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Door to door charities?
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burgermasters wrote: »No thanks should work for me as a door to door fundraiser people who are rude to me at the door can ruin my target for the full day because it makes me feel bad about myself. And as posted before i am just trying to provide for my young family and make a buck ye know? Some people need to realise this before running some poor guy from there door because you can directly cost them there job by this.
I am always polite to people who come to my door however I expect them to leave when I say "No thank you I am not interested" and not to stand there and continue on with their sales pitch, causing me to repeat my lack of interest multiple times.
Politeness works both ways
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Threads like this always elicit a mixture of rage and amusement from me. I especially love the warped logic of the person who'll give change to a homeless person (not saying anything wrong with that) but not to a charity. Give a homeless person a euro, it won't last them very long, even if you are doing it every week it will have a minimal effect. Give 52 euro to a homeless charity every year and they can use it, (admitedly along with other donations from other people) to create programmes to assist homeless people make the transition back to having a home, to lobby the government on policy that impacts on homelessness, to provide emergency services to homeless people etc etc...but sure we couldn't be giving to a charity because they 'waste' money employing people who've gone to college to acquire the skills to help people with serious problems. Those people should give their time for free, no matter that they also need to live, buy groceries, pay rent/mortgage, possibly student loans!
And please don't get me wrong, I don't think that people working for charities should have massive incomes but I think that this notion that charities can operate with no paid staff is daft. We want our charities to be accountable, to keep good records of where the money goes, who they've helped, maybe conduct some research into how we can do things better, help more people or nip issues in the bud so that more serious interventions are not needed further down the road and you can't do that sort of thing without a dedicated staff.
And as for the door-to-door guys, not my favourite either, no matter if they are from a charity or selling me something, but being rude to them is not necessary. A firm, no thanks I am not interested and closing the door, or walking on if talking about on-street guys is all that is needed. You get on with your day, they get on with theirs and their job. And like another person said, there are certain time limits e.g. no calling after 9 so if someone does call outside those hours, ring the charity to complain - they will appricate the feedback.
Rant over, thanks for reading
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My father does this and I've taken it up too when possible.
If one calls to the door and you also have tickets to sell for something, say that's great I'd love to support your cause and then come back with your tickets too and ask what they'd like to donate.
I cannot stress how funny it is to see the shock on their faces!
Best idea ever !!!
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Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »No means no. Not try harder.
It means no to the person saying no, but they have to sound like they mean it.
I've never had a problem with chuggers or people selling anything. I get it every day nearly in work and you just have to be firm and polite.0 -
I don't know the name of the organization - but someone came by my door collecting money for 'starving' kids in Africa.
I spent a solid 30 minutes asking him questions about the moral implications of charity and the unintended consequences. Poor guy. After a while, I think he wanted to leave, he just didn't know how to end the conversation.Him: '20,000 children starve to death EVERY DAY! We help by giving them food and...'
Me: 'And how does that work? The food, you just give it away'
Him: 'Umm, yeah, it helps feed the starving children. We also do...'
Me: 'So wait, I'm sorry. How does that help local farmers?'
Him: 'Farmers??? Umm, well anyone can get the food if they need it'
Me: 'Yes - but what about the farmers who grow crops and need to sell it in order to make a living. Doesn't giving away free food have a significant (and negative) impact on the farmers?
Him: 'I don't know really'
Me: 'Generally speaking, if you increase the supply of something, where does the price go?'
Him: *stare*
Me: 'Down. Prices go down'
Him: 'Surely feeding people is good, wouldn't you agree'
Me: 'No. What happens when you stop feeding them? You've just put all their farmers out of business. They're less self-sufficient than ever.'
After a bunch of chatting I finally said, 'Well, I might not agree with what your doing, but I really respect that you are out here trying to make a difference. Hang on a second, I'm sure I can spare something for you....'
Then I came back from my Kitchen with a few bags of flour and canned goods.
Apparently, starving people don't want food from my Kitchen 0 -
Threads like this always elicit a mixture of rage and amusement from me. I especially love the warped logic of the person who'll give change to a homeless person (not saying anything wrong with that) but not to a charity. Give a homeless person a euro, it won't last them very long, even if you are doing it every week it will have a minimal effect. Give 52 euro to a homeless charity every year and they can use it, (admitedly along with other donations from other people) to create programmes to assist homeless people make the transition back to having a home, to lobby the government on policy that impacts on homelessness, to provide emergency services to homeless people etc etc...but sure we couldn't be giving to a charity because they 'waste' money employing people who've gone to college to acquire the skills to help people with serious problems. Those people should give their time for free, no matter that they also need to live, buy groceries, pay rent/mortgage, possibly student loans!
And please don't get me wrong, I don't think that people working for charities should have massive incomes but I think that this notion that charities can operate with no paid staff is daft. We want our charities to be accountable, to keep good records of where the money goes, who they've helped, maybe conduct some research into how we can do things better, help more people or nip issues in the bud so that more serious interventions are not needed further down the road and you can't do that sort of thing without a dedicated staff.
And as for the door-to-door guys, not my favourite either, no matter if they are from a charity or selling me something, but being rude to them is not necessary. A firm, no thanks I am not interested and closing the door, or walking on if talking about on-street guys is all that is needed. You get on with your day, they get on with theirs and their job. And like another person said, there are certain time limits e.g. no calling after 9 so if someone does call outside those hours, ring the charity to complain - they will appricate the feedback.
Rant over, thanks for reading
I won't donate to any charity that employees someone who earns more than me. Certainly, if they cared as much as they should, they'd free up funds by taking a smaller salary.
Why should I help them out by giving them money if the people running the show have more money than me? That's like me standing in front of you with five large pizzas and asking you to give me a slice of yours.
If I give a euro to a homeless guy, I can be reasonably confident that I have a better standard of living than he does. Even if he's a scammer, he's still spending his days on the street, looking and smelling the part.
But that's just my personal take. I actually have a lot of respect for the people who donate to charities and their motivations.0 -
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