The Rebellion will begin in Donegal.

Mint Sauce

Isolated from the rest of the country geographically and politically barr a few mile strip of land in Leitrim. No or little infrastructure connecting it to the rest of the country, and more so now with a new cross boarder road link scrapped. People having to travel many hours for life saving cancer treatment, with a good few years before a new centre opens in Derry.

That is just to name a few examples that people of Donegal are sick of. Is it any wonder that yet again, its two constituencies have rejected another consitution change.

The Goats Don't Shave song does ring true sometimes.

super_furry

Or we could just swap them for one of the six counties.

4zn76tysfajdxp

irish-stew wrote: »

The Goats Don't Shave song does ring true sometimes.

It does, they really don't.

mattjack

There's something beyond Leitrim ?

dlofnep

super_furry wrote: »

Or we could just swap them for one of the six counties.

Or we could just keep them all, and improve investment in Donegal. The decisions taken by the Government will cost people their lives. If that's not something to get up and shout about, I don't know what is.

BobbyPropane

Shame Donegal and the other border counties were forgotten in the good times , Bertie probably didn't know it was in the republic

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6py-JbDHgUc

super_furry

Jade Dry Tequila wrote: »

It does, they really don't.

*ahem* http://www.caprikodacroft.com/RemShaved.JPG

The_Kew_Tour

Not a fan of the place. Let it burn!

seven_eleven

The only thing I know about Donegal is its full of little wannabe boyracer shíts.

T-K-O

Where?

wnolan1992

Don't like Donegal. Bit dull.

There was a gas shortage once and a flock of seagulls... that's about it.

fasttalkerchat

BobbyPropane wrote: »

Shame Donegal and the other border counties were forgotten in the good times , Bertie probably didn't know it was in the republic

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6py-JbDHgUc

The stuff of sketch shows!

I know that people on the islands paid little or no taxes because they had much less services, was it the same in Donegal?

Spiritual

They won the football.

Hulk Hands

irish-stew wrote: »

Isolated from the rest of the country geographically and politically barr a few mile strip of land in Leitrim.

And the fairly big border with Sligo?

super_furry

Hulk Hands wrote: »

And the fairly big border with Sligo?

Ssssshhhh! Sligo aren't supposed to know that's there! They'll go mental if they find out.

Local-womanizer

seven_eleven wrote: »

The only thing I know about Donegal is its full of little wannabe boyracer shíts.

Not anymore, the recession took care of that.

The levels of emigration are pretty high here, we have a serious lack of services compared to the rest of the country, and still some folk down the country ask me is it not difficult changing to the euro every time I come down south!

For such a big population you would think the government would try and keep the Donegal folk happy, but even Mary Coughlan done sweet fcuk all for her own county.

For all the abuse he gets about his crap music, Daniel O'Donnell has done more for the county than most politicians!

Boombastic

Hulk Hands wrote: »

And the fairly big border with Sligo?

we cut away sligo from the mainland a few years back, you must have missed the email about it.

View

So long as they pay for the rebellion out of their Household Charges, I don't mind - just don't expect the rest of us to send them money to pay for it. :-)

squod

Up Muff

mikom

Jimmy's winning matches
Jimmy's votin' NO,
Jimmy's bringing rebels back to Donegal again!

Teagwee

Hulk Hands wrote: »

And the fairly big border with Sligo?

Border between Donegal and Sligo - news to me!

seven_eleven

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Not anymore, the recession took care of that.

Im actually still curious as to what the outcome of that report on the crash that killed 7 (or was it 8) people a few years ago? I asked on the donegal forum but it was locked and hushed away as if it was something never to be talked about again :rolleyes:

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The levels of emigration are pretty high here, we have a serious lack of services compared to the rest of the country,

What is it like in terms of emergency services? How long would the wait for an ambulance be etc?

and still some folk down the country ask me is it not difficult changing to the euro every time I come down south!

I presume they're just being really ignorant, or am I the ignorant one and you actually dont use euro? :eek:

SEPT 23 1989

United Kingdom of Great Britain,Northern Ireland and Donegal has a nice ring to it

DEFTLEFTHAND

The gave the world one of the great guitarmen Rory Gallagher who was born in Ballyshannon, however they also produced Daniel O'Donnell. :pac:

Witcher

Let the North take Donegal and we'll have Fermanagh...if only for the bigger land border...Donegal is basically a peninsula:pac:

Rasheed

seven_eleven wrote: »

Im actually still curious as to what the outcome of that report on the crash that killed 7 (or was it 8) people a few years ago? I asked on the donegal forum but it was locked and hushed away as if it was something never to be talked about again :rolleyes:
:

And this matters to you because.....???

Local-womanizer

seven_eleven wrote: »

Im actually still curious as to what the outcome of that report on the crash that killed 7 (or was it 8) people a few years ago? I asked on the donegal forum but it was locked and hushed away as if it was something never to be talked about again :rolleyes:

What is it like in terms of emergency services? How long would the wait for an ambulance be etc?





I presume they're just being really ignorant, or am I the ignorant one and you actually dont use euro? :eek:[/Quote]

That terrible accident was probably still being investigated and handled in a tribunal so that's more than likely why the thread was closed. It happens in here about high profile cases all the time.

A jogger was hit by a car about a mile(if even) away from letterkenny general hospital last month. It took 45 minutes for an ambulance to arrive on scene as the 2 ambulance crews from LGH hospital were on a call. Unacceptable, and if it happened in say Dublin,limerick or even Sligo there would be uproar. The junior health minister tried to lie about the time saying it only took the ambulance 15 minutes, a journey of around 60 kilometres!

How anybody in Ireland under the age of 12 could think we are a part of Northern Ireland is beyond me!

starviewadams

After Donegal were finished playing one of their GAA type matches in Croke Park during the summer,a group of their drunken fans kept shouting ''No Surrender'' when they were beside me in the queue at a chipper on Dorset Street.So that's what they were on about!

Siuin

Anyone talking about wanting to 'swap' Donegal has obviously never visited the place. My dad's from Donegal and the scenery is absolutely beautiful. I'd love to live there, only as the OP said the services are shocking.

Witcher

Siuin wrote: »

Anyone talking about wanting to 'swap' Donegal has obviously never visited the place. My dad's from Donegal and the scenery is absolutely beautiful. I'd love to live there, only as the OP said the services are shocking.

Every county in Ireland is beautiful...isn't a great argument in fairness:pac:

Shryke

I'm in Galway and it does take the Donegal folk obscene amounts of time to get up and down. It's pretty shocking really.
There too busy drink driving and working on keeping their accents silly to start a rebellion though.

Local-womanizer

Shryke wrote: »

I'm in Galway and it does take the Donegal folk obscene amounts of time to get up and down. It's pretty shocking really.
There too busy drink driving and working on keeping their accents silly to start a rebellion though.

You mean keeping our accents sexy? We don't have to work on it though.

Shryke

Local-womanizer wrote: »

You mean keeping our accents sexy? We don't have to work on it though.

I love that you wouldn't bother to refute the drink driving.

Local-womanizer

Shryke wrote: »

I love that you wouldn't bother to refute the drink driving.

There are more important things, like sexy accents!

Fr D Maugire

Hulk Hands wrote: »

And the fairly big border with Sligo?

Donegal does not have a border with Sligo. Holy crap and people think Americans are clueless about things.

The One Who Knocks

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Don't like Donegal. Bit dull.

There was a gas shortage once and a flock of seagulls... that's about it.

It's not that bad....once I saw a goat!

Fr D Maugire

Blay wrote: »

Every county in Ireland is beautiful...isn't a great argument in fairness:pac:

But some are more beautiful than others and Donegal is right up there at the top of the list.

Witcher

Fr D Maugire wrote: »

But some are more beautiful than others and Donegal is right up there at the top of the list.

Right up there at the top of the country too..all out on its own..touching Leitrim...place can't catch a break:pac:

Can see all the Donegal natives getting riled up already...the pikes and pitchforks will be out next:pac:

LivelineDipso

they destroyed their beautiful scenery with thousands of one off houses in ribbon developments while letting their towns die a death. Donegal "planning" was centred around creating the worst possible sustainable social and economic model possible.

Only yourselves to blame for that.

Fr D Maugire

LivelineDipso wrote: »

they destroyed their beautiful scenery with thousands of one off houses in ribbon developments while letting their towns die a death. Donegal "planning" was centred around creating the worst possible sustainable social and economic model possible.

Only yourselves to blame for that.

Now that I would agree with, the planning is horrible. Some of the amazing places people have been allowed to build houses is shocking.

dj jarvis

just a quick FYI

the services in ALL of the republic of Ireland are in rag order - not just you lot up top.

and all this guff of " everything is in Dublin cork and Galway " is just pointless.
they are the center of population for the republic and that is why more services are close to these locations - no other reason.

In saying that the northwest SHOULD have decent services for the population living in it - but so should the rest of us.

So a sparsely populated county with no infrastructure , little natural resources that are readily available and no young people want to rebel ?

good luck with that

And the young of ALL the country have left the place a ghost town - not just the north west - but sure typical Irish local ****e - only care for the county and town , f2ck the rest of ya

well that has been working out great for us so far.

if Donegal wants independence from the rest of the Republic, then best of luck to you , at least then the road death , drink driving and dole fraud rates for the rest of our glorious republic will plummet like a lead balloon
instantly make life a little more bearable , and the brucey bonus is we still get to hear the sexy accent and jaw dropping views but just dont have to pay for it


Viva la revolution Donegal :eek:

Local-womanizer

dj jarvis wrote: »

just a quick FYI

the services in ALL of the republic of Ireland are in rag order - not just you lot up top.

and all this guff of " everything is in Dublin cork and Galway " is just pointless.
they are the center of population for the republic and that is why more services are close to these locations - no other reason.

In saying that the northwest SHOULD have decent services for the population living in it - but so should the rest of us.

So a sparsely populated county with no infrastructure , little natural resources that are readily available and no young people want to rebel ?

good luck with that

And the young of ALL the country have left the place a ghost town - not just the north west - but sure typical Irish local ****e - only care for the county and town , f2ck the rest of ya

well that has been working out great for us so far.

if Donegal wants independence from the rest of the Republic, then best of luck to you , at least then the road death , drink driving and dole fraud rates for the rest of our glorious republic will plummet like a lead balloon
instantly make life a little more bearable , and the brucey bonus is we still get to hear the sexy accent and jaw dropping views but just dont have to pay for it


Viva la revolution Donegal :eek:

I hate this crap about the high number of people killed on Donegal roads. Nearly every statistic you find on the figures, Donegal is basically level with other similar populated counties, cork and limerick.

Also the state of the roads are a big factor in road fatalities.

It's just unfortunate Donegal has some high profile cases.

And prove your comment about the Dole fraud please and the drink driving.

keith16

irish-stew wrote: »

The Goats Don't Shave song does ring true sometimes.

I love that song. Reminds me of goats.

wendell borton

LivelineDipso wrote: »

they destroyed their beautiful scenery with thousands of one off houses in ribbon developments while letting their towns die a death. Donegal "planning" was centred around creating the worst possible sustainable social and economic model possible.

Only yourselves to blame for that.

Along with the rest of the country in fairness.

Death and Taxes

Isn't Donegal part of Scotland?:D:D:D




If it isn't can we pay them to take it off our hands?

Cossax

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Not anymore, the recession took care of that.

The levels of emigration are pretty high here, we have a serious lack of services compared to the rest of the country, and still some folk down the country ask me is it not difficult changing to the euro every time I come down south!

For such a big population you would think the government would try and keep the Donegal folk happy, but even Mary Coughlan done sweet fcuk all for her own county.

For all the abuse he gets about his crap music, Daniel O'Donnell has done more for the county than most politicians!

They do a f**k load for you, you're the most heavily subsidised county in the country - you get a free present of over €2500 per man, woman and child from the residents of Kildare, Dublin, Meath and Wicklow.

dj jarvis

Local-womanizer wrote: »

I hate this crap about the high number of people killed on Donegal roads. Nearly every statistic you find on the figures, Donegal is basically level with other similar populated counties, cork and limerick.

Also the state of the roads are a big factor in road fatalities.

It's just unfortunate Donegal has some high profile cases.

And prove your comment about the Dole fraud please and the drink driving.

road deaths in donegal are higher than dublin (2010 figures) , and almost everywhere else in Ireland , donegal has a population on 160,00 apx and 19 dead , dublin has 1,600,000 and has 21 dead
so that would make the road death ratio of nearly 10/1 more in donegal than the most populated county in ireland - so its all down to the roads is it ?

link : http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Road-Safety/Our-Research/Deaths-injuries-on-Irish-roads/

as for dole fraud , it is well know that there is a major problem with dole fraud in the boarder area ( not with just residents of the ROI it has to be said )
google the life out of it if you want - volumes of print media reports on it
so much so this web page is up on the DSW site
http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Press/PressReleases/2009/Pages/pr060309.aspx

as for drink driving i can find any up to date figures , but older ones do show per head of population there is more arrests in Donegal ,
so to be getting upset with what is common knowledge of the county is a bit sensitive is it not ?

Funny , but anytime i have been to Donegal on holiday , the locals gush with pride on how the place is lawless and " like the wild west " , but yet when its mentioned , they suddenly go mad
can't have it both ways

and if you read my post it was mostly mirth and slagging , but also praising the county - so please dont be getting so upset

suppose the truth hurts

and again VIVA LA REVALUATION - hope it goes well for ya all

mikemac1

Donegal accent *swoon*

LivelineDipso wrote: »

they destroyed their beautiful scenery with thousands of one off houses in ribbon developments while letting their towns die a death. Donegal "planning" was centred around creating the worst possible sustainable social and economic model possible.

Only yourselves to blame for that.

So did the rest of Ireland,in particular Clare

keith16

Cossax wrote: »

They do a f**k load for you, you're the most heavily subsidised county in the country - you get a free present of over €2500 per man, woman and child from the residents of Kildare, Dublin, Meath and Wicklow.

what are you on about

Local-womanizer

dj jarvis wrote: »

road deaths in donegal are higher than dublin (2010 figures) , and almost everywhere else in Ireland , donegal has a population on 160,00 apx and 19 dead , dublin has 1,600,000 and has 21 dead
so that would make the road death ratio of nearly 10/1 more in donegal than the most populated county in ireland - so its all down to the roads is it ?

link : http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Road-Safety/Our-Research/Deaths-injuries-on-Irish-roads/

as for dole fraud , it is well know that there is a major problem with dole fraud in the boarder area ( not with just residents of the ROI it has to be said )
google the life out of it if you want - volumes of print media reports on it
so much so this web page is up on the DSW site
http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Press/PressReleases/2009/Pages/pr060309.aspx

as for drink driving i can find any up to date figures , but older ones do show per head of population there is more arrests in Donegal ,
so to be getting upset with what is common knowledge of the county is a bit sensitive is it not ?

Funny , but anytime i have been to Donegal on holiday , the locals gush with pride on how the place is lawless and " like the wild west " , but yet when its mentioned , they suddenly go mad
can't have it both ways

and if you read my post it was mostly mirth and slagging , but also praising the county - so please dont be getting so upset

suppose the truth hurts

and again VIVA LA REVALUATION - hope it goes well for ya all

I wouldn't use Dublin to compare though, major motorway, more public transport etc etc. if you are ever in Donegal, you will see the state if national roads, especially after winter, so you can imagine what the B roads are like!

Look at say Cork, very similar to Donegal ( apart from the accent!) and the road fatalities are very similar. It's a matter of fact people in these counties are more or less completely dependent on cars to get around as there is a lack of public transport. I think Donegal is probably the only county in the republic without a train station, I could be wrong on that.

On the dole, it is very strict in Donegal in the past few years. They are making a big point of targeting people defrauding the social welfare. It's also unfortunate that the system is left open to abuse and people will abuse it.

Can I ask where in Donegal you went on holiday? I know some people have that attitude up here but when push comes to shove its only big talk. I worked in a pub that was out of the town so to speak and the taxi drivers loved us for the business they got from our customers. The drink driving rates would be in line with any rural place in the country I would imagine, the gardai put a big emphasis on the problem here.

I understand that your post was slagging but it's just when I see the RTA figures being mentioned, it's accepted by the experts that the number of people killed here is no higher than similar populated counties, as I said its just highr profile cases.

I wasn't getting upset by the way, just standing up for the county where I've been all my life. It's a great place that could be exploited further if a proper road and rail system was put in.

Iwasfrozen

Hulk Hands wrote: »

And the fairly big border with Sligo?

Where?