English people and their dogs

Emeraldy Pebbles · 20-11-2012 08:19PM

Whispered wrote: »

It had nothing to do with the dogs welfare what so ever.

Keeping a dog inside isn't necessarily any better for its welfare.

woodoo · 20-11-2012 08:27PM

For the people who keep dogs indoors. How do they ensure the house doesn't stink of dog? I like the idea of keeping the dogs indoors but would be weary of the house stinking to the high heavens.

Emeraldy Pebbles · 20-11-2012 08:32PM

woodoo wrote: »

For the people who keep dogs indoors. How do they ensure the house doesn't stink of dog? I like the idea of keeping the dogs indoors but would be weary of the house stinking to the high heavens.

+1

And for people who say that not all dogs smell. I've never met one that doesn't.

poeticseraphim · 20-11-2012 08:32PM

Stinicker wrote: »

Quoting Ganhi says more about a person tbh. As for my dog, I had her bred and sold the pups for €100 each back in the day. She had another unwanted litter of mongrels by the neighbours dog also which the vet put to sleep humanely.

Dogs do belong outside and it was far better to keep the dog chained than having her hit by car and killed, she survived one whack from a car and remained chained after that, she was walking around in circles for a few days afterwards but got out of it. She was never left roam and taken good care of, vaccinated and licensed.

How dare you judge my care of a pet just because I didn't allow it into the house. I did alot better job than most who keep dogs when I had her and her few pups.

Having dogs or cats indoors is horrible as they are all unclean. I got called to a house last year to do a job there and I refused to do it on three grounds. How dare you judge my care of a pet just because I didn't allow it into the house. I did alot better job than most who keep dogs when I had her and her few pups.
Basically if you can't keep animals outside where they belong then you shouldn't have them.

You were not a responsible owner.

1. You allowed an unwanted pregnancy may i ask why she was unneutered?.And why did you not get her a mismating injectionafter? It would have prevented her having to go through the pregnancy.and the birth ..cheaper too!..And even later you could have gone for a pregnancy termination...it woud have saved you and her both a lot of upset..Unwanted pregnancy this happens??..this happens i give you that but there are things you can do how did it happen were you leaving her unattended? Could not not have given the pups away or to the animal shelter? Why let a pregnancy go full term in that case? I hope you neutered her.

2. If you do not have an enclosed garden with adequate space you should not get a dog.

Dogs do belong outside and it was far better to keep the dog chained than having her hit by car and killed, she survived one whack from a car and remained chained after that, she was walking around in circles for a few days afterwards but got out of it.

YEAH...EEEh..this is where i start to think you are not right ....

How dare you judge my care of a pet just because I didn't allow it into the house. I did alot better job than most who keep dogs when I had her and her few pups.

eh...i dunno though

How dare you judge my care of a pet just because I didn't allow it into the house. I did alot better job than most who keep dogs when I had her and her few pups.

Agreed numerous dogs need specialist care ...possibly with separate inclosures...or else do not have to many

But you need a garden for dogs....unless they are teeny

We have a dog ..mini dachsund....tiny.....he is quiet and clean....he goes out when he wants to and in when he wants...he is not allowed everywhere ..he is cleaned everytime he comes in from the garden...

Tisserand · 20-11-2012 08:44PM

I got a present of a maltese dog last summer. I had just gone through a bad patch of depression and getting the dog was the best thing ever happened to me. I live alone and this dog is just brilliant company. He is inside all the time as there would be no point in having him if he was outside. Some of my family are horrified that he is kept indoors and go on about hygiene etc. but I tell them to bear in mind my mental health is more important than hygiene just at the moment and if they have an issue then they don't have to come into the house. I think people should try to be more open minded as to the reasons people keep pets, and have them inside and not inside.

poeticseraphim · 20-11-2012 08:49PM

Tisserand wrote: »

I got a present of a maltese dog last summer. I had just gone through a bad patch of depression and getting the dog was the best thing ever happened to me. I live alone and this dog is just brilliant company. He is inside all the time as there would be no point in having him if he was outside. Some of my family are horrified that he is kept indoors and go on about hygiene etc. but I tell them to bear in mind my mental health is more important than hygiene just at the moment and if they have an issue then they don't have to come into the house. I think people should try to be more open minded as to the reasons people keep pets, and have them inside and not inside.

:)HUGS

Lovely story...:)

SCOOP 64 · 20-11-2012 08:49PM

Never understood people who get dogs and leave them in a cage out side 24/7!

woodoo · 20-11-2012 08:55PM

Tisserand wrote: »

I got a present of a maltese dog last summer. I had just gone through a bad patch of depression and getting the dog was the best thing ever happened to me. I live alone and this dog is just brilliant company. He is inside all the time as there would be no point in having him if he was outside. Some of my family are horrified that he is kept indoors and go on about hygiene etc. but I tell them to bear in mind my mental health is more important than hygiene just at the moment and if they have an issue then they don't have to come into the house. I think people should try to be more open minded as to the reasons people keep pets, and have them inside and not inside.

Does he smell? Do you wash him often.

I only ask because i would like to get a dog and would want to keep the dog indoors.

Da Shins Kelly · 20-11-2012 09:00PM

My Morrissey is always in the house, and he's a fairly big dog. I couldn't leave him outside. He's my pet and I like having him with me. He's house trained (puts his head in my lap and nuzzles at me or paces a lot when he wants to get out), he makes me feel safe if I'm home alone and he's just part of our family. I'd never put him outside.

So it's not solely "English people" who do that. Plenty of people do. In fact, I'm not sure I know anyone who leaves their dog outside.

As for the smell - wash your dog regularly, or if you really can't deal with the smell of a dog, don't get one.

Tisserand · 20-11-2012 09:03PM

woodoo wrote: »

Does he smell? Do you wash him often.

I only ask because i would like to get a dog and would want to keep the dog indoors.

No he doesn't smell at all and I trained him to do his business outside. He will do it on a newspaper which I leave inside the backdoor if he needs to 'go' when I am out. He has snow white hair and I walk him every day and because he is very low to the ground his little feet and underbelly can get dirty and wet so I just give him a little wash 'underneath' afterwards and give him a full bath once a week. I would recommend a maltese dog for indoors, my little guy is so low maintenance and undemanding and I love him to bits. Never thought I would see the day I would cherish the company of an animal so much but this little guy is my reason for living just now!!

Sittingpretty · 20-11-2012 09:04PM

Stinicker wrote: »

Quoting Ganhi says more about a person tbh. As for my dog, I had her bred and sold the pups for €100 each back in the day. She had another unwanted litter of mongrels by the neighbours dog also which the vet put to sleep humanely.

Dogs do belong outside and it was far better to keep the dog chained than having her hit by car and killed, she survived one whack from a car and remained chained after that, she was walking around in circles for a few days afterwards but got out of it. She was never left roam and taken good care of, vaccinated and licensed.

How dare you judge my care of a pet just because I didn't allow it into the house. I did alot better job than most who keep dogs when I had her and her few pups.

Having dogs or cats indoors is horrible as they are all unclean. I got called to a house last year to do a job there and I refused to do it on three grounds. The house was unclean due to animal molting, it was not possible to concentrate on what I was doing with half a dozen dogs barking and one of the dogs was vicious and watching to bite.

Basically if you can't keep animals outside where they belong then you shouldn't have them.

I can only hope you didn't get another dog. Of course you are entitled to your opinion but what you describe is one hell of a miserable existance for any dog.

Da Shins Kelly · 20-11-2012 09:06PM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

If you think things are bad in the UK with indoor dogs, try Spain.

The Spanish have no problems bring large dogs into multi story apartment blocks. I stayed in one 12 story block in Barcelona for a few months that had everything from Alsations, Doberman, Labrador and bull terriers. Every time an ambulance or cop car would pass you could hear them all go mental. People generally looked after them well by walking them in the evenings.

There are dogs everywhere here. Not many strays, I've noticed, but every other person has a dog and they seem to bring them everywhere with them.

Pumpkinseeds · 20-11-2012 09:11PM

When we were teenagers my parents adopted a collie cross. He was a big chap and was walked 3 times a day, long walks as he needed a good run to burn off the excess energy. He was an indoor dog with access to an enclosed back garden whenever he wanted it. I'd say he was washed once a week, more often when he indulged his passion for rolling in cow dung.

Whatever peoples opinions of 'the English' keeping dogs indoors, you will rarely find the English allowing dogs to roam. I don't believe in locking dogs outdoors. My neighbours aquired 2 dogs about a month ago. I have yet to see them being walked. They spend most of their time in the back garden, ignored and barking. It's not the dogs fault, its the owners. Dogs need interaction, if people aren't going to invest time and love in their dogs, they should really just get a goldfish or something else that doesn't require affection.

garancafan · 20-11-2012 09:15PM

parc wrote: »

(also when no one was around I'd let him **** on the couch with me but I was 8 or so, my parents wouldn't' do that)

My parents wouldn't **** on the couch either in those circumstances.

corktina · 20-11-2012 09:27PM

i'm English, have 4 dogs and they live outside.... less of the Stereotyping please.

FlyingIrishMan · 20-11-2012 09:29PM

Now for the real question, dogs in the bed with you at night?

LordSutch · 20-11-2012 09:35PM

I think its more like a Rural/City life style divide. Rural people, farmers etc will leave their dogs outside, while many city dwellers will let their dogs sleep indoors. Being English or Irish has nothing at all to do with it . . .

meoklmrk91 · 20-11-2012 09:42PM

woodoo wrote: »

For the people who keep dogs indoors. How do they ensure the house doesn't stink of dog? I like the idea of keeping the dogs indoors but would be weary of the house stinking to the high heavens.

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

+1

And for people who say that not all dogs smell. I've never met one that doesn't.

My dog hasn't had a bath for almost a year and he is only starting to smell recently due to the mud and rain, this is due to the fact that he gets good quality food, really makes a massive difference, the smell of wet dog is fowl but even when he is wet it is no where near the smell of other dogs who are on poorer quality diets.

Honestly there is no smell in the house, I am gone for most of the day so I am sure that I would smell it when I walked in the door. He will be having a bath soon and he will be back to normal. If you are a clean person then there is no reason why your house should smell.

woodoo · 20-11-2012 09:54PM

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

My dog hasn't had a bath for almost a year and he is only starting to smell recently due to the mud and rain, this is due to the fact that he gets good quality food, really makes a massive difference, the smell of wet dog is fowl but even when he is wet it is no where near the smell of other dogs who are on poorer quality diets.

Honestly there is no smell in the house, I am gone for most of the day so I am sure that I would smell it when I walked in the door. He will be having a bath soon and he will be back to normal. If you are a clean person then there is no reason why your house should smell.

What type of dog have you

meoklmrk91 · 20-11-2012 10:05PM

woodoo wrote: »

What type of dog have you

Boxer, why?

woodoo · 20-11-2012 11:12PM

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Boxer, why?

I was wondering if it was long haired or not

noodler · 20-11-2012 11:19PM

Got a Staff/Boxer. Quit big but short hairs.

Little choice but to keep it outside during the day (although, well insulated shed and all that).

When we are in - we always keep it in the house.

I consider us a little bit whipped to be honest!

Ann22 · 21-11-2012 12:02AM

My hubbie used to live in England, says they are a real nation of dog lovers compared to here. We volunteer with a local dog rescue group that has many contacts in the uk who take hundreds of dogs from us and home a great deal of them.

We have two much loved JRTs, kept indoors, washed every few weeks 'cos they sleep with us. They smell delicious and I could just kiss their little bodies all over:)....I feel that a dog should be kept indoors unless they're happy outside in a spacious enclosed garden, have abundant fur and have someone to play with regularly (and kept indoors at night). No way should they be chained up like a previous poster said (I'm still nauseous after reading his comments...totally and utterly disgusting, I didn't even want to quote the posts:mad:.

Dogs just love their owners and live to spend time with them. I can't understand why anyone would buy a dog then complain about smells and hairs and hassle. Explains how so many little angels end up lost and alone in pounds. Don't even start me on this subject:mad::mad::mad:

woodoo · 21-11-2012 12:16AM

Ann22 wrote: »

I can't understand why anyone would buy a dog then complain about smells and hairs and hassle. Explains how so many little angels end up lost and alone in pounds. Don't even start me on this subject:mad::mad::mad:

I think that is a fair question for someone to ask who doesn't currently have a dog. I have been in a house where a golden retriever is kept and the strong smell is awful. How to avoid or remedy that is a valid question.

21-11-2012 12:21AM

What? Our dog is HUGE! And he is kept inside all the time. I know way more people that have dogs kept indoors.

barbiegirl · 21-11-2012 12:34AM

woodoo wrote: »

I think that is a fair question for someone to ask who doesn't currently have a dog. I have been in a house where a golden retriever is kept and the strong smell is awful. How to avoid or remedy that is a valid question.

It's all to do with food. If you feed good quality food your dog won't smell. Ours are washed when they are dirty as in after a mucky walk up the mountains never because of smells. Both ours are long haired, have access to a fully enclosed back garden with kennels and are allowed more or less free run of the house. Our house is clean, not smelly and the hairs can be dealt with easily. I wouldn't be without our two and they insist on being around us all the time. They are happiest in our company. :-)

meoklmrk91 · 21-11-2012 12:38AM

Ann22 wrote: »

My hubbie used to live in England, says they are a real nation of dog lovers compared to here. We volunteer with a local dog rescue group that has many contacts in the uk who take hundreds of dogs from us and home a great deal of them.

We have two much loved JRTs, kept indoors, washed every few weeks 'cos they sleep with us. They smell delicious and I could just kiss their little bodies all over:)....I feel that a dog should be kept indoors unless they're happy outside in a spacious enclosed garden, have abundant fur and have someone to play with regularly (and kept indoors at night). No way should they be chained up like a previous poster said (I'm still nauseous after reading his comments...totally and utterly disgusting, I didn't even want to quote the posts:mad:.

Dogs just love their owners and live to spend time with them. I can't understand why anyone would buy a dog then complain about smells and hairs and hassle. Explains how so many little angels end up lost and alone in pounds. Don't even start me on this subject:mad::mad::mad:

Your husband is dead right about the English, pretty much all of the UK actually, there is a real pet culture there and they really believe in looking after their animals too. For instance in Ireland in 2011, we put 5,586 dogs to sleep, Scotland which is of a similar size to use with regards to population out 207 dogs to sleep. There is no excuse, things are getting better, in 2002 we out over 22,000 dogs to sleep, so we are getting better, but this would not have happened had it not been for the work of the great Irish charities, most of which are filled with exceptional, hard working people, and the help of the British charities who take thousands of dogs from us each year and re-home them and the wonderful dogs trust who started the neutering scheme.

Ann22 · 21-11-2012 12:41AM

woodoo wrote: »

I think that is a fair question for someone to ask who doesn't currently have a dog. I have been in a house where a golden retriever is kept and the strong smell is awful. How to avoid or remedy that is a valid question.

Mine have short fur and are really easy to keep. I even used baby wipes on their bums at times...especially before they come to bed. At the moment one of them is beside me, so sweet and soft and smelling like Johnson's baby shampoo:o.

If you had a dog and his natural smell bothered you, a regular wash would make all the difference. A bit of work though with a retriever so maybe it'd be better to have a shorthaired breed! There are also many fantastic deodorising and conditioning sprays available to tide you over between washes.

Ann22 · 21-11-2012 12:44AM

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Your husband is dead right about the English, pretty much all of the UK actually, there is a real pet culture there and they really believe in looking after their animals too. For instance in Ireland in 2011, we put 5,586 dogs to sleep, Scotland which is of a similar size to use with regards to population out 207 dogs to sleep. There is no excuse, things are getting better, in 2002 we out over 22,000 dogs to sleep, so we are getting better, but this would not have happened had it not been for the work of the great Irish charities, most of which are filled with exceptional, hard working people, and the help of the British charities who take thousands of dogs from us each year and re-home them and the wonderful dogs trust who started the neutering scheme.

Well said:)

Vizzy · 21-11-2012 12:58AM

Ann22 wrote: »

Well said:)

Must say that this is highly hypocritical.
One the one hand you are advocating keeping the dogs indoors and wipe their little bums with baby wipes before you bring to bed with you and then you go on to compliment a post by meokmrk91 which advocates butchering dogs by neutering them.
I'm almost physically sick here.
Shame on you.

English people and their dogs

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