'Day of Action and Solidarity' across EU against austerity (except Ireland)

davet82 · 14-11-2012 11:16AM #1

Trade union members in Portugal, Greece and Spain are holding both work stoppages and demonstrations today, in protest at the continuing implementation of austerity across the European Union.

Further action is expected in France, Italy, Cyprus and Belgium.

Flights, trains and other transport links across Europe are likely to be hit by today's 'Day of Action and Solidarity', which involves 40 groups from 23 countries.

seeing that we have it so handy here its probably wise not to get involved :rolleyes:

Blowfish · 14-11-2012 11:19AM

So wait, you actually want flights, trains and all transport disrupted here?

davet82 · 14-11-2012 11:20AM

Blowfish wrote: »

So wait, you actually want flights, trains and all transport disrupted here?

flights are disrupted anyways so might aswell complete the set :cool:

fishy fishy · 14-11-2012 11:22AM

no wonder they can do what they like to us - we're like sitting ducks. :roll eyes: too stupid to move.

hatrickpatrick · 14-11-2012 11:22AM

Absolutely f*cking typical. This is no longer the great nation which caused the British Empire more trouble than any other colony due to its constant activism.

What the hell happened?!

Eve_Dublin · 14-11-2012 11:24AM

I have to agree. This is an embarrassment. People need to get off their holes.

CruelCoin · 14-11-2012 11:28AM

Ok, lets end austerity.

We have 35bill coming in and 55bill going out.

Without austerity budgets, where would you get the extra 20bill from?

And before you say it, no, taxing the rich will just not yield 20bill.

mike65 · 14-11-2012 11:28AM

Just what Ireland needs right now - industrial walkouts, public sector clocking off, riots and the SWP handing out leaflets.

hatrickpatrick · 14-11-2012 11:30AM

CruelCoin wrote: »

Ok, lets end austerity.

We have 35bill coming in and 55bill going out.

Without austerity budgets, where would you get the extra 20bill from?

And before you say it, no, taxing the rich will just not yield 20bill.

The entire international monetary system needs to be completely overhauled to get everyone out of this mess. This is not about local taxation or austerity.

In a working system of trade, you aren't guaranteed a break down every 10-20 years. We have to move away from the money as debt model and end the inevitable boom and bust cycle that results.

But of course, the idea that banks shouldn't be for profit institutions which issue new currency as unpayable debt will seem "too radical" for most people :rolleyes:

Madam_X · 14-11-2012 11:33AM

davet82 wrote: »

seeing that we have it so handy here its probably wise not to get involved :rolleyes:

fishy fishy wrote: »

no wonder they can do what they like to us - we're like sitting ducks. :roll eyes: too stupid to move.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Absolutely f*cking typical. This is no longer the great nation which caused the British Empire more trouble than any other colony due to its constant activism.

What the hell happened?!

So... you're people in Ireland not out protesting... giving out about people in Ireland not out protesting...

fishy fishy · 14-11-2012 11:34AM

mike65 wrote: »

Just what Ireland needs right now - industrial walkouts, public sector clocking off, riots and the SWP handing out leaflets.

:rolleyes: oh right we'll just sit nicely so and wait for the patronizing pat on the back from germany, and a tickle from edna kenny as he walks off into the sunset with his high salary and pension never to be seen again.

its time to wake up and smell the sh*t.

I think Ireland's fighting spirit is sadly only to be seen in the pensioners. As fare is this new generation - god help us all.

fishy fishy · 14-11-2012 11:35AM

Madam_X wrote: »

So... you're people in Ireland not out protesting... giving out about people in Ireland not out protesting...

been there, done that and will do it again time and time again. You? Do you go out, or do you leave it to others to try and fight for you.

hatrickpatrick · 14-11-2012 11:36AM

Madam_X wrote: »

So... you're people in Ireland not out protesting... giving out about people in Ireland not out protesting...

Who says I'm not protesting or trying to organize protests? O_o

Madam_X · 14-11-2012 11:37AM

fishy fishy wrote: »

:rolleyes: oh right we'll just sit nicely so and wait for the patronizing pat on the back from germany

Yes, that's what you're doing - you're no different to those you decry.

SEPT 23 1989 · 14-11-2012 11:37AM

I will not protest with the trade Unions in this country

renofan · 14-11-2012 11:38AM

If you were a big multinational looking to setup in Ireland, Greece, Spain or Portugal I'd say I'd be right in saying Ireland would be top choice as we are working our way out, not going on strike every other day and causing mayhem. We are working at fixing our problems and I can say we'll get there before the countries that are always striking. Hopefully you can understand what I'm trying to say!

hatrickpatrick · 14-11-2012 11:38AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I will not protest with the trade Unions in this country

F*ck guilty by association, that's like when people said "I'm not voting no to the treaty because SF are also voting no".

If you see a problem, protest about it. Doesn't matter if you don't approve of some of your fellow protesters, nobody supports every different movement that makes up a resistance do they?

Yakult · 14-11-2012 11:39AM

Madam_X wrote: »

So... you're people in Ireland not out protesting... giving out about people in Ireland not out protesting...

welcome to 2012, where internet comes to you anywhere and anytime, thanks to you friendly local mobile communications provider.

Madam_X · 14-11-2012 11:40AM

fishy fishy wrote: »

been there, done that and will do it again time and time again. You? Do you go out, or do you leave it to others to try and fight for you.

Yes I have done but haven't organised any marches. And I equally don't bitch about others not doing so.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Who says I'm not protesting or trying to organize protests? O_o

I'm referring to this particular event though - why are you criticising everyone else in Ireland for not taking part when you're not either?

hatrickpatrick · 14-11-2012 11:40AM

renofan wrote: »

If you were a big multinational looking to setup in Ireland, Greece, Spain or Portugal I'd say I'd be right in saying Ireland would be top choice as we are working our way out, not going on strike every other day and causing mayhem. We are working at fixing our problems and I can say we'll get there before the countries that are always striking. Hopefully you can understand what I'm trying to say!

Define "get there"? We'll still be stuck with a dysfunctional financial and currency system if we don't force them to change it somehow, and the boom and bust cycle will inevitably repeat itself further down the line.

It's like getting a car serviced and the guy in the garage tells you "I can fix it, but I 100% guarantee it'll break down again in a month or two, you're better off getting a different mode of transport tbh"

Eve_Dublin · 14-11-2012 11:41AM

mike65 wrote: »

Just what Ireland needs right now - industrial walkouts, public sector clocking off, riots and the SWP handing out leaflets.

Ah come now! We're hardly known for our rioting. Most protests go off peacefully.

I irritates me when people come out with a line like the above - I don't live in Ireland but it seems there's anger there simmering below the surface of the general public, not just the unions, SWP, civil servants etc. who tend to give these protests a bad rep (mainly because not enough of us protest and they're the only ones who turn up). Everyone's been affected. Why not make that disgust known in a civilised manner? It's hardly the end of the world go hold a demonstration for one day. At least people wouldn't feel so impotent.

hatrickpatrick · 14-11-2012 11:41AM

Madam_X wrote: »

Yes I have done but haven't organised any marches. And I equally don't bitch about others not doing so.

I'm referring to this particular event though - why are you criticising everyone else in Ireland for not taking part when you're not either.

I tried to help organize a rally actually and got almost no interest in it.
I'll try and help organize the next one as well. And the next one.

I'm not criticizing people for not taking part, I'm criticizing people for not being enthusiastic enough in the first place for the event to even exist. These things are planned weeks or months in advance.

fishy fishy · 14-11-2012 11:42AM

Madam_X wrote: »

Yes I have done but haven't organised any marches. And I equally don't bitch about others not doing so.

could have fooled me (and others) with your previous post

Eve_Dublin · 14-11-2012 11:44AM

I think it's fair to criticise our lack of action and discuss the reasons why we don't though. Perhaps it could be a catalyst for change.

Micky Dolenz · 14-11-2012 11:44AM

These stoppages best not interrupt my winter sun holiday.

gobnaitolunacy · 14-11-2012 11:44AM

What have anti austerity protests (and occupy protests) ever achieved anyway?
Sweet fcuk all.

mike65 · 14-11-2012 11:44AM

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

I irritates me when people come out with a line like the above - I don't live in Ireland but it seems there's anger there simmering below the surface of the general public, not just the unions, SWP, civil servants etc. who tend to give these protests a bad rep (mainly because not enough of us protest and they're the only ones who turn up). Everyone's been affected. Why not make that disgust known in a civilised manner? It's hardly the end of the world go hold a demonstration for one day. At least people wouldn't feel so impotent.

In what way will a march expedite a solution to the current fiscal hole Ireland sits in?

davet82 · 14-11-2012 11:45AM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

These stoppages best not interrupt my winter sun holiday.

bastard :pac:

hatrickpatrick · 14-11-2012 11:45AM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

These stoppages best not interrupt my winter sun holiday.

I was going to give out to you but then noticed your 2-D Gorillaz avatar. Well played sir, well played

SafeSurfer · 14-11-2012 11:47AM

Blowfish wrote: »

So wait, you actually want flights, trains and all transport disrupted here?

No, lets not rock the boat. As long as we have enough to eat and a roof over our head we should be grateful.....oh many people have neither, oh.

maddragon · 14-11-2012 11:49AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Absolutely f*cking typical. This is no longer the great nation which caused the British Empire more trouble than any other colony due to its constant activism.

What the hell happened?!

People forget it took us 800 years to get rid of them. An uprising every 60 years or so was hardly constant activism 1590s, 1640s, 1690s, 1798, 1840s, 1916-1922. We are just about due another one now however.

'Day of Action and Solidarity' across EU against austerity (except Ireland)

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