Garda accused of rape in station.

HeyThereDeliah · 19-11-2012 01:47AM #1

This is a Garda using his power to allegedly abuse and rape a vulnerable teenager who went to him for help. I hope he is kicked from the force, he does not deserve to keep his job.

http://www.herald.ie/news/garda-accused-of-rape-in-station-3295669.html

I edited to put in Allegedly.

Where To · 19-11-2012 01:49AM

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

This is a Garda using his power to abuse and rape a vulnerable teenager who went to him for help. I hope he is kicked from the force, he does not deserve to keep his job.

http://www.herald.ie/news/garda-accused-of-rape-in-station-3295669.html

If he is guilty I hope you mean.

questionmark? · 19-11-2012 01:49AM

Hold on a sec OP the important word in that article is "allegedly"

Zaph · 19-11-2012 01:50AM

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

I hope he is kicked from the force, he does not deserve to keep his job.

Before this turns into a complete trainwreck, please remember that in this country there is the presumption of innocence unless proven guilty.

Witcher · 19-11-2012 01:50AM

Accused

You've clearly decided upon his guilt.

fasttalkerchat · 19-11-2012 01:51AM

Happened in 2010 but that article was written Friday... why hasn't it been seen before?

flutterflye · 19-11-2012 01:51AM

Oh my god - and the girl was seeking to report a sexual assault, and the prick of a guard that she went to to report it went and allegedly raped her :eek:
There are actually no words

kirving · 19-11-2012 01:52AM

Is the OP libellous from Boards.ie's perspective? He's innocent until proven guilty, and the OP claims otherwise.

fasttalkerchat · 19-11-2012 01:52AM

flutterflye wrote: »

Oh my god - and the girl was seeking to report a sexual assault, and the prick of a guard that she went to to report it went and raped her :eek:
There are actually no words

Easy... hasn't been found guilty! Just accused.

Zaph · 19-11-2012 01:52AM

flutterflye wrote: »

Oh my god - and the girl was seeking to report a sexual assault, and the prick of a guard that she went to to report it went and raped her :eek:
There are actually no words

Yes there are. The word is allegedly.

HeyThereDeliah · 19-11-2012 01:53AM

Where To wrote: »

If he is guilty I hope you mean.

"The garda has been suspended from duty, but is still on full pay. He has been ordered not to have contact with his alleged victim. Sources say that, even if the DPP decides not to press charges in the case, the garda will “most likely” be sacked from the force"

If he is guilty yes but can't see him keeping the job.

fasttalkerchat · 19-11-2012 01:56AM

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

"The garda has been suspended from duty, but is still on full pay. He has been ordered not to have contact with his alleged victim. Sources say that, even if the DPP decides not to press charges in the case, the garda will “most likely” be sacked from the force"

If he is guilty yes but can't see him keeping the job.

That line about losing his job regardless of the criminal case is strong. Does this mean he has admitted to consensual sex?

HeyThereDeliah · 19-11-2012 02:00AM

Zaph wrote: »

Before this turns into a complete trainwreck, please remember that in this country there is the presumption of innocence unless proven guilty.

I edited, should have put in allegedly in the beginning. I know innocent until proven guilty.

Mickey H · 19-11-2012 02:01AM

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

That line about losing his job regardless of the criminal case is strong. Does this mean he has admitted to consensual sex?

I doubt it tbh.

flutterflye · 19-11-2012 02:16AM

Zaph wrote: »

Yes there are. The word is allegedly.

There - edited :cool:

meoklmrk91 · 19-11-2012 02:26AM

Certainly wouldn't surprise me as people who are sexually abusive often put themselves in positions of power in order to put themselves above the law, gardai, judges, priests, nuns etc.

If this is true then the poor girl must be in bits, having been assaulted to go to gardai, difficult enough for anyone only to be raped by the Garda, the thought makes me physically sick. Also at the end of the article it says that another file has been sent to the DPP alleging that another gardai raped a girl in muster, seriously hope this isn't the beginning of a much bigger story.

Sound Bite · 19-11-2012 02:28AM

Disgusting abuse of power if these allegations are true.

Savage under any circumstance but truely horrific when he was dealing with the first assult.

PizzamanIRL · 19-11-2012 03:40AM

Look at everybody jumping on board with the Garda just because of a word.

How many of these 'alleged' cases are ever found to be false?

If it's true, and more than likely is, i hope he gets tortured to death. She comes for help and gets that? Sick ****er.

allegedly

randylonghorn · 19-11-2012 03:49AM

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

How many of these 'alleged' cases are ever found to be false?

Generally the ones that no-one ever bothers to put in the papers.

"Garda did not rape anyone" doesn't make much of a headline.

That's not really the point though.

The point is that while this, if proven, is I agree a horrendous situation, everyone is entitled to be tried fairly and properly if accused of wrongdoing, not tried and convicted on the internet without a chance to speak in their own defense.

Cookie_Monster · 19-11-2012 04:21AM

Zaph wrote: »

Before this turns into a complete trainwreck, please remember that in this country there is the presumption of innocence unless proven guilty.

except for sexual offences where the guy will be tarred for life and viewed with suspicion regardless of the outcome.

endacl · 19-11-2012 04:24AM

flutterflye wrote: »

Oh my god - and the girl was seeking to report a sexual assault, and the prick of a guard that she went to to report it went and allegedly raped her :eek:
There are actually no words

Well........

......there is the word 'allegedly'......

poeticseraphim · 19-11-2012 04:32AM

OMG, Shocking if true.

It says there is a strong case against the individual.:-(

She was a teen victim of sex abuse:-(
Poor girl.

Do they not have psychological testing for profiling for Guards?

And would is leaving a male guard alone with a female teen sex abuse victim be very common? If so that is worrying. Would they not have some chaperone?? Or at least a female guard too??

Even with an honorable guard I would imagine that the victim would feel uncomfortable.

And we just gave over more power to the state on cases like this .

The story is alleged still of course...

In light of this I am deeply concerned over the result of the children's ref and i voted yes:-(

poeticseraphim · 19-11-2012 04:40AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

except for sexual offences where the guy will be tarred for life and viewed with suspicion regardless of the outcome.

His identity is undisclosed.

That would help him nationally if he were innocent.

I am uncertain about his locality and his identity being known there.

Perhaps it would have been best not to release the fact that this happened in Meath??

We all want a fair trial.

If he is innocent...it should be reported ...

If guilty...I do not want the judge that gave a man who failed to pay tax on garlic and gave an attempted rapist a fine anywhere near him.....

This is a serious case ..if he is guilty ..IF...IF ...then it poses some serious questions for the guards and the way we handle these cases with minors etc ...:(:(:(:(:(:(....:(horrible

ALLEGEDLY ALLEGEDLY ALLEGEDLY

Oranage2 · 19-11-2012 08:18AM

Stories about the Gardai are becoming all too common, some reform needs to take place there is too much 'alleged' corruption going on. Some are a lwa upon themselves!

galwayrush · 19-11-2012 08:52AM

Must be a nightmare for his wife and kids.

Grayson · 19-11-2012 09:52AM

I genuinely think I don't have an opinion on this one. Strange that. I can generally muster up something. The whole article is a bit vague.

Er.. I hope justice gets done.

19-11-2012 10:21AM

Why are independent news the only ones carrying this story? That seems odd to say the least.

Reloc8 · 19-11-2012 10:28AM

So lets get this straight :-

1. If the allegation is true : that's horrendous and the criminal involved should be jailed for a very long time. My sympathies are with the victim at this terrible time. By the way all of the people in this thread looking to pursue their own [insert when known] agendas should be ashamed of themselves.

2. If the allegation is untrue : that's horrendous and the criminal involved should be jailed for a very long time. My sympathies are with the victim at this terrible time. By the way all of the people in this thread looking to pursue their own [insert when known] agendas should be ashamed of themselves.

Can somebody pm me to come back and edit this post whenever there has been a, what do you call it, 'investigation' followed by one of those 'criminal trial' thingummies during which a person has been found how do you say it again 'guilty or not guilty' ? That'd be awesome.

homerjay2005 · 19-11-2012 10:28AM

my first instinct here is that this is a really poorly written article,its like it was written by a 12 year old. writing like this, could actually be a reason that the case could be thrown out, even if he is guilty.

however, on the crime itself, if found guilty then he should be f8cked into jail for 10+ years , this is an absolutely horrific case. i dont think anybody should cast jusgement however, until full details are out. the man wasnt charged yet a "source" expects them later.....very strange thing to write.

SEPT 23 1989 · 19-11-2012 10:32AM

Do they ever go to jail?

Remmy · 19-11-2012 11:01AM

Well this guys life is never going to be the same again. Even if it was a mallicious rumour and he was proved innocent.

Garda accused of rape in station.

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