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Does being sceptical of mixed-race relationships automatically make you racist?

  • 12-11-2012 10:00PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭se02orqua5xz9v


    First of all, lest anyone misinterpret the headline of this thread, I am not against mixed-race relationships. I believe people should be allowed to date whoever they want, as long both parties are consenting adults, and I myself would not be adverse to dating someone of a different ethnicity, as I have done in the past (albeit briefly).

    However, when it comes to two people of different ethnicities dating or marrying, I cannot help but feel less confident about the survival of their relationship than if both were of the same ethnic background. I dare not say this to anyone but my closest friends, for fear of being branded a racist.

    But why is it racist to be sceptical of mixed-race relationships? They have a much higher divorce rate in racially-mixed countries like the United States than marriages between people of the same background.

    An academic article, visible here, by Professor Jenifer Bratter (who is herself of mixed-background) and Professor Rosalind King, entitled "But Will It Last?": Duration of Interracial Unions Compared to Similar Race Relationships", included in Volume 57, Issue 2 of the publication Family Relations, states that White Wife/Black Husband marriages have twice the divorce rate as White Wife/White Husband marriages.

    As I say, I'm not against mixed-race relationships, I don't think we should have anti-miscegenation laws, as they had in the state of Virginia until 1967, or in South Africa under apartheid. However, if a close friend or relative happened to date someone of a different ethnicity, I would probably be slightly apprehensive about it.

    I also do not believe that children whose parents are separated are as likely to have a happy, prosperous childhood as children raised with married parents. That does not mean I am against divorce, just that I find divorce especially saddening when children are involved.


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    Pretty sure you're a racist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭Zab


    I don't really see what good you expect to come of this post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    black and yellow black and yellow black and yellow


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ....what it doesn't seem to layout is cultural differences. A second generation African Irish lad is going to be far more culturally similar to the majority of irish people than somebody here a year or two. Likewise the Chinese etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    If anything i think it makes a relationship stronger,especially if they're both different nationalities.I have 2 friends married to black woman,one dutch and one american.I have 3 muslim friends from syria all married to Irish women and have the happiest relationships going.

    The clash of traditions makes them happier if anything.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭9959


    YES


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Compared to White/White couples, White female/Black male, and White female/Asian male marriages were more prone to divorce; meanwhile, those involving non-White females and White males and Hispanics and non-Hispanic persons had similar or lower risks of divorce.

    There you have it, marry a white guy. PM me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Does not believing you are a racist even though you hold racist beliefs still make you a racist?

    Yes. Yes it does.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    So I hear you're...

    Nah nevermind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭cml387


    Marry wthin your species. Always worked for me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    i'm not a racist, but...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    First of all, lest anyone (....) are involved.

    Your last attempt at stirring the shit was asking opinions on a 'gay joke' in the lgbt forum. Why did you bring your antics here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,083 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    Ah here, I would much prefer a child be raised by divorced parents who are happier than parents who are in a loveless marriage for the sake of the kids. As a child who grew up in the latter household I can tell you that you are doing them no favours and divorce is a much healthier option for every involved.

    I don't think there is any reason to think that mixed race marriages are doomed to failure. You give America as an example but in fairness the divorce rate in America is really high anyway regardless of rave or backround sooo... Yeah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Of course not. And anyone who thinks it is racist is in fact racist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    Of course not. And anyone who thinks it is racist is in fact racist.

    The old "takes one to know one" argument eh? Or "I know you are but what am I?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,060 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    cml387 wrote: »
    Marry wthin your species. Always worked for me.
    I would prefer all Tipperary people to only marry Tipperary people. Don't spread your genes around, please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Everything makes you racist now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Everything makes you racist now.


    Even tea?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 581 ✭✭✭phoenix999


    Mixed race marriages=Ridiculously cute babies


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    The old "takes one to know one" argument eh? Or "I know you are but what am I?"

    You're not wrong. As they say, there's no smoke without fire.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Big Bottom


    But you shouldnt be concerning yourself about other peoples relationships.

    If two people are happy together thats all that matters, other people being less than confident about the survival of the relationship as you put it is just interfering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    juan.kerr wrote: »
    You're not wrong. As they say, there's no smoke without fire.

    At the end of the day, they do say that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    At the end of the day, they do say that.

    Spot on, no bother.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    You know what, I've never even thought about it. You know why? Because I don't give a shít what the likelihood is of a relationship ending based on race.

    Why do you care? What business is it of yours what other people get up to? The fact that you felt the need to start this thread, and the fact that you would feel "apprehensive" about a friend or family member getting involved with someone of a different race is quite telling tbh....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭Jimoslimos


    I'm sceptical of the shíte that passes for academic literature.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    First of all, lest anyone misinterpret the headline of this thread, I am not against mixed-race relationships. I believe people should be allowed to date whoever they want, as long both parties are consenting adults, and I myself would not be adverse to dating someone of a different ethnicity, as I have done in the past (albeit briefly).

    However, when it comes to two people of different ethnicities dating or marrying, I cannot help but feel less confident about the survival of their relationship than if both were of the same ethnic background. I dare not say this to anyone but my closest friends, for fear of being branded a racist.

    Hidden messages and all Mr White Supremacist. You just don't want the white man to water down his pure genes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭budgemook


    I understand your point and don't think it makes you racist. You're basically sceptical of relationships between people from very different backgrounds. Like if a young farmer started dating a girl from a rough council estate, or a traveller started dating a TD's kid. Might work, but you'd be sceptical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    White men seem to love their little Thai Brides, or those Busty Russians (if pop ups are to be believed) and the AHers sure have a fascination with them Polish wimminz. Or is it just a Black/ White thing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    I would prefer all Tipperary people to only marry Tipperary people. Don't spread your genes around, please.

    Sure we have Tipperary North Riding and South Riding

    Just love the ridin here in Tipp :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    Hidden messages and all Mr White Supremacist. You just don't want the white man to water down his pure genes.

    Damn right.


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