as you are set up well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭degetme


    What would u charge if you had to do it for lads?

    3/4e a head I would have taught is enough for half an hour's work. There was no messing around wasting time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    degetme wrote: »
    Six/seven month old dairy weanlings . These weren't dangerous. 159e for half an hour work.
    Why didn't you do them yourself or get neighbour to do them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭degetme


    Why didn't you do them yourself or get neighbour to do them?

    Not long farming myself but ya I'm gonna have to start doing them myself. Will have to get a burdizzo and some one on the tail. Never shown how to do it but I've an idea from seeing vet. Might not be keeping bull calves at all in a year or two so could be a wasted expense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    degetme wrote: »
    Not long farming myself but ya I'm gonna have to start doing them myself. Will have to get a burdizzo and some one on the tail. Never shown how to do it but I've an idea from seeing vet. Might not be keeping bull calves at all in a year or two so could be a wasted expense.
    You want to get somebody to show you properly. If done wrong the rod can be crushed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭degetme


    Is 7e plus vat per head for castration dairy weanlings with good handling facilities and help and no time wasting the going rate? 55e call out charge added to bill. Half an hour's work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    degetme wrote: »
    Is 7e plus vat per head for castration dairy weanlings with good handling facilities and help and no time wasting the going rate? 55e call out charge added to bill. Half an hour's work

    I don't think it's a rob but I'd like the call out closer to 40 . I suppose it's up to yourself to haggle with the vet because the job will be different on most farms , bulls gone very strong , wild cattle , no proper facilities or help ,2 bulls to squeeze or 42 etc , etc .It could be the complete opposite on another farm so it's hard for a vet to give a competitive quote .
    I'd sooner let him do the job and ask what he wants after, if the vets decent they won't rob you either way and the job will be done right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    If done wrong the rod can be crushed.

    I don't understand this. Can you explain it to me?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    I don't understand this. Can you explain it to me?

    You can catch the pee pipe instead of the pipes going into the nuts I believe


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