Installer's experience post DSO?

Booms · 16-11-2012 04:03PM #1

While it's great to still have the regular posters providing all the sound and knowledgable advice on the forum, for which many thanks, I do miss having the installers posting here, it feels like there's something missing in the community.

I was wondering how they are finding the post DSO situation - has the workload increased or bottomed out? Are customers accepting the changeover or beefing about it? And if there are any surprises regarding better/worse reception in certain areas. Is the demand for boxes/equipment and installations reducing now that we've passed the transition date?

And, of course, have the cowboys disappeared?:D

watty · 16-11-2012 09:14PM

No, just today (16th Nov 2012), a "Cowboy" with no Logo/Name on van, no roof ladder, walked up neighbour's roof and bolted a Sky type dish to the pole with MMDS aerial on it, bottom of dish above the chimney stack.

Single o/p LNBF and coax in tangled loop on dish arm.

swoofer · 17-11-2012 12:36PM

what is DSO?

Digifriendly · 17-11-2012 02:38PM

GBCULLEN wrote: »

what is DSO?

Digital Switch Over ending analogue transmissions. Happened both north and south on 24th of October. Only analogue that remains is odd reflector systems in more remote parts.

The Cush · 17-11-2012 04:51PM

GBCULLEN wrote: »

what is DSO?

Definition of ASO and DSO from the old Saorview website

ASO
Analogue Switch Off (ASO) is the date when RTÉNL will stop broadcasting the existing analogue television signal.

DSO
Digital Switch Over (DSO) is the name of the national process of switching from analogue to digital television transmission. [the transition/simulcast phase between the switching on of DTT and analogue switch off]

swoofer · 17-11-2012 11:08PM

thanks both, what a waste of an acroynm, it could be digital switch off, digital switch over, digital switch on, digital switch open, or digital switch operatiing full marks to the brain that dreamt that one up. And it was only to be used when both were operating. Its post ASO from here on in. ie DSO is dead in the water.

GullibleOne · 18-11-2012 02:05PM

watty wrote: »

No, just today (16th Nov 2012), a "Cowboy" with no Logo/Name on van, no roof ladder, walked up neighbour's roof and bolted a Sky type dish to the pole with MMDS aerial on it, bottom of dish above the chimney stack.

Single o/p LNBF and coax in tangled loop on dish arm.

What is o/p LNBF and what is the significance of coax in tangled loop on dish arm

swoofer · 18-11-2012 02:34PM

just technical mumbo jumbo op = output. lnbF is just putting the f after LNB to make it technically precise, F = feedhorn( LNB-feedhorn (LNBF), coax in tangled loop means installer did not put in a rain loop, look at dishes, its to stop the rainwater running down the cable.

the LNBF is not very often used as it gets confused with that great ecological phrase LEAVE NOTHING BUT FOOTPRINTS(LNBF) but it looks like said installer did not adhere to that one.

there you go, I like your user name

GullibleOne · 18-11-2012 02:43PM

GBCULLEN wrote: »

just technical mumbo jumbo op = output. lnbF is just putting the f after LNB to make it technically precise, F = feedhorn( LNB-feedhorn (LNBF), coax in tangled loop means installer did not put in a rain loop, look at dishes, its to stop the rainwater running down the cable.

the LNBF is not very often used as it gets confused with that great ecological phrase LEAVE NOTHING BUT FOOTPRINTS(LNBF) but it looks like said installer did not adhere to that one.

there you go, I like your user name

I like your user name

it is appropriate in relation to aerials etc:D

watty · 18-11-2012 05:23PM

November 2012 install.

Dish shouldn't be on MMDS pole
MMDS pole is cheap TV pole and lash kit.
Dish shouldn't be above chimney stack
Signal path too close to TV aerial (elevation is about 22.5 Degrees >- )
Coax not properly fed. The two foreground cables are TV & MMDS. No 3rd cable was added so the so called "Installer" used the MMDS or Aerial cable. Possibly the MMDS cable as it was a Pirate install (owner boasted of it). So likely not proper coax cable.
LNBF is only a single o/p (output) which is very mean and short sighted. A Quad is an entry level to day, with either Quattro or Octo next level of feature.
Cheap perforated dish will rust, solid dish is best. No difference in wind loading.

GullibleOne · 18-11-2012 05:30PM

watty wrote: »

November 2012 install.
Dish shouldn't be on MMDS pole

MMDS pole is cheap TV pole and lash kit.

Dish shouldn't be above chimney stack

Signal path too close to TV aerial (elevation is about 22.5 Degrees >- )

Coax not properly fed. The two foreground cables are TV & MMDS. No 3rd cable was added so the so called "Installer" used the MMDS or Aerial cable. Possibly the MMDS cable as it was a Pirate install (owner boasted of it). So likely not proper coax cable.

LNBF is only a single o/p (output) which is very mean and short sighted. A Quad is an entry level to day, with either Quattro or Octo next level of feature.

Cheap perforated dish will rust, solid dish is best. No difference in wind loading.

thanks very informative. The square one is MMDS?

I can actually see a dish from here that is above the chimney

St Senan · 18-11-2012 05:35PM

Watty
its cheap crap jobs like this that is destroying the Aerial rigging business. No lashing kit, No cradle, No 6ft-8ft pole. just an upside down skydish bracket and a cheap 10 element aerial. http://tnypic.net/1lzoh.jpg
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byte · 18-11-2012 05:47PM

@Watty: that is a poor bit of work there.

THat dish won't last long there, with the extra exposure to the elements and also the chimney smoke won't help the lifespan of it much.

watty · 18-11-2012 07:27PM

The "installer" may not last long either. No roof ladder. triple extension ladder against gutter and nothing at bottom, no one holding it either.

Better solutions (2 houses up street, common in estate).

Though often there is no need to mount a dish on a chimney. Elevation of Satellite is about 22.5 compared to 0 for a TV aerial.

Neighbour is only the 2nd with it above the Chimney.

watty · 18-11-2012 07:29PM

byte wrote: »

@Watty: that is a poor bit of work there.

THat dish won't last long there, with the extra exposure to the elements and also the chimney smoke won't help the lifespan of it much.

I hope it breaks nothing of mine on the way down.

gtg60 · 18-11-2012 08:40PM

watty wrote: »

Possibly the MMDS cable as it was a Pirate install (owner boasted of it).

Karma sent him those 'installers' so

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