Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

Mitch Connor · 13-11-2012 04:28PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

i dont dislike any united players, i fully support every player that puts on teh jersey.

however, i believe that Phil Jones is extremely overrated by alot of United fans. his all action, tackling style and burst forward cover up huge cracks in his positioning and defending. he cost us alot of goals last season as a center half.

he aint a patch on Smalling IMO right now. of course he is young and can develop, but he has a huge amount of developing to do to be good enough to replace Rio and Vidic.

I agree and disagree with this.

I agree regarding his defensive failings - positioning and being caught out due to his runs upfield, but I don't think he cost us a lot of goals last season - he should have cost us more in that he got lucky that we weren't caught out on a number of occassions, but I'd say the number of goals attributable to his errors would actually be quite low.

As you say, he isn't a patch on Smalling.

I know i have said it a lot but I do think if Vidic had not have gotten injured last season, he and Smalling would have been first choice - it looked like they were at the time of Vidic's injury. Reckon Vidic and Smalling was first choice combo, Rio and Vidic second, Rio and Evans third.

Winston Payne · 13-11-2012 04:57PM

Jones' distribution was the thing to suffer the most in the second half of last season. Became a proper hoofer. Remember the aimless lump behind his back last season at City? Ugh. We ran him into the ground though. He played across a variety of positions and filled in a lot because of injury. I've no worries about him as a defender. Anyone that can put Rooney and Drogba in their pocket has a chance of being half-decent.

Pj! · 13-11-2012 05:03PM

Has to be said that Phil Jones is just 20 and is likely to improve a lot in the coming years. He has his mistakes but he possesses a lot of positives.

I'd rather him at United than anywhere else.

The_Kew_Tour · 13-11-2012 05:12PM

As things stand

Smalling>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jones.

IMO Smalling will turn into gem

TheTownie · 13-11-2012 05:19PM

Jones age 20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evans age 20.

Jones is potential. Its why he was so coveted by clubs. Just want to see him get over this patch of injuries and get his head down and become the player we all want him to be.

Kylo Ren · 13-11-2012 05:52PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFzNnF6mUWM

IncognitoMan · 13-11-2012 06:17PM

^ Best video Ive seen in a while. The 10min fly by

homerjay2005 · 13-11-2012 06:27PM

theres alot of talk that Ashley Cole is going to leave Chelsea next summer. he has been linked to us in the past, any of you think it could happen or would he be looking to head out foreign somewhere?

13-11-2012 06:32PM

TheTownie wrote: »

Jones age 20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evans age 20.

Jones is potential. Its why he was so coveted by clubs. Just want to see him get over this patch of injuries and get his head down and become the player we all want him to be.

Not really, Evans has only really had one bad season. That was when he was a bit part player. Every season he's gotten a run of games he's been great, Jones hit the rookie wall last year and it remains to be seen if he can do it consistently.

keane2097 · 13-11-2012 06:32PM

I think he could join United without there being too much fuss. Been lots of movement between the bigger clubs in recent years.

IncognitoMan · 13-11-2012 06:40PM

homerjay2005 wrote: »

theres alot of talk that Ashley Cole is going to leave Chelsea next summer. he has been linked to us in the past, any of you think it could happen or would he be looking to head out foreign somewhere?

I'd guess PSG. Great Left back and all that he is I'd rather we looked at a long term option. At 31 now it is likely he might not play to the standard of the last few years in the next few.

Dohnny Jepp · 13-11-2012 06:42PM

De Gea

Da Silva----Evans----Vidic

Evra

Carrick----Rooney----

Valencia

Kagawa

Nani

v Persie

Rooney hasn't been great in the deeper roles, I believe that is more to do with lack of experience playing there than lack of ability. I hope with more games played in that position he can become less wasteful with the ball and not get caught in possession. I think after Scholes, Rooney has the best range of passing in the team.

I rather Kagawa in the CAM role than Rooney. Kagawa brings more creativity to the attack than Rooney. One of his parents must be spanish!

I think come next summer we need to invest in a CM and CB. I'd love to see us grab Hummels and Schweinsteiger. I think we have great depth in all positions, we just lack a world class cb and cm. I worry Vidic is finished, too many injuries and he's not a young man in a footballing sense.

Pro. F · 13-11-2012 06:46PM

Liam O wrote: »

Not really, Evans has only really had one bad season. That was when he was a bit part player. Every season he's gotten a run of games he's been great, Jones hit the rookie wall last year and it remains to be seen if he can do it consistently.

Great is far too strong a word for Evans. He is still very weak in the air and last season we suffered with himself and Rio being the CB pair for so long.

This is not me saying that Jones or Evans was/are better at 20. I don't think you can judge a defender who is not playing in a settled defence regularly and neither of them were doing that at that age.

Rayne Wooney · 13-11-2012 06:52PM

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

De Gea
Da Silva----Evans----Vidic
Evra
Carrick----Rooney----

Valencia
Kagawa
Nani
v Persie

Rooney hasn't been great in the deeper roles, I believe that is more to do with lack of experience playing there than lack of ability. I hope with more games played in that position he can become less wasteful with the ball and not get caught in possession. I think after Scholes, Rooney has the best range of passing in the team.

I rather Kagawa in the CAM role than Rooney. Kagawa brings more creativity to the attack than Rooney. One of his parents must be spanish!

I think come next summer we need to invest in a CM and CB. I'd love to see us grab Hummels and Schweinsteiger. I think we have great depth in all positions, we just lack a world class cb and cm. I worry Vidic is finished, too many injuries and he's not a young man in a footballing sense.

For some reason United's formations don't look very stable to me anymore, we have great attackers but too many holes in the midfield and defence. Our mentality this season can be described as "we know you're going to score goals, but we'll score more"

I hope we sign Hummels as well he is world class already with 10+ years still to play.. As much as I'd love it, I don't think we'll sign Schweinsteiger. If he decides to leave Bayern we're talkin' Andy Carrol money :eek: :pac:

macslash · 14-11-2012 01:55AM

Nothing to post really, just said I'd bring us back to the 1st page of threads

We were heading for mid-table on the 2nd page :O :O

Kilkenny14 · 14-11-2012 09:07AM

aperture_nuig · 14-11-2012 09:56AM

Great video, he's such a likable player.

Maximus Alexander · 14-11-2012 10:13AM

Love him to bits.

Macca07 · 14-11-2012 10:30AM

aperture_nuig wrote: »

Great video, he's such a likable player.

This is my favourite Chicharito goal, just the reaction from the players and fans when he scored.

aperture_nuig · 14-11-2012 10:39AM

Still get goosebumps watching that video, Great goal

KH25 · 14-11-2012 10:58AM

Absolutely love Chicharito. My favourite player at United and arguably one of the best signings made by Fergie in his 26 years at the club.

FutureGuy · 14-11-2012 11:10AM

Kilkenny14 wrote: »

Lads, is there anyone else at the club with better heading technique???

On a more serious note. I regret little in my life. Ferrari. Model girlfriend. An apartment in every city. I'm currently writing this on an ivory and gold keyboard.

However, I do regret not having children much sooner in life. Especially a beautiful daughter. Then she could be married to Chicharito and I could welcome him into the family. I could serve him dinner on Christmas day. "More turkey, Javier?" "Oh thank you so much, it is the most fantastic turkey in the entire world" And then I would make a joke based on the association of his nickname and the peas being served at the table, and he would laugh. And then we could open presents. He would knit me a nice jumper. Then he would leave my daughter and run away with me to an island. She's only a bitch anways and was never good enough for you my little pea...

What have I done with my life...:(

magnumbud · 14-11-2012 11:34AM

FutureGuy wrote: »

Lads, is there anyone else at the club with better heading technique???

On a more serious note. I regret little in my life. Ferrari. Model girlfriend. An apartment in every city. I'm currently writing this on an ivory and gold keyboard.

However, I do regret not having children much sooner in life. Especially a beautiful daughter. Then she could be married to Chicharito and I could welcome him into the family. I could serve him dinner on Christmas day. "More turkey, Javier?" "Oh thank you so much, it is the most fantastic turkey in the entire world" And then I would make a joke based on the association of his nickname and the peas being served at the table, and he would laugh. And then we could open presents. He would knit me a nice jumper. Then he would leave my daughter and run away with me to an island. She's only a bitch anways and was never good enough for you my little pea...

What have I done with my life...:(

he wouldnt be able to have much for dinner as he would likely be playing on st stephens day

FutureGuy · 14-11-2012 11:39AM

magnumbud wrote: »

he wouldnt be able to have much for dinner as he would likely be playing on st stephens day

Quiet you!

grames_bond · 14-11-2012 12:18PM

magnumbud wrote: »

he wouldnt be able to have much for dinner as he would likely be playing on st stephens day

yeah......THAT'S the fatal flaw in futureguys dream!! :pac:

FutureGuy · 14-11-2012 12:35PM

grames_bond wrote: »

yeah......THAT'S the fatal flaw in futureguys dream!! :pac:

Reported for being a jealous hata'

Macca07 · 14-11-2012 01:11PM

The man love for Chicharito is at an all time high I'd say...

Mikeyt086 · 14-11-2012 02:00PM

I dunno, the title run in of 2011 was a particualrly wet time for Chich on here.

Maximus Alexander · 14-11-2012 02:04PM

I reckon the man love for Chico will be at an all time high next May, right after he scores the winner in the Champions League final.

Place your bets, you heard it here first.

Corvo · 14-11-2012 02:33PM

He's no Michael Owen

He is looking very sharp I must say. Still, Rooney and Van Persie should be started in every important game.

Manchester United Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 12/13

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