English people and their dogs

parc · 20-11-2012 12:54PM #1

In Ireland, people who have middle to sizable dogs keep them outside. You should have a nice bit of shelter and warm bedding for him.

However in England, people keep theirs inside. For example, my flatmate. He has a retriever and he keeps it indoors. It's basically kind of put me off dogs in favour of cats. This dog (and this is a reflection on the owner) pisses at least once a week in the house, walks in his **** outside in the back yard (which should have been cleaned up anyway).

Right now the owner has him outside in the back yard and the dog is whining because he can't get into the house...unreal.

His missus has a cat and it never pisses, avoids walking in the ****. This dog should actually be off living on a farm, not in a city. Hopefully the guy sees sense and gets rid (though he's had him for a while). He's been talking about it lately because the dog is unmanageable

Yeah, so English people keeping their dogs in their own house, regardless of the size...what's up with that?

summerskin · 20-11-2012 12:55PM

and those little bags of peanuts they give you on planes? what's up with that??

Melion · 20-11-2012 12:56PM

What about breeds like Boxers who, because of their short hair, cannot be kept outside?

I wouldnt dream of leaving my staffie outside overnight.

Intensive Care Bear · 20-11-2012 12:57PM

Lots of Irish people keep their dogs inside too, that guy is just a bad owner.

Whispered · 20-11-2012 12:58PM

A lot of Irish people bring their dogs inside too, it's not solely an English thing. I have 2 mid - large dogs and they live inside. I wouldn't have it any other way. I can't speak for "English people" and why they have their dogs inside but mine are here because we love them, they are a part of our family, they help me feel safe when in the house alone, they're entertaining and they deserve to stretch out in front of the fire.

People getting dogs and leaving them outside, whether with warm bedding or not, is one of the main causes of barking dogs, ill behaved dogs and destructive dogs.

squod · 20-11-2012 12:58PM

parc wrote: »

However in England, people keep theirs inside.

Few English people keep their hamsters ''inside'' too

Googles *hamster up bum*

darrcow · 20-11-2012 01:00PM

op are you a racist by any chance. you need to get over the we hate the english thing.

im english:D

parc · 20-11-2012 01:02PM

1210m5g wrote: »

Lots of Irish people keep their dogs inside too, that guy is just a bad owner.

Hmm I'm sure they do but the general consensus is "Irish people - dogs ouside and English people will practically let them in their own bed"

And that's coming from English people btw. I'm mostly talking about the larger breeds here. Not terriers or staffies.

In bold: The guy does try, spends **** loads on him but at the end of it all, the dog isn't even house trained

meoklmrk91 · 20-11-2012 01:04PM

I have never understood the concept of indoor and outdoor dogs, apparently small dogs are indoor dogs and big dogs are outdoor dogs, but they are all dogs

I'm Irish, my dog has never spent a night outside as long as I have had him and I wouldn't have it any other way. What's the point if having a dog if you are just going to leave it outside all the time.

Míshásta · 20-11-2012 01:05PM

What's the safest way to cross a busy road in England?

Take your dog with you - an Englishman would never hurt a dog.

Alright, not very funny, but I thought I'd share it with ye anyway.

The custom of keeping pets in the house in Ireland is only a recent development afaik.

An unhygienic practice, no matter how well trained the pet is.

A well insulated shed is fine for pets.

But shur as we always copy the English .............

dodderangler · 20-11-2012 01:06PM

My Akita is in house all the time
I'm Irish
I'd rather the dog inside

Whispered · 20-11-2012 01:07PM

Míshásta wrote: »

But shur as we always copy the English .............

Absolutely, shur when I got my dog I googled what the English do and decided that I'd allow him inside. It had nothing to do with the dogs welfare what so ever.

parc · 20-11-2012 01:07PM

Saying that I have another friend who's family keeps their dogs inside. They're very well trained, would never go to the toilet inside etc.

That fine but it's just the hairs that get me. All over the shop. When I was young we had a dog, I used to bring him inside at night, would hate the idea of him being out there alone. But he stayed in a room next to the kitchen and was grand. (also when no one was around I'd let him **** on the couch with me but I was 8 or so, my parents wouldn't' do that)

Porkchop McGee · 20-11-2012 01:09PM

The English are always eating crisps, too. What's up with that. They love crisps, they do.

There's nothing wrong with keeping a dog inside provided you're not a scum lord and clean up after it, same with any other domestic pet. A bit of training with dogs goes a long way too.

kfallon · 20-11-2012 01:09PM

I preferred this thread when you posted it in The Soccer Forum :pac:

jonnyfingers · 20-11-2012 01:10PM

FENTON!

parc · 20-11-2012 01:10PM

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

I have never understood the concept of indoor and outdoor dogs, apparently small dogs are indoor dogs and big dogs are outdoor dogs, but they are all dogs I'm Irish, my dog has never spent a night outside as long as I have had him and I wouldn't have it any other way. What's the point if having a dog if you are just going to leave it outside all the time.

Well the big dogs like collies, retrievers etc. are generally more active than the small ones (sausage dogs and the like) so they are classed as outside dogs...dogs you should have in the country and not in the city. There's my housemates problem then..we live in a city.

If you keep an collie or retriever inside they'll go nuts. They want to be out running around sniffing stuff. The guys dog literally has a fit when he sees his lead coming out for the walk

looksee · 20-11-2012 01:11PM

parc wrote: »

In Ireland, people who have middle to sizable dogs keep them outside. You should have a nice bit of shelter and warm bedding for him.

However in England, people keep theirs inside. For example, my flatmate. He has a retriever and he keeps it indoors. It's basically kind of put me off dogs in favour of cats. This dog (and this is a reflection on the owner) pisses at least once a week in the house, walks in his **** outside in the back yard (which should have been cleaned up anyway).

Right now the owner has him outside in the back yard and the dog is whining because he can't get into the house...unreal.

Possibly a bit contradictory, no?

I think your survey sample is probably a bit small.

kneemos · 20-11-2012 01:13PM

Brings the we're better than the British to a higher level

parc · 20-11-2012 01:13PM

Míshásta wrote: »

What's the safest way to cross a busy road in England?

Take your dog with you - an Englishman would never hurt a dog.

Alright, not very funny, but I thought I'd share it with ye anyway.

The custom of keeping pets in the house in Ireland is only a recent development afaik.

An unhygienic practice, no matter how well trained the pet is.

A well insulated shed is fine for pets.

But shur as we always copy the English .............

Yep agree with this. Although I don't mind the smaller dogs being in the house as long as they're well trained and have their own space. But it's nuts keeping the bigger ones.

Calibos · 20-11-2012 01:14PM

I think you'll find its not an English/Irish divide on where the dogs sleep but a Rural/Urban divide.

Chuck Stone · 20-11-2012 01:14PM

Only mad Englishmen and Dogs... something something.

BraziliaNZ · 20-11-2012 01:14PM

I love dogs. Over here you can bring your dog into most pubs, so often there are dogs running around pubs, which is great for dog lovers. I've never seen that in Ireland, maybe once or twice in rural Ireland, which is a shame.

parc · 20-11-2012 01:15PM

looksee wrote: »

Possibly a bit contradictory, no?

I think your survey sample is probably a bit small.

Well the dog does go into the back yard sometimes. 90% of the time he's indoors

parc · 20-11-2012 01:16PM

Calibos wrote: »

I think you'll find its not an English/Irish divide on where the dogs sleep but a Rural/Urban divide.

Explain

If you're saying that the rural folk keep their dogs outside well then no, the rural folk in england are the prime suspects for it. They'll keep their (big) dogs indoors, their dog will go everywhere with them, their jeeps will be covered in dog hairs etc etc.

LordSutch · 20-11-2012 01:16PM

My Irish brother in law has a very large labrador which sleeps in the kitchen.

Yes of course English people do love their dogs, but this whole thing about only 'English' people allowing their dogs to sleep inside is a red herring.

Some English people do some don't, same goes for Irish people.

seamus · 20-11-2012 01:21PM

I don't understand why people get dogs and then leave them outside. Why did you get a dog if you've no interest in spending time with him?

kfallon · 20-11-2012 01:21PM

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

I love dogs. Over here you can bring your dog into most pubs, so often there are dogs running around pubs, which is great for dog lovers. I've never seen that in Ireland, maybe once or twice in rural Ireland, which is a shame.

I've met a few dogs in pubs tbh

meoklmrk91 · 20-11-2012 01:22PM

parc wrote: »

Well the big dogs like collies, retrievers etc. are generally more active than the small ones (sausage dogs and the like) so they are classed as outside dogs...dogs you should have in the country and not in the city. There's my housemates problem then..we live in a city.

If you keep an collie or retriever inside they'll go nuts. They want to be out running around sniffing stuff. The guys dog literally has a fit when he sees his lead coming out for the walk

No not generally in fairness, my dog is a boxer and he lives inside with us, sure he goes mad when he sees the lead but what dog doesn't, he is also a lazy so and so and refuses to get up out of bed in the morning and doesn't like to go outside if it's any bit cold or raining even if he has been in for ages and must really have to go to the toilet.

Greyhounds are big dogs but are the biggest couch potatoes going, a jack Russell is tiny but will be going just as long as a collie or a retriever. Really they are all just dogs, size doesn't come into it, I personally don't see the pointin having an outdoor dog, for what so you can pat his head on the way to the car.

stevenmu · 20-11-2012 01:24PM

Calibos wrote: »

I think you'll find its not an English/Irish divide on where the dogs sleep but a Rural/Urban divide.

+1. If you're going to keep a dog outside, they need to have a things to keep them busy, a bit of space to run around and plenty of things to explore and sniff. A big rural garden will give a dog plenty of things to keep them busy, but it just seems a bit mean to keep a dog out on their own in a crappy little walled in (sub)urban garden. Much better to keep them in the house where they at least have some company and activity.

barbiegirl · 20-11-2012 01:32PM

I've two inside dogs. One a retriever cross and one a jack Russell cross. They are clean, they keep me company, I spend a lot of time training them and they make us happy. In fairness they are better behaved and mannered than some people. So long as a dog is properly exercised every day then in general they're happy to sleep and mouch. Inside or outside they need their exercise. Why have a dog if you just ignore it and spend no time with it? The hairs are a small price and there is this great invention called a Hoover that works really well sorting that out :-).

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