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Autumn/Winter FI Charts 2012/13

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭catch.23


    GFS 6z in FI

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,084 ✭✭✭Tom Cruises Left Nut


    If you want eye candy take a look at the CFS from the end of November. Will post some charts later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,390 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    I'm a novice but it seems to show day time temps hovering around 3c for all of December! No exceptional cold but well below average. Also there's much colder nearby but also warm is v close to the west....battleground snow?

    I would give this credence as I looked at CFS last December and it forecast the late Jan / early Feb euro cold perfectly - freezing everywhere south east of london but mild in Ireland.

    Of course I could be reading this all wrong....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭Musicman2000


    I'm a novice but it seems to show day time temps hovering around 3c for all of December! No exceptional cold but well below average. Also there's much colder nearby but also warm is v close to the west....battleground snow?

    I would give this credence as I looked at CFS last December and it forecast the late Jan / early Feb euro cold perfectly - freezing everywhere south east of london but mild in Ireland.

    Of course I could be reading this all wrong....

    The CFS Longrange model is handy for looking at trends over a few weeks etc, It could be show mild weather tomorrow so i would take it as a pinch of salt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭catch.23


    UKMO hinting at atlantic blocking towards the end of the run:

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    And did anyone see the end of the GEM: :eek:

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    edit: And one last chart, the JMA going for an atlantic high possibly joining with a scandi/siberian high:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    GFS 18Z goes for a similar outcome to JMA. Would be rude not to post this, 10 days out so usual warnings about pinches and salt apply.

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    It's also worth pointing out that as encouraging as this chart, it does see Ireland tap into a cold air source, with 850hpa temperatures not even gettin much below 0C. Still, a few tweaks and it could be epic! Also nice to see the date on the chart, a repeat 2 years on to the day? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,084 ✭✭✭Tom Cruises Left Nut


    Nice little FI on the GFS this morning

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,871 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    The beautiful land of Fantasy island :)

    T384 :pac: :P :cool:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,084 ✭✭✭Tom Cruises Left Nut


    If yas want a laugh, check the CFS this morning ha

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    The BOM looks perty at day 10!

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    Hopefully a couple of weeks down the line we will be taking charts like the one above seriously! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭delw


    BEASTERLY wrote: »
    The BOM looks perty at day 10

    Hopefully a couple of weeks down the line we will be taking charts like the one above seriously! :)
    Now thats a nice cold pool to feed off :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    Yes we would need every bit of that Greenie block and to sit there for a good week or more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    NOTE THIS IS STILL FI !

    Kinda want to Book next weekend off for the first possible low level snow event for around here this season! :D

    LOL at the lil -8 smack bang over me! :D ..
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    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭weatherfiend


    I love FI !!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    These are my FI cherry picks.

    BOM
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    GFS
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    Hopefully some more on the 12Z's. Pity this is the FI thread though. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Daniel2590


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    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    Interesting feature on the 18Z GFS run at +156hrs. Is that a late developing tropical cyclone in the middle of the Atlantic west of the Azores? It appears on the +126hrs chart and strengthens as it moves northwards. At +252 hrs it is south of Ireland with quite a strong easterly flow over the country.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    I see a rapidly deepening polar low in this chart.:D

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭geetar


    do all fantasy island charts purposely exaggerate in favour of cold weather? or are there so many that people just choose the best ones?

    anyone ive ever seen more then a week out seems to have an enormous low pressure over the centre of ireland and a high pressure up north, with about -12C.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    geetar wrote: »
    do all fantasy island charts purposely exaggerate in favour of cold weather? or are there so many that people just choose the best ones?

    Both in fact. Even in summer. :D

    The thread is here to stop the forecasting (ie realistic charts up to around a 5-7 day horizon) thread from degenerating into utter lunacy every time certain people discover snow pr0n at 14-20 days.

    Anything after 7 days is subject to so many variables that it is fantastical.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Both in fact. Even in summer. :D

    The thread is here to stop the forecasting (ie realistic charts up to around a 5-7 day horizon) thread from degenerating into utter lunacy every time certain people discover snow pr0n at 14-20 days.

    Anything after 7 days is subject to so many variables that it is fantastical.


    After 96 hours at the moment is pretty much FI , good post from NW showing this with the spreads.


    These charts may not be something too many are familiar with, but what they show is the sea level pressure mean from the ensembles as the usual contour lines and the colours show the spread, which is the difference between the highest and lowest ensemble run - ie a high spread means a large difference between highest and lowest so less certainty in terms of the outcome.

    To put a baseline in, here's the chart for 24 hours and as you can see the spread is virtually all blue and therefore there's good confidence in the pressure pattern (as you'd expect)
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    By 96 hours, there's a bit more colour coming in there, with an increasing amount of spread surrounding developments of the low pressure system to the northwest of the UK with 5-8hpa 'uncertainty' within parts of that.
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    Roll it forward to 144 hours and the differences increase with the mid-atlantic, southern tip of Greenland and the east coast of the USA all areas of low confidence, and incidentally all important locations in terms of upstream development for the UK
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    168 hours and that increases
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    And by 240 hours, we're talking 10-20hpa of potential swing (on just this run alone) across much of the Atlantic, the UK and the eastern seaboard.
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    So, what to draw from this? 96 hours is the point to watch in terms of upstream & beyond that there's too much uncertainty to draw any real conclusions at this point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭hawkwing


    The beast is starting up this morning,out in +276 land though:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Hmmm though the Pub run is good for us Snowbies ( :D ) ... dont get too excited over it , looks VERY different than any of the 12z models...

    But....

    FI is indeed noice.... Straight northerly at 240hrs... i just cant see that jet stream pattern coming to fruition...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Bit of FI candy , GFS had a couple too many for the pub run

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 DanRu


    Ohhh all the lovely colours. Where do I get me pretty charts like that. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Forget FI... look what NOrthern England are gettin right now!!!!


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    NOT FAIR!!! :'(:'(:'(


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    Bar a couple of hours through sunday /monday that GFS 18Z is a very cold run especially into the Far reaches of FI ,

    I dont expect its to materialize but nice to look at anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    ..... Screw england ...


    Heaven exists... in CALIFORNIA!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,084 ✭✭✭Tom Cruises Left Nut


    Ha ha, savage

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