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How can I work out if an open gas fire can be converted to fuel burning

  • 19-11-2012 10:33PM
    #1
    Monsclara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭


    Hi

    I have an open fireplaces downstairs which has a gas connection and grate. Does anyone know how I can work out if this could be converted to a normal open fireplace for log and coal burning?

    Many thanks
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  • #2
    Billy Bunting
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    Open gas fire ?? Make and Model of fire ???


    Or picture ?


  • #3
    jimjimt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭jimjimt


    If you have an existing gas fire installed all will have to be removed.

    Gas fire, gas pipe work disconnected remove in full and made save all to be removed and made save. Call a local RGI installer to make all good and save.

    If you installed a flexi flue liner for a gas fire this would not be suitable for a solid fuel fire and would have to be replaced or removed.


  • #4
    corkgsxr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    And if you don't have a fireback you'll need one.

    Needs a pict really to say much


  • #5
    corkgsxr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    Hold on, do ya not have a gas fire, just a fireplace with a gas connection next to the hearth?


  • #6
    Monsclara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭Monsclara


    It,s a grate with a gas connection. Do these pics help?


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  • #7
    jimjimt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭jimjimt


    You should not even use it has a gas fire and it should be condemned.

    All will have to be remove along with installing a new fire back.

    Gas fire, gas pipe work disconnected remove in full and made save all to be removed and made save. Call a local RGI installer to make all good and save.

    If you installed a flexi flue liner for a gas fire this would not be suitable for a solid fuel fire and would have to be replaced or removed.


  • #8
    Monsclara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭Monsclara


    jimjimt wrote: »
    You should not even use it has a gas fire and it should be condemned.

    All will have to be remove along with installing a new fire back.

    Gas fire, gas pipe work disconnected remove in full and made save all to be removed and made save. Call a local RGI installer to make all good and save.

    If you installed a flexi flue liner for a gas fire this would not be suitable for a solid fuel fire and would have to be replaced or removed.

    Well as it happens I never use it as I believe they are very inefficient. But as a matter of interest, why should it be condemned? It's been like this since I bought the house a number of years ago.


  • #9
    corkgsxr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    Ya that's in a awful state alright.


  • #10
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Monsclara wrote: »
    Well as it happens I never use it as I believe they are very inefficient. But as a matter of interest, why should it be condemned? It's been like this since I bought the house a number of years ago.

    That fire could produce carbon monoxide and kill you;)


  • #11
    Billy Bunting
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    Any RGI coming across that fire these days wouldnt take the chance and would chop it off.

    I hope you have plenty of perminent ventilation in the room if you are tempted to use it.


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  • #12
    DoneDL
    Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭DoneDL


    RGII to disconnect and cap that fire, do not use it. Chimney sweep to inspect the chimney for obstruction.


  • #13
    corkgsxr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    DoneDL wrote: »
    RGII to disconnect and cap that fire, do not use it. Chimney sweep to inspect the chimney for obstruction.

    The rgii can do a smoke test


  • #14
    Billy Bunting
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    corkgsxr wrote: »
    The rgii can do a smoke test

    I wouldnt trust a smoke/spillage test on it, seen them fine today shi5e tomorrow.


  • #15
    jimjimt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭jimjimt


    Well as it happens I never use it as I believe they are very inefficient. But as a matter of interest, why should it be condemned? It's been like this since I bought the house a number of years ago.

    Even if the coals were placed incorrectly. It would be enough to produce more carbon monoxide that the fire should produce.

    Also the fire has not been clean in years which would suggest that it never had been service. Possibly the chimney has never been cleaned or inspected either. The fire back looks cracked.

    Is their any permeant ventilation in the room ?

    Any ways if you like it out you need a RGII installer to make it all safe. If you want to use a gas fire again you will need a RGII installer to investigate and recommend what has to be done.

    Either outcome you will need a good RGII installer.


  • #16
    Monsclara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭Monsclara


    Thanks all. Had no idea it was dangerous. Will contact RGII and find local installer


  • #17
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    corkgsxr wrote: »

    The rgii can do a smoke test
    I asked RGII before to do a smoke test and they told me to f*%# off and do it myself!!!


  • #18
    corkgsxr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    shane0007 wrote: »
    I asked RGII before to do a smoke test and they told me to f*%# off and do it myself!!!

    i mean the rgii installer/repair guy :)


  • #19
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    corkgsxr wrote: »

    i mean the rgii installer/repair guy :)
    I know, it was a bit of humour!


  • #20
    corkgsxr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    shane0007 wrote: »
    I know, it was a bit of humour!

    I smiled


  • #21
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    corkgsxr wrote: »

    I smiled
    I know you did. I feel your love....


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  • #22
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    shane0007 wrote: »
    I know you did. I feel your love....

    Male bonding:D, you can't beat it, ahhh....


  • #23
    corkgsxr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,388 ✭✭✭corkgsxr


    gary71 wrote: »
    Male bonding:D, you can't beat it, ahhh....

    I feel all warm and happy now


  • #24
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    gary71 wrote: »
    Male bonding:D, you can't beat it, ahhh....

    I am trying, Gary, and I know with your help I can get there....


  • #25
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    shane0007 wrote: »
    I am trying, Gary, and I know with your help I can get there....

    I feel my work is done:cool:, I think your infraction days are behind you, just remember all your fellow RGI's are just friends you haven't met yet ;)


  • #26
    Billy Bunting
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭Billy Bunting


    gary71 wrote: »
    just remember all your fellow RGI's are just friends you haven't met yet ;)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ljNnUflLmk&feature=related


  • #27
    shane0007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,677 ✭✭✭shane0007


    gary71 wrote: »
    I think your infraction days are behind you

    Oh how I reminisce over those wild days!!! If only I could go back in time, even for just one day...


  • #28
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Billy Bunting wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ljNnUflLmk&feature=related

    :pac::pac:

    Thank you Billy, i really could of done with that yesterday when a super sized can of WD40 exploded over me in appreciation of dropping a hydraulic block on it, in front of a customer who had been trying to understand why I was blaming the installer for the return pipe that popped out of the boiler flooding the garage:mad: which in turn blew the fuse board just as I packed the tools away:((I never said I was good)


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