The Rebellion will begin in Donegal.

Shryke wrote: »

I'm in Galway and it does take the Donegal folk obscene amounts of time to get up and down. It's pretty shocking really.
There too busy drink driving and working on keeping their accents silly to start a rebellion though.

You mean keeping our accents sexy? We don't have to work on it though.

Shryke wrote: »

I love that you wouldn't bother to refute the drink driving.

There are more important things, like sexy accents!

Fr D Maugire wrote: »

But some are more beautiful than others and Donegal is right up there at the top of the list.

Right up there at the top of the country too..all out on its own..touching Leitrim...place can't catch a break:pac:

Can see all the Donegal natives getting riled up already...the pikes and pitchforks will be out next:pac:

LivelineDipso wrote: »

they destroyed their beautiful scenery with thousands of one off houses in ribbon developments while letting their towns die a death. Donegal "planning" was centred around creating the worst possible sustainable social and economic model possible.

Only yourselves to blame for that.

Now that I would agree with, the planning is horrible. Some of the amazing places people have been allowed to build houses is shocking.

dj jarvis wrote: »

just a quick FYI

the services in ALL of the republic of Ireland are in rag order - not just you lot up top.

and all this guff of " everything is in Dublin cork and Galway " is just pointless.
they are the center of population for the republic and that is why more services are close to these locations - no other reason.

In saying that the northwest SHOULD have decent services for the population living in it - but so should the rest of us.

So a sparsely populated county with no infrastructure , little natural resources that are readily available and no young people want to rebel ?

good luck with that

And the young of ALL the country have left the place a ghost town - not just the north west - but sure typical Irish local ****e - only care for the county and town , f2ck the rest of ya

well that has been working out great for us so far.

if Donegal wants independence from the rest of the Republic, then best of luck to you , at least then the road death , drink driving and dole fraud rates for the rest of our glorious republic will plummet like a lead balloon
instantly make life a little more bearable , and the brucey bonus is we still get to hear the sexy accent and jaw dropping views but just dont have to pay for it


Viva la revolution Donegal :eek:

I hate this crap about the high number of people killed on Donegal roads. Nearly every statistic you find on the figures, Donegal is basically level with other similar populated counties, cork and limerick.

Also the state of the roads are a big factor in road fatalities.

It's just unfortunate Donegal has some high profile cases.

And prove your comment about the Dole fraud please and the drink driving.

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Not anymore, the recession took care of that.

The levels of emigration are pretty high here, we have a serious lack of services compared to the rest of the country, and still some folk down the country ask me is it not difficult changing to the euro every time I come down south!

For such a big population you would think the government would try and keep the Donegal folk happy, but even Mary Coughlan done sweet fcuk all for her own county.

For all the abuse he gets about his crap music, Daniel O'Donnell has done more for the county than most politicians!

They do a f**k load for you, you're the most heavily subsidised county in the country - you get a free present of over €2500 per man, woman and child from the residents of Kildare, Dublin, Meath and Wicklow.

dj jarvis wrote: »

road deaths in donegal are higher than dublin (2010 figures) , and almost everywhere else in Ireland , donegal has a population on 160,00 apx and 19 dead , dublin has 1,600,000 and has 21 dead
so that would make the road death ratio of nearly 10/1 more in donegal than the most populated county in ireland - so its all down to the roads is it ?

link : http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Road-Safety/Our-Research/Deaths-injuries-on-Irish-roads/

as for dole fraud , it is well know that there is a major problem with dole fraud in the boarder area ( not with just residents of the ROI it has to be said )
google the life out of it if you want - volumes of print media reports on it
so much so this web page is up on the DSW site
http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Press/PressReleases/2009/Pages/pr060309.aspx

as for drink driving i can find any up to date figures , but older ones do show per head of population there is more arrests in Donegal ,
so to be getting upset with what is common knowledge of the county is a bit sensitive is it not ?

Funny , but anytime i have been to Donegal on holiday , the locals gush with pride on how the place is lawless and " like the wild west " , but yet when its mentioned , they suddenly go mad
can't have it both ways

and if you read my post it was mostly mirth and slagging , but also praising the county - so please dont be getting so upset

suppose the truth hurts

and again VIVA LA REVALUATION - hope it goes well for ya all

I wouldn't use Dublin to compare though, major motorway, more public transport etc etc. if you are ever in Donegal, you will see the state if national roads, especially after winter, so you can imagine what the B roads are like!

Look at say Cork, very similar to Donegal ( apart from the accent!) and the road fatalities are very similar. It's a matter of fact people in these counties are more or less completely dependent on cars to get around as there is a lack of public transport. I think Donegal is probably the only county in the republic without a train station, I could be wrong on that.

On the dole, it is very strict in Donegal in the past few years. They are making a big point of targeting people defrauding the social welfare. It's also unfortunate that the system is left open to abuse and people will abuse it.

Can I ask where in Donegal you went on holiday? I know some people have that attitude up here but when push comes to shove its only big talk. I worked in a pub that was out of the town so to speak and the taxi drivers loved us for the business they got from our customers. The drink driving rates would be in line with any rural place in the country I would imagine, the gardai put a big emphasis on the problem here.

I understand that your post was slagging but it's just when I see the RTA figures being mentioned, it's accepted by the experts that the number of people killed here is no higher than similar populated counties, as I said its just highr profile cases.

I wasn't getting upset by the way, just standing up for the county where I've been all my life. It's a great place that could be exploited further if a proper road and rail system was put in.

Local-womanizer wrote: »

I wouldn't use Dublin to compare though, major motorway, more public transport etc etc. if you are ever in Donegal, you will see the state if national roads, especially after winter, so you can imagine what the B roads are like!

Look at say Cork, very similar to Donegal ( apart from the accent!) and the road fatalities are very similar. It's a matter of fact people in these counties are more or less completely dependent on cars to get around as there is a lack of public transport. I think Donegal is probably the only county in the republic without a train station, I could be wrong on that.

On the dole, it is very strict in Donegal in the past few years. They are making a big point of targeting people defrauding the social welfare. It's also unfortunate that the system is left open to abuse and people will abuse it.

Can I ask where in Donegal you went on holiday? I know some people have that attitude up here but when push comes to shove its only big talk. I worked in a pub that was out of the town so to speak and the taxi drivers loved us for the business they got from our customers. The drink driving rates would be in line with any rural place in the country I would imagine, the gardai put a big emphasis on the problem here.

I understand that your post was slagging but it's just when I see the RTA figures being mentioned, it's accepted by the experts that the number of people killed here is no higher than similar populated counties, as I said its just highr profile cases.

I wasn't getting upset by the way, just standing up for the county where I've been all my life. It's a great place that could be exploited further if a proper road and rail system was put in.

understandable totally - i would do the same in a heart beat
but facts are facts - it does not have the reputation it has for no reason
its not like everyone just decided to pick on the place
i come from dublin and the abuse it gets on boards is horrendous , i will ALWAYS pick someone up on something that is not based in fact

but.......... dont care how it is spun - roads excuse or not , Donegal has a bad rep on the roads for a reason , and if the roads are so bad , why dont people just slow down for the conditions

it is widely known that speed is a major factor in most road collisions , and as you have said dublin has plenty of good wide roads - this in turn makes people drive FASTER , and with a huge number of people using them it should make dublin have a huge number of deaths compared to donegal , but it does not

in fact Dublin is now the safest capital city in Europe to drive in ,
so in fact i would go so far as to say its driver attitude in dublin is just better than in donegal - as i said , proud of the fact that they can do what they want attitude - and it was not one place in the county , i traveled the entire coast line and the islands - and for the most part the attitude was the same

in fact some voice pity on me for living in Dublin BECAUSE i could not rally and drink and drive - ( not to say Dublin does not have its fair share of these organ donors ) but it does look like more are up in the north west

perhaps with all the young folk leaving it will have a direct affect on the road death figures in the future

and ill say it here and now - fair ball for sticking up for the place you love , i love it also , hence why i holiday there - but still , the place is a death trap on the roads

dj jarvis wrote: »

understandable totally - i would do the same in a heart beat
but facts are facts - it does not have the reputation it has for no reason
its not like everyone just decided to pick on the place
i come from dublin and the abuse it gets on boards is horrendous , i will ALWAYS pick someone up on something that is not based in fact

but.......... dont care how it is spun - roads excuse or not , Donegal has a bad rep on the roads for a reason , and if the roads are so bad , why dont people just slow down for the conditions

it is widely known that speed is a major factor in most road collisions , and as you have said dublin has plenty of good wide roads - this in turn makes people drive FASTER , and with a huge number of people using them it should make dublin have a huge number of deaths compared to donegal , but it does not

in fact Dublin is now the safest capital city in Europe to drive in ,
so in fact i would go so far as to say its driver attitude in dublin is just better than in donegal - as i said , proud of the fact that they can do what they want attitude - and it was not one place in the county , i traveled the entire coast line and the islands - and for the most part the attitude was the same

in fact some voice pity on me for living in Dublin BECAUSE i could not rally and drink and drive - ( not to say Dublin does not have its fair share of these organ donors ) but it does look like more are up in the north west

perhaps with all the young folk leaving it will have a direct affect on the road death figures in the future

and ill say it here and now - fair ball for sticking up for the place you love , i love it also , hence why i holiday there - but still , the place is a death trap on the roads

A lot of the abuse Dublin gets is unwarranted, in actually like Dublin!

With regards the road deaths though, and sorry that I keep going back to it, but it is a mixture of bad roads and driver attitude without a doubt. But you have to take into account the dependency on private transport up here as well. I know that motorway speeds are higher but they are inherently safer to travel on, eg being the autobahn. I think that in 2010 Donegal had 19 road fatalities and Cork 21. It's not fair to just blame speed though, other factors have to be taking into account.

I won't deny we have our fair share of idiots up here, but then again so does any where in Ireland!

Ps the islands are mad anyway! :P

Local-womanizer wrote: »

A lot of the abuse Dublin gets is unwarranted, in actually like Dublin!

With regards the road deaths though, and sorry that I keep going back to it, but it is a mixture of bad roads and driver attitude without a doubt. But you have to take into account the dependency on private transport up here as well. I know that motorway speeds are higher but they are inherently safer to travel on, eg being the autobahn. I think that in 2010 Donegal had 19 road fatalities and Cork 21. It's not fair to just blame speed though, other factors have to be taking into account.

I won't deny we have our fair share of idiots up here, but then again so does any where in Ireland!

Ps the islands are mad anyway! :P

have to agree with you on that one :-)
we arrived on one of the islands to be greeted by a 20 year old vw passat with a huge hole from rust in the bonnet , dutch registered and had a pen draw sign in the cracked windscreen marked " taxi "

later on in one of the pubs , got the shout that the cops were on the ferry , i have never seen roads clear as quick in my life !!! ( not that there was much on them TBH )
have to say loved every minute of it and will be back