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Apostrophes

  • 16-11-2012 06:22AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭


    I often find myself reading threads where good points are being made and good arguments are going back and forth. Then someone starts splattering apostrophes everywhere to pluralise things and I can't be bothered to take the person seriously anymore.

    Am I alone on this? Do you take someone seriously when they're arguing a point yet they seem to lack basic education in the English language? I skip a post as soon as I see a dodgy apostrophe and I'm wondering if I have a problem and need therapy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Apostrophe's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    They probably picked it up from all those CD's and DVD's released during the 90's. That my 2c's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,161 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Agree OP; apostrophes and other forms of basic grammar are essential for me to take a post seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Pedantic's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I was using an apostrophe automatically for it's until I realised I was making a mistake with the ownership its.

    I must admit it doe's irk me somewhat when I look back over old post's and see mistake's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    Yes because the idea being conveyed isn't important only the the placement of apostrophes. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Apostrophes

    There was twelve of them, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. I can't remember the rest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    Doc wrote: »
    Yes because the idea being conveyed isn't important only the the placement of apostrophes. :rolleyes:

    If the person doesn't use language properly then their idea is automatically written off. Also applies to the asshole emoticon that you included in your post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    If the person doesn't use language properly then their idea is automatically written off. Also applies to the asshole emoticon that you included in your post.

    Poor attempt at a troll?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    kneemos wrote: »
    Poor attempt at a troll?

    Include the "thinly veiled", "poor attempt at a troll","been posted before" people along with the apostrophe retards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Include the "thinly veiled", "poor attempt at a troll","been posted before" people along with the apostrophe retards.

    I bet you have all the friends.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    I often find myself reading threads where good points are being made and good arguments are going back and forth. Then someone starts splattering apostrophes everywhere to pluralise things and I can't be bothered to take the person seriously anymore.

    I skip a post as soon as I see a dodgy apostrophe and I'm wondering if I have a problem and need therapy.




    Are you sure you saw these quality threads on Boards?

    I would have thought the random apostrophe was the least of your concerns.

    Oops, I meant concern's of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Dying children in Africa,torture in Chinese prisons,this green discharge are all a concern,apostrophe's not so much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    I bet you have all the friends.

    have ALL the friends o/'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,384 ✭✭✭gbee


    No, it's perfectly normal, there are children and Internet psychos who will argue with anyone, anyone on my ignore list is constantly in trouble with other posters too.

    There are several tools to catch them out, language and its usage is one that is very well documented.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    gbee wrote: »
    No, it's perfectly normal, there are children and Internet psychos who will argue with anyone, anyone on my ignore list is constantly in trouble with other posters too.

    There are several tools to catch them out, language and its usage is one that is very well documented.

    i agree tat tlkin liek dis is gernrly a bd sine.

    But I don't think it's fair to claim that somebody who misuses the apostrophe can't have valid opinions or contribute to a discussion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,384 ✭✭✭gbee


    But I don't think it's fair to claim that somebody who misuses the apostrophe can't have valid opinions or contribute to a discussion.

    Very simple, the use of the apostrophe can change the meaning of a sentence. Mistakes and eagerness aside, if one does not know what they have written, it's more of a chore to try and understand.

    And if a poster is at such a low level anyway, their opinions would be treated differently if not even dismissed out of hand.

    Anyway, it's up to the poster, this topic come up a few times, a well written comment will always extricate better responses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    gbee wrote: »
    Anyway, it's up to the poster, this topic come up a few times, a well written comment will always extricate better responses.

    I certainly agree with this part. I wouldn't dismiss someone out of hand for language errors though.

    Sometimes I won't bother to read a wall of text, and I certainly won't put myself through the effort of figuring out a post with no punctuation, but generally you're not going to have much trouble extracting the correct meaning from a post which misuses apostrophes.

    It's worth remembering that some people have learning difficulties, but that doesn't mean they don't have worthwhile things to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    gbee wrote: »
    Very simple, the use of the apostrophe can change the meaning of a sentence. Mistakes and eagerness aside, if one does not know what they have written, it's more of a chore to try and understand.

    And if a poster is at such a low level anyway, their opinions would be treated differently if not even dismissed out of hand.

    Anyway, it's up to the poster, this topic come up a few times, a well written comment will always extricate better responses.

    Sorry all dyslexics,don't even bother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,384 ✭✭✭gbee


    kneemos wrote: »
    Sorry all dyslexics,don't even bother.

    I am dyslexic. Almost everything I write has to be written a few times.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    gbee wrote: »
    I am dyslexic. Almost everything I write has to be written a few times.

    Probably why I'm dismissing your opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭Ellis Dee


    I suggest some or other Mod starts a thread where posters can nominate the worst punctuation offenders and choose a winner..:D

    I hereby undertake to finance the prize for the winner - a copy of the book "Eats, Shoots & Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation" by Lynn Truss.

    I'd also recommend it as a good Christmas present for someone else or yourself.:)


    Sample:
    A panda walks into a café. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and proceeds to fire it at the other patrons.

    "Why?" asks the confused, surviving waiter amidst the carnage, as the panda makes towards the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

    "Well, I'm a panda," he says, at the door. "Look it up."
    The waiter turns to the relevant entry in the manual and, sure enough, finds an explanation. "Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eats,_Shoots_%26_Leaves


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,384 ✭✭✭gbee


    kneemos wrote: »
    Probably why I'm dismissing your opinion.

    What an about turn there. Bye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Apostrophes are not very important, and there are not many occasions when their presence or absence obscures a sentence's meaning, but I still prefer to see them used correctly. There are much more egregious language mistakes, however.

    Those things over there are her husband's.
    Those things over there are her husbands'.
    Those things over there are her husbands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭malkmoose


    gbee wrote: »
    I am dyslexic. Almost everything I write has to be written a few times.

    Are you saying because you are dyslexic and can punctuate correctly means all dyslexic people should be able to punctuate correctly?

    Do you think it is snobby to dismiss opinions that are not expressed with perfect grammar and punctuation?

    I will always tolerate poor grammar and punctuation when someone wants to make a point or feels passionate about something on a forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Who gives a f*cking sh*t?

    I thought these tedious grammar threads were supposed to be an endangered species in here these days?

    There is a private forum for people to jerk off in about it, isn't there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    If the person doesn't use language properly then their idea is automatically written off.

    You're missing out on lots of good ideas then Sir. Poor grammar is not proof of a dull mind or unimaginative person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,384 ✭✭✭gbee


    malkmoose wrote: »
    Are you saying because you are dyslexic

    Another poster said dyslexic people should not bother. Why not ask him. In fact dyslexic people have to try harder and the computer is a great aid as the writtne word itsfle may not show the problem but it does become obvious on the PC screen.

    I left that bit in deliberately.

    Snobbish. Yes, certainly, and why not, I worked hard for my education and lack of is seen all too often as an excuse and is unacceptable to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    You're missing out on lots of good ideas then Sir. Poor grammar is not proof of a dull mind or unimaginative person.

    A lot of the greatest scientists have poor grammer apparently.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭CommanderC


    I often find myself reading threads where good points are being made and good arguments are going back and forth. Then someone starts splattering apostrophes everywhere to pluralise things and I can't be bothered to take the person seriously anymore.

    Am I alone on this? Do you take someone seriously when they're arguing a point yet they seem to lack basic education in the English language? I skip a post as soon as I see a dodgy apostrophe and I'm wondering if I have a problem and need therapy.

    This is your own problem really. If you are willing to shut yourself off from people who, by your own admission, are expressing good ideas and interesting arguments then, it's only you who will miss out.

    If you're happy with that.....coolbananas.

    If you're not..............it's therapy time.

    Either, way, I, won't, be, taking, your, posts, seriously, anymore,.


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