Pronounciation

dxhound2005 wrote: »

All -one endings are not pronounced the same. You have bone and cone but then done and gone. So why should scone not be pronounced to rhyme with gone?

Or done?

Most -one endings are pronounced -own. Scone is one (own :pac:) of these.

pickarooney wrote: »

More like Van 'Khoch'

That's it. But the 'Kh' is very difficult to pronounce for English speakers.

The Dutch seem to be constantly clearing their throats.

So I'm not sure what the accepted English pronunciation is.

But it most definitely is not Van Goff.

I hate how Dubs make 2 syllables out of 1 in words like "please" - "Packe' a Johnny Bleeoo pleyase".

The constant interchanging of T and TH baffles me. Pronouncing the h in Thomas and Thai, not pronouncing it anywhere else in words like "Tree, Tird" etc. and then adding one to words like taught. "I tink" and "I thaught", it's bizarre!

And the plural of you is you. Not yiz or yous or anything else ending in with s and it's certainly not YE. "All a ye"... I had an argument with a mate once who was convinced this was in the dictionary.

The King of Moo wrote: »

What's wrong with "ye?" Not only is it incredibly common all over Ireland, but it's also a very useful word. The lack of a different plural form of "you" is a curious deficiency in this great language not found in most others. It's very useful to have distinct singular and plural words to make it clear what one means.

A separate plural form doesn't exist in the English language and ye is already recognised everywhere else that speaks English as an old, archaic form of the would you (in both forms). I won't go into the whole thorn problem (þ). It's not even obvious what you are on about when you use it - it took me a while (as someone who's studied linguistics at Uni) to figure out the usage and I can't imagine what non-English-speakers think. I used to wonder why people were suddenly talking like Shakespeare. And it's not all over Ireland either - I'm from the north and it was completely new to me when I moved to Dublin.

The King of Moo wrote: »

What's wrong with "ye?" Not only is it incredibly common all over Ireland, but it's also a very useful word. The lack of a different plural form of "you" is a curious deficiency in this great language not found in most others. It's very useful to have distinct singular and plural words to make it clear what one means.

'Ye' as a second person plural is fine, as long as it's not uttered by a Dubliner, that would be criminally fraudulent.
Personally I'm not overly fond of the way our rural brothers and sisters lean into it yeeeeeee boys..yuck.

bluewolf wrote: »

i always say pray-leen
but i'm told it should be praw-leen

for praline

It's neither, it's prah-leen.
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/pronunciation/british/praline
Pray-leen and Praw-leen are American pronunciations. I think Praw-leen sounds awwwwwfully pretentious tbh

coolhull wrote: »

Lidl... Is it Lee-del, Lye-dell or Liddel?

"Leedel" is roughly the original German pronunciation, but the phonetic pronunciation (by English standards) is common enough to also be quite acceptable. I may be repeating myself from a few posts ago, this feels awfully familiar.

Promac wrote: »

A separate plural form doesn't exist in the English language and ye is already recognised everywhere else that speaks English as an old, archaic form of the would you (in both forms). I won't go into the whole thorn problem (þ). It's not even obvious what you are on about when you use it - it took me a while (as someone who's studied linguistics at Uni) to figure out the usage and I can't imagine what non-English-speakers think. I used to wonder why people were suddenly talking like Shakespeare. And it's not all over Ireland either - I'm from the north and it was completely new to me when I moved to Dublin.

Which is why it's handy. And I think it's usually very clear that it's being directed at a group of people, even if someone had never heard the word before. I certainly think it's clearer than just using "you," which is why most other modern languages have separate words for the singular and plural form of the second person.
It might not have been used much in the North, but it's always been a normal part of Hiberno-English and I hear it all the time from people from all over the country.
My English-language students also find it very useful and usually tell me how they like the word, because "you" can be very confusing for them.

Drives me absolutely mad when people say tremenjuss instead of tremenDous. Its a D people

And also when people down the west pronounce the surname Walsh as Welsh. Don't know why is irritates me so much

And I also say scon, and not scoan, and wont be changing that any time soon

ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »

Drives me absolutely mad when people say tremenjuss instead of tremenDous. Its a D people

Pendulous!

Incredulous!!

Schedule!!!

HugoBradyBrown wrote: »

Or Mr Noonan with his 'billons' and 'millons' and 'Itallans".

And he a schoolteacher and all!

Hugo Brady Brown

I know - he can't pronounce 'yu'

I hate when Irish people talk about Eyetalians

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Some Irish placenames are traps for the unfamiliar English visitor.

Heard clangers like 'Ball Lina', 'At Henry' and 'At Hee'.

Yeah I Mullingar Pronounced

Mullinger

How would you pronounce "je t'adore"?

I heard of an Irish guy who pulled a French chick in Paris and took her up to his room. Looking at her passionately in the eyes he said "je t'adore", to which she replied: "Shut it yourself, you fcuking lazy Irish cnut!":):)

Seeing as how he nearly owns us, the least we could do is pronounce Olli Rehn's surname correctly. It rhymes with "rain" rather than "wren" (a small bird).

And Nokia isn't pronounced "no-key-a", either.

The King of Moo wrote: »

Pendulous!

Incredulous!!

Schedule!!!

All have a U directly after the D, so that pronunciation is acceptable. No excuse for pronouncing tremendous with a J unless you're a pretentious arse